Labour isn't working - Thread 13

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Come on Reeves, do it - bring the entire rotten edifice down on 26th November.

Only then, can we start the process of you and your lot getting the boot.

The UK’s gross domestic product (GDP) expanded by 0.1pc during August, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS), marking only a mild recovery from July’s downwardly revised to a 0.1pc contraction.

More blame elsewhere incoming.

Useless lot.

0.1% down and then 0.1% up? Didn't Reeves forecast 2% growth for '25?

So, that's what now... April -0.3%, May -0.1%, June 0.4%, July -0.1, August 0.1%

So, I'm not an economist but that looks like the sum total of fuck all growth so far. So where's the magical 2% coming, y'know, the fruit of taking out another whopping fucking loan, a catalyst for growth coming from?

if If I had to guess, Labour are banking on all the investment for defence etc resulting in growth soon. They’ve borrowed stacks for investment…

Oh and interest rate cuts could be on table again if stock market tanks and recession looms…

I think the odds of stagflation have dramatically shortened.

And with inflation the highest within the G7.

Its a nasty cocktail.

Which they will sell as a positive 🙄

The markets are pricing a 50 bps cut in the US by year end.

Bailey will naturally help his mates in Labour.

Yes I think you're right, but it isn't helping when the broader economy is stuttering.
We're seeing this in construction too. Some areas are doing better, around energy etc because of capital investment. But it isn't filtering through so other areas (mine) are dead, because other investment just isn't there.
The last time we saw some growth in construction, it wasn't new project starts, it was repairs.

Ha ikr, the further and faster jar that only Reeves and Starmer know about.

Just reading the latest on this thread. Labour are now only an emetic to me. Particularly Reeves with her new rictus grin in photos (I will not cry again look I’m happy etc). The fake grin reminds me of meghan markle photos. In the worst possible way - a fixed, unnatural smile / grimace. Hiding the utter crap which lies behind. 🤮 Some might say like Dorian Gray. But well, there’s no beauty involved.

And on the benefits issue. About 15yrs ago I finished a contract (self employed at the time). Well the contract finished but I couldn’t find another for a while. So was advised by friends etc to get JSA (or whatever it was called then). So I called them up to sort it out (using the phone to talk to a real person - different times!), and they told me I wasn’t ‘entitled’ to anything. But I’ve worked and paid tax for many years, since I was 18 in fact.. You’re still not eligible. But the people who’ve just turned up to the uk and paid no tax Are eligible? Yes. 😶

That’s a shortened version. That was my first experience of the blatant con that is being a high tax payer in the uk.

So, @twistyizzy or anyone, if you’ve got adhd and are eligible to claim pip for it - I say do so. Everyone else is, why shouldn’t you. I’d never have said that before. But now, well thanks Labour. 👏🏻

*I actually think pip should only be for physically disabled people. Or people that cannot work due to their disability (be it physical and or mental). But thems are not the rules, so take advantage, why not.

This is data for UC ie highest ever at 7.7 million as of April 25

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1107124/uk-number-of-people-on-universal-credit/

Rathbones forecast a GBP 100 bn exodus should Labour introduce a wealth tax.

FT et al

Thanks for sharing this AR.

Caerphilly bi-election polling

Survation poll for @CamlasCymru makes it a two horse race between Reform and Plaid:

Reform - 41.61%
Plaid Cymru - 38.29%
Labour - 12.37%
Conservative - 3.65%
Liberal Democrat - 1.35%
Green Party - 2.72%

Bear in mind Labour previously had an 18 point majority here and 46% of the vote.

Excellent 😁
I don't care who wins, as long as Labour lose.

Liz SR was ribbing Starmer on this yesterday, asking why he hadn't visited to help with the Labour campaign there 😂.

It's very easy to make voluntary extra payments to the government. You can even choose whether your contributions should be used to pay down borrowing or for general expenditure.

I pointed this out to someone who claimed to want to pay more tax on another thread. You never saw such rapid back-pedalling! S/he didn't mean her/him; s/he meant that s/he thought everyone else should.

Apparently her/his contribution wouldn't be worth doing. As Voltaire said, every snowflake thinks he isn't responsible for the avalanche.

Nice drop. Well done those voters for showing what they think of Labour.

Ha ha yes they do that a lot.
Do loud virtue signalling that they are happy to pay tax yet when you explain that the mechanism is there, they back pedal furiously 😄

How to ensure Labour lose = send Starmer 🤣🤣

So, they've lost 34% of the voting population - in a little over a year?

Looks like it from the polling

Good. It helps when reading some Labour loyal posts on here.

Yep, seen that countless times on MN 😁