Poor teen jailed in Dubai has died

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I’ve just seen this. How utterly heartbreaking for his parents.
it makes me even more angry about the vindictive mother that reported him.
Just so so sad.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/met-police-car-chase-crash-teenager-dead-tottenham-london-b1251170.html

You've no idea whether or not the mother of the girl reported him for racist reasons or not.

You also have no idea if he was courting trouble before the Dubai incident- you only know he had never been arrested before...

He broke the law not the Mother. His choice. Yes i think the punishment was harsh but you have to respect the laws of the land you are a visitor in.

Agreed

I don’t understand why some posters think it’s relevant to wonder if the young man had been in trouble before the Dubai incident even without any record of arrest
This line of thinking can unfairly suggest guilt without proof and contributes to biased narratives particularly around young black men
I am almost certain that if he had been a young white , middle class male many of the responses would have been different

I agree. Besides which, even if a young person were to have been in trouble it shouldn't make it apparently OK for them to die!

Marwaan Mohamed Huseen, of Argyle Road, Tottenham, has been charged over the fatal car crash.
The 19-year-old is charged with causing death by dangerous driving, driving without insurance, driving without a licence and failing to stop.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e7yyjw77qo

So the police had good reason to stop the car as the driver had no licence, was driving dangerously (clearly has he hasn't got a licence).

The 19 year old driver is being charged with causing death by dangerous driving, driving without a licence or insurance, and failing to stop. So why anyone could be attaching any blame to the mother of the girl the boy had sex with in Dubai, is beyond me.

We don’t know the part this poor boy played in his own death so talk of his ‘poor choices’ may be way off. He wasn’t in control of the alleged dangerous driving.

But even if it turns out he’d gone a little off the rails since returning from Dubai who can honestly blame him ? Vindictively reported and spent months in jail abroad, probably hugely angry and resentful on his return. If he had a criminal record probably hard to find work too. That mother ruined his life doing what she did.

i feel nothing but my greatest sympathies for him and his family.

I stand by my comment previously.

Your comments are ignorant.

Incorrect. I invite you read up on section 172 notices.

Standard police alternative to pursuits, served by post, registered keeper has 28 days to respond with name of driver at time of failure to stop, 6 points/£1000 fine on non-answer, jail if like and pervert the course if justice.

So yes, they absolutely do have to consider whether "someone might have got hurt if we tried to stop them"

The situation is heartbreaking a young man of 19 has lost his life I'm the parent of a nearly 19 year old ,it's every parents worse nightmare
And some posters can't help themselves bitching about him awful..

It's absolutely shameful, yet they obviously think themselves superior!

He was one of two people killed in police pursuits last night, the other being in Yorkshire.

The sad fact is this is only "headline" news because of the previous case. He would just have been a statistic otherwise.

There was a 60 second chase and then the police lost sight of the car, they later found it slammed into the side of a truck.

If the car had stopped then this wouldn't have happened, but obviously the driver knew that he because he didn't have a licence etc he would be in trouble.

A lot of conjuncture in this thread, all based around the actions of the mother who originally reported him. Of the many "what ifs" no has considered that if the mother didn't break up the relationship it could've been her daughter in that car too.

It’s a quote from the report I linked.

Surely that assumes the owner actually knows who was driving their car - which may have been stolen.

What sad news.

I feel really sorry for his family.

You’re standing by a comment for which you have no proof? Isn’t that ignorance?

That is really sad. I have nothing nasty to add.

In the quite different circumstances where the car has been reported stolen, the pursuit would likely be authorised as the police would be attempting to apprehend a criminal. A dynamic risk assessment would be made based on the risk to the safety of the general public of the pursuit vs the harm the offender poses to the public (a suspected armed robber would pose significant risk to the public, for example).

In Marcus's case, the driver of the car has not been charged with aggravated vehicle taking or any other charges relating to vehicle theft.

Driving without a license or insurance is a minor breach of the law and would not be treated in the same way as vehicle theft.

Any attacks in the direction of the Morher who reported that her daughter had illegal sex in Dubai with, in Law, an adult are shameful. When any person, particularly when young, loses their life it is sad; to vilify a Mother who reported a crime, found to be proven, in these circumstances, is deplorable. Everything and anything is conjecture other than what the driver has been charged with, and that one person is dead after a short police pursuit.

Because he's a young man?
Putting themselves in risky situation is what young men do. That's not the same as hurting others. There's no evidence he's done anything that makes him a bad person or that hurt other people. He wasn't even the one driving the car. Even if he was it would still be a tragedy.

He's a teenage boy who died tragically.

Tbh dying in a car crash is not unusual. And yes, they should have stopped and the driver will surely be punished for that.

But it’s very sad for his family that it happened just months after release.

My son is also 19. I can’t imagine what his parents are going through
Some comments on here are shameful

But it wasn't a crime by British standards. It was consensual sex between a 17yo and an 18yo. The girl returned to the UK. There was no reason for the mother to report it at all, and she only did so once her child was safely back in the UK.

She wanted UK law for her child, but UAE law for the boy. Hypocrisy & double standards in every way.