Labour isn't working - Thread 15

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Mmm, and good luck building a house with all the builders, plumbers and electricians hitting -not a worker- tax threshold by summer.

Sounds plausible.

They deliberately refused to specify what a working person was in the election campaign. If that definition is fluid, they can pretend that they haven't broken their manifesto pledges on tax.

Labour don't seem to understand that it is their lies and obfuscation causing their fall from grace.

Oooh, he’s beautiful! I work in racing so am surrounded by Thoroughbreds, they are the most gorgeous creatures and so incredibly willing to try and please. I am however not stupid enough to ever try and ride one! I rode for years (regular horses) but do not have the bottle to be zipping up the gallops onboard 500kg of muscle travelling at 35mph+

They are going to be gathering up Lib Dems too because some members are losing their shit over the fact the party is now following the Supreme Court ruling over who actually counts as women for their quotas.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5434628-lib-dem-internal-elections-women-only-posts?reply=148126360

If I never hear the phrase "working people" again I'll be delighted. It was coined to gaslight traditional Labour voters and those too disillusioned with the Conservatives to employ critical thinking, and here we are - demoralised and fearful, while watching a bunch of Marxists destroy the country and our way of life.

Our only hope is once they're out, some of their most destructive laws will be capable of being repealed.

Fucking hell. That's a shit choice to have to make! 😩

Same and “inherited”. I’d get them out not to hear that again.

That's bonkers. The only reason I earn more than that is because I, ummmmm, work! 🤯

Such an insane definition, if that's what they choose to run with.

If they do decide that's the batshit plan, I'd imagine the line will be drawn at higher rate tax payers. But who knows. 🤷‍♀️ Not like £45k is fucking rolling in it!

Faster and further is my bete noir

They really are completely batshit.

I'm not a HRT payer but my husband is. He works 60+ hours a week, is always tired and stressed. They always go for HRT payers, even the Conservatives did. Removing CB from single income households on 60K. I read on MN threads that people on 60K get UC. How the hell?
I've told my husband not to ever earn 100K as it won't be worth the hassle.
They'll probably cut pension relief for HRT payers too. A double whammy. Just means that any future pay rises are wiped out for years. Then of course, the cost of living and everyone's just standing still or becoming worse off.
Anyway, we would love to give up work or go part time but can't until this mortgage is paid off. I knew labour would go for HRT payers. They were bound too.
Why aren't they cutting benefits?

We need fundamental reforms we have so many systems killing incentives. Paul Johnson’s times article makes it clear only raising tax on basic rate tax payers will raise significant amounts now.

the punishing of the higher rate tax payers is simply symbolic and for rhetoric and posturing purposes.

yes, I do blame the conservatives for ducking reforms and raising taxes for years - the failure of the centre ground didn’t come from nowhere, Cameron had a coalition at first, Brexit was hugely divisive, every govt has been just getting by for a long time.

We're both HRT payers - and have spent the last year mentally adopting the brace position because we have nowhere to hide.

RIP Prunella Scales.

Cue repeats of Fawlty Towers heavily-edited to remove the hurty words.

I love Fawlty Towers. I have fond nostalgia of being a kid in those days. Probably seeing it through rose tinted specs, but in my opinion they were better times.

I used to be a HRT payer and then went part time. Then I became self employed and had periods of not earning well. As a self employed person, I make it my duty to pay as little tax as possible. My husband is PAYE and so caught by the short and curlies.

You're right - they were better times on so many levels.

Yes must remove the hurty words. Meanwhile the whole point of the show is lost and no longer funny.
'You cloth earred bint' springs to mind.
I remember Major had a few witty one liners too! 🤣

I love this image on the Telegraph, she looks great

They have the best photos on the app generally

What a lovely tribute from her family. I feel they were better times too.

'Don't mention the war!'

That was brilliant. That was the same one as him being in hospital. That was so funny. God I miss those days. 40 years and everything changed for the worst. My kids often tell me they wish they could have been young when I was. I tell them that at least they're not 53 now! 😂

Mrs Richards and the race horse called Dragonfly. That was brilliant too! 🤣
Right I need to go and do some work...

I was chatting to a fellow Gen X client the other day and saying that I was sad for my kids that they'd never have an equivalent time to the 90s for us. It was such an amazing decade and there won't be anything which feels like that again.

Totally agree with you. I was a 90s raver. Fantastic times!