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user1473878824 · 04/10/2025 12:23

Soonenough · 04/10/2025 09:55

Foolish young men will be risk takers. I feel horrible for his family.

what a horrible comment. Perhaps google the story.

WrongFredSaid · 04/10/2025 12:23

nomas · 04/10/2025 11:03

He didn’t die as a result of the incident in Dubai, this was in the UK.

Immediate questions that come to mind:

  • will the IPC investigate whether the car chase was lawful or was disproportionate
  • If not lawful, the police have to answer to why they caused a dangerous situation
  • If lawful, the driver should be charged with manslaughter
  • If lawful, is this part of the reason of the reason the girl’s mother reported him, was she worried about her daughter being in dangerous cars
Edited

Seriously, read your post again - particularly the last bullet-point. Never before have I read such staggering shit that leaps to explain a mother’s action that results in a young black male being imprisoned as a means of keeping her daughter from getting into cars that might result in a police pursuit and the loss of life?

Read your post another time, and then read mine. Is this what you mean or are you being reckless / irresponsible in your attempt at critical thinking. Seriously, do better.

lebopbop · 04/10/2025 12:25

Soontobe60 · 04/10/2025 12:03

Don’t be ridiculous. She didn’t make the laws.

Wasn’t he 18 and the girl was a couple of months from turning 18?

She no reason to report it. No reason at all. Why would you??

HelpMeUnpickThis · 04/10/2025 12:26

Walkden · 04/10/2025 12:20

"I note you say nothing about the fact that the sex was consensual and that the girl faced no consequence.
The crime involved 2 individuals. Why did they not recall the girl to do some time then?"

Oh please. By Dubai law she was a minor....

@Walkden ok fine. By a matter of months by the way but ok.

Does that make you feel better he is dead now?
There was no coercion, no abuse, they were in a relationship.

Why would you come on this post about someone who has actually lost their life in a tragic way and a family that has suffered so much?

What does it do for you?

HelpMeUnpickThis · 04/10/2025 12:28

Lalaloope · 04/10/2025 12:23

I hate police chases! They put everyone's lives at risk, even if it isn't the criminal or whomever they're chasing. The perpetrators obviously don't care about their lives or anyone else's but the police should do better than make it easy for them to harm others.

The bystanders or even people minding their business inside their homes could have a car crashing into them because the police were chasing someone driving at a dangerous speed. It needs to stop! Find other ways to catch these people, not putting lives at risk, including passengers who may have nothing to do with the issue. Sometimes even children!

It's sad the passenger was the one who died. The driver should be held responsible as well as the police chasing him. Whatever the reason for the chase was, they caused his death!

My heart goes out to the family of the boy. He was very unlucky by making these two decisions towards the end of his life. Some people survived the same decisions but he didn't. How sad.

@Lalaloope the driver was arrested. Just to let you know, no snark.

Alideascope · 04/10/2025 12:29

Everythinghascrumbled · 04/10/2025 09:59

Why does it make you angry about the mother who reported him for something unrelated? She wasn’t driving the car ? This likely would have happened anyway ?

Really, you don't think imprisonment had any effect on his mental health?

If you're right that it would have happened anyway, do you not think it's a shame that he spent so much of the small time he should have had left with his family, suffering in a far-away jail instead?

Thebigonesgetaway · 04/10/2025 12:29

I’m with you op. This is such a tragic set of circumstances, and I also feel appalled at the mother who reported this boy to the Dubai authorities, a totally seperate incident to the car collision obvs, but still one that blighted is life. The girl was a few months younger than him, willingly had sex with him, and he of course it didn’t occur to him she was a few months younger so it was illegal in Dubai. If the female hadn’t wanted to have sex, that would have been a different story, but she did. The mother behaved appallingly and I hope she suffers knowing what she did,

Holluschickie · 04/10/2025 12:30

What a horrible tragedy from beginning to end!
His poor parents have been through so much.

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WolfingtonBear · 04/10/2025 12:31

HelpMeUnpickThis · 04/10/2025 12:26

@Walkden ok fine. By a matter of months by the way but ok.

Does that make you feel better he is dead now?
There was no coercion, no abuse, they were in a relationship.

Why would you come on this post about someone who has actually lost their life in a tragic way and a family that has suffered so much?

What does it do for you?

Why are facts considered to be cruel or abnormal now? “What does it do for you?” As though the poster is engaging in some kind of aberrant thrill seeking by simply stating a fact.

HelpMeUnpickThis · 04/10/2025 12:33

Thebigonesgetaway · 04/10/2025 12:29

I’m with you op. This is such a tragic set of circumstances, and I also feel appalled at the mother who reported this boy to the Dubai authorities, a totally seperate incident to the car collision obvs, but still one that blighted is life. The girl was a few months younger than him, willingly had sex with him, and he of course it didn’t occur to him she was a few months younger so it was illegal in Dubai. If the female hadn’t wanted to have sex, that would have been a different story, but she did. The mother behaved appallingly and I hope she suffers knowing what she did,

Thank you for your post.

Found this: Sorry it's a Daily Fail link:

"Marcus’s ordeal began in late August when the girl's mother – who MailOnline isn’t naming – discovered birth control pills in her daughter’s luggage when they returned home from a luxury break in the Gulf state."

The whole thing was so very unfair on the boy.

Walkden · 04/10/2025 12:33

"Does that make you feel better he is dead now?"

Ironic that you come on a thread where a young person has lost their life in a tragic incident/ accident.

Posters say how traumatising it must have been to be imprisoned and your response is the underage girl should have been imprisoned too?

Why would you come on this thread and post that. What does it do for you?

PinkyFlamingo · 04/10/2025 12:37

Muffinmam · 04/10/2025 10:59

How was she evil?

It’s not her fault that this young adult died.

No but it is her fault he got jailed for nothing in the last year of his life. Can't you imagine the effect they would have had on him?

IsThishmmmmm · 04/10/2025 12:37

How long did he spend in prison ?

Lndnmummy · 04/10/2025 12:39

inamarina · 04/10/2025 11:32

I agree with this. Surely, there was no need to report him for consensual sex with a peer?
Absolutely heartbreaking news, poor boy and his family.

She is racist and evil. I hope karma gets her. I really do.

HelpMeUnpickThis · 04/10/2025 12:39

WolfingtonBear · 04/10/2025 12:31

Why are facts considered to be cruel or abnormal now? “What does it do for you?” As though the poster is engaging in some kind of aberrant thrill seeking by simply stating a fact.

@WolfingtonBear I don't understand your post at all.

Facts can be facts and they are not cruel. Marcus served his time for his in a very harsh way.

We have little/no facts about the car accident so there is no need for horrible comments.

There has been so much misinformation on this thread:-

accusing him of being the driver (he was not), accusing him of being in with a bad crowd (how does anyone know this), someone even questioned why he was out of the house after coming out of jail, someone mentioned that he made a bad decision with the choice of company he got into the car with - with NO facts.

Let's not be selective when we want to use facts.

It's abhorrent (note: correct spelling of the word) to make aspersions about someone without a full understanding of what happened, in the FULL knowledge that black men are often racially profiled by the police and the Met police are known for being racist, that he might have some trauma around police after his experience in Dubai, that he was not the one driving and could not control the driver's actions, and most importantly of all - he is now dead. A family has lost a son.

Is that clearer for you?

nomas · 04/10/2025 12:40

HelpMeUnpickThis · 04/10/2025 12:17

@nomas

I note you say nothing about the fact that the sex was consensual and that the girl faced no consequence.

The crime involved 2 individuals. Why did they not recall the girl to do some time then?

Funny you can be pedantic about how many months he spent in prison when he has now actually died.

Some people on here are completely heartless.

Which part of it was a ‘crazy incarceration’ did you not understand?

The girl had left Dubai, so she could not be arrested.

Barso · 04/10/2025 12:40

Holluschickie · 04/10/2025 12:30

What a horrible tragedy from beginning to end!
His poor parents have been through so much.

Agreed, and I think this is all that needs to be said at this time, out of respect for this young man and his family.

Lndnmummy · 04/10/2025 12:43

lebopbop · 04/10/2025 12:25

Wasn’t he 18 and the girl was a couple of months from turning 18?

She no reason to report it. No reason at all. Why would you??

Because the daughter would have been shunned in her culture for having sex, let alone with a black man. So the mother fabricated a scenario in which Marcus committed a crime. What she should have done, is control her own child and ensured her own child lived according to the values and customs of her culture. Having failed to do so, she decided to go after someone else's child, a child who had done done no wrong according to norms and cultures he is from.

BrightBeaker · 04/10/2025 12:43

Would you be speaking with so much heartbreak for this 'poor boy' had he and his idiot mates sped away to escape the Police and during the high speed chase they caused ran over your family. People need to stop enforcing and excusing delincuency as if it is not their fault. Victimhood no. Rsponsibility yes. It's soft mothers like this that create kids like this with no respect for law or others.

Walkden · 04/10/2025 12:44

"It's abhorrent (note: correct spelling of the word) to make aspersions about someone without a full understanding of what happened"

Ironic that you do the same in your post. It's accepted that there are racial profiling issues with the Met we don't know if there were good reasons the car was being pulled over, whether the offices who made that decision did so knowing the drivers were black rather than discovered after the crash, or whether the vehicle pinged because of anpr flag, or if the police officers were themselves black.

Fair enough to say wait for facts and avoid speculation. But that goes both ways.

Lndnmummy · 04/10/2025 12:44

BrightBeaker · 04/10/2025 12:43

Would you be speaking with so much heartbreak for this 'poor boy' had he and his idiot mates sped away to escape the Police and during the high speed chase they caused ran over your family. People need to stop enforcing and excusing delincuency as if it is not their fault. Victimhood no. Rsponsibility yes. It's soft mothers like this that create kids like this with no respect for law or others.

With all due respect, I take it you and your children are white?

Lndnmummy · 04/10/2025 12:46

nomas · 04/10/2025 12:40

Which part of it was a ‘crazy incarceration’ did you not understand?

The girl had left Dubai, so she could not be arrested.

Funny that, innit

nomas · 04/10/2025 12:46

Repeated post, deleted.

OneFunBrickNewt · 04/10/2025 12:47

I gasped when I read this. I am so sad for him and his poor family.