Poor teen jailed in Dubai has died

[flyingsquirrelsagogo]

I’ve just seen this. How utterly heartbreaking for his parents.
it makes me even more angry about the vindictive mother that reported him.
Just so so sad.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-car-chase-crash-teenager-dead-tottenham-london-b1251170.html

The mother of the young girl acted in a cruel and vindictive manner .
Very wicked woman

At the end of the day, he broke the law of the country he was in and was punished for it.

Pull the other one

Even the harsh Dubai legal system has more compassion than posters like you - they at least pardoned him and freed him early. Why do you think they did that?

Let's be honest tho, when we go to different places on holidays we don't know all the laws do we, I bet these teens didn't even know that law

They released him after 6 months, not a year. He was pardoned, not exonerated.

I agree it was a crazy incarceration by UK standards. But when Dubai police receive a report or complaint, should they just ignore it because the defendant is British?

The mother was being unreasonable in asking the Dubai police to investigate this. She was angry at her daughter, she didn’t need to punish someone else!

Again, you don't know this, we have never had the mother's side of the story.

I'd be interested to know what circumstances you think could possibly justify her actions.

If she didn't approve of Marcus or his friends' hang out activities, and she wanted to separate them, then this was a sure fire way to do it. I don't condone it but I can't judge her without knowing the facts.

Marcus said he was looking forward to dating the girl in the UK, and the mum might be thinking that if she hadn't separated the couple, her daughter may have also been a passenger in that car.

I can absolutely imagine scenarios where I might disapprove and worry hugely about a relationship my teen daughter was in. I can see no scenario where I would find it reasonable to have her boyfriend imprisoned in Dubai for consensual sex though.

Look, if her daughter showed poor judgment in Dubai, then she’s going to continue to show poor judgement in the UK.

She can discipline her daughter without asking the local authorities to put a boy, whose only crime was consensual sex with a peer, in jail. It’s not reasonable and I don’t know why you are trying to defend that.

Im not really sure of the point of rehashing the whole Dubai underage sex debate. I don’t think anyone is going to change their opinions at this point. It was unfortunate for him that the girls mother complained but she was legally able to do so because he’d broken the law.

It’s is sad thst he has been killed, he had his whole life in front of him and a stupid decision by the driver ( to refuse to stop) is responsible. I don’t see what the mum has to do with it.

Wow, just wow.

That is ice cold.

Exactly this.

@nomas

Your posts are disgusting.

"If she didn't approve of Marcus or his friends' hang out activities"

You don't know this person. You have no idea what his friends or activities were.

Why would you cast aspersions on his character like this with NO evidence, especially when he has now sadly died.

Why don't you talk about the fact that the girl was found with birth control pills on her. That was a clear decision that she made - presumably because she wanted to be in the relationship but not get pregnant. Ie it was all consensual and the young lady was fully aware of the choices she made.

Why would you make assumptions like this on a public forum that the grieving parents might read?

Are you saying all these random, made up things because it is a young black boy?

But you also don't know the mum's side of the story. She is getting a lot of racist abuse and accusations on this thread of prizing 'virginity' and that she should have 'disciplined' her daughter. These are common racist tropes about Asian girls being under the control of their parents.

People need to check their own racism first. You can't fight racism by being racist.

And where is the racism, people here are saying the girl is Asian, and the boy who was driving the car in which Marcus tragically lost his life was Asian too.

Eave race aside. Your suggestion she got the boy jailed in Dubai because she didn’t want her daughter to see him anymore is horrible.

I didn't say that was why. I was asked for a possible circumstance, and I gave that as an example.

It was initially reported as 'forced' to the police, so there is some speculation in the media that there was a translation issue between the mum and the Dubai police.

If it was lost in translation, then it could have been a tragic misunderstanding and he need not have been arrested at all.

She was 3 months younger than him

The girl was at least 9 months younger - Marcus' legal team fudged/lied about the age gap, albeit by only 6 months or so. Marcus was 19 last January, the girl possibly 19 this month (his legal team indicated that her birthday was in October, although of course they may have fudged that as well).

Why don't you talk about the fact that the girl was found with birth control pills on her. That was a clear decision that she made - presumably because she wanted to be in the relationship but not get pregnant.

Or perhaps she used the morning-after pill?

Ok. Your belief that would be a possible reason which wouldn’t make her look as bad as racism. She was home when she reported it. I’m afraid translation isn’t an excise. She’d already made the decision to drop the poor lad in it for something illegal where they were but not something a British person should have cared about. Her daughter had birth control pills, so presumably it was something she wanted. I can’t think of a single reason to do it that doesn’t make her look absolutely awful.

Ignorance of the law is no excuse. People over here get angry when people from other countries break the law here. Why is breaking the law of the land "not something a British person should have cared about"?

In terms of their own daughter’s behaviour. It should have remained a private matter. It affected nobody in Dubai.

But he broke the law.

Plenty of young men die in car crashes all the time, the only thing notable about this one is that he had a widely reported previous error of judgment. Yes, it's horrible for his family. But the police aren't to blame, nor is the girl's mother.

So the mum, as well as being a vindictive racist was also clairvoyant?

How the hell would she know anything about who he hung out with in London? He was on holiday with his family staying in a Luxury apartment. For all she knew he was Nigerian royalty.