Poor teen jailed in Dubai has died

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I’ve just seen this. How utterly heartbreaking for his parents.
it makes me even more angry about the vindictive mother that reported him.
Just so so sad.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-car-chase-crash-teenager-dead-tottenham-london-b1251170.html

This mother was angry at her daughter for having premarital sex (and likely choice of partner). She should have directed her anger at her daughter (in a responsible way, not in an abusive one ofc), not sicced the UAE to intervene on a personal matter.

The Emiratis DID NOT spy on them or detect them doing anything illicit. They’d probably rather not have to deal with two foreigners doing haram things. But since a mother reported it, I guess they felt they should respond to her complaint.

Shameful on her part.

What the woman did was nasty, she knew what she was doing. I hope her Daughter has nothing to do with her. I wouldn't be friends with someone who did this either. I don't know how she can sleep at night.

Various posters hoping that the daughter despises her mother and is estranged from her, which is a bit weird.

I'm afraid I find it very challenging to disagree with this. Nowhere does@WeeGeeBored imply that the mother of the girlfriend is responsible for this young man's death, but it is undeniable that her calculated actions made in spite had markedly detrimental effects on his mental and physical wellbeing which would have had implications for the quality of life and the choices he took following his fortunate release from an Emirati prison.

I would question my Mother's morals if she tried to ruin a young man's life. I think the posters who are sticking up for her actions weird.

"I would question my Mother's morals if she tried to ruin a young man's life." So would I , although "ruining his life" is a bit dramatic- I wouldn't approve of it but I don't think I'd cut her off for ever. Wishing for a family breakup instead of rapprochement is just a bit sad. Ok, I don't know them, for all I know the mother could be a controlling monster who wants to micromanage her daughter and will be the bane of her existence forever, but we can't know that from one piece of information.

I know I would lose all respect for my mother in that situation

She was 3 months younger than him. That is hardly an adult taking advantage of a child. They didn't know it was illegal - surely that must count for something. It really is on the mum. She wanted a black boy to feel the full weight of the law and she achieved that.

I honestly do not get all the cries of racism. How on earth can any of you be so sure that the mother simply reported Marcus just because he was black? If the family are Sikh and religious it is much more likely that they were upset because they didn't want their daughter to have sex before marriage and the reaction could have been exactly the same if she had slept with a white boy.

Her daughter committed a crime too. As she had consensual sex outside marriage.

That isn’t a crime per se in Dubai. In Law she was a minor where the offence was committed which usually would have resulted in a reprimand. No idea what the male was accused of doing but the mother clearly wanted no further association with her daughter.

"Her daughter committed a crime too. As she had consensual sex outside marriage."

Under Dubai law she couldn't consent to marriage or sex until 18.

Funny how in the UK we don't blame prosecute minors when they "consent" to underage sex but then so many posters clamour for her punishment a d expect Dubai authorities to prosecute a person they consider a minor.

No. I am not 'clamouring for her punishment'. That is not what I said. To my mind, the young woman did nothing wrong.
What I am saying is that she was not a victim and Marcus was not a perpetrator. They were two very much consenting teenagers having sex. The mother decided, after her daughter was back in the UK, to seek vengeance on Marcus, to avoid her daughter and family being ousted by their community.

I wish with all my heart, that she instead had kept her own house in order and insisted on her own children living their lives in accordance with the values and customs she see fit. Rather than scapegoat someone else's child, resulting in harrowing circumstances for Marcus and his family.

Well quite.

I also agree

He was convicted under Dubai laws not British.

i do not believe it is an offence but then again I wouldn’t commit an offence in a country where it is an offence.

how is that strange to you?

The mother decided, after her daughter was back in the UK, to seek vengeance on Marcus, to avoid her daughter and family being ousted by their community.

I know nothing about this mother, other than she is said to be the person who reported Marcus to the Dubai authorities. Has she or the daughter given interviews, or is this speculation on Facebook etc?

They released him after a year. They knew he hadn't done anything wrong.

"You are coming across as lacking in compassion"

In the nicest possible way, perhaps you should pause to reflect on how you are coming across?

Explain what compassion you are talking about?

This is a horrible thread. RIP Marcus. His poor parents.

I don't know why my previous message got deleted.

The boy should not have been in prison and the Mother who reported him is a bitch.