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Livpool · 04/10/2025 15:39

OonaStubbs · 04/10/2025 13:26

He doesn't sound like a very bright lad. He broke the law in Dubai, faced the consequences, and that clearly didn't teach him anything as he broke the law again shortly after his early release and paid the ultimate price. RIP.

You sound vile!

He was a passenger so no law broken by him. And loads of innocent people are locked up in Dubai

HRchatter · 04/10/2025 15:42

Asunciondeflata · 04/10/2025 15:29

Yes, unfortunately, trying to outrun them is a dangerous game, especially in an urban area. Better to have a few minutes worth of annoyance and inconvenience, surely?
Anyway. It had a tragic end for Marcus.

It’s not only dangerous it’s a criminal offence.
Penalties for failing to stop include a fine of up to £5,000, 5-10 penalty points on your license, a potential driving disqualification, and in serious cases, up to six months imprisonment.

MorrisZapp · 04/10/2025 15:46

Asunciondeflata · 04/10/2025 15:23

The 19 year old driver had no licence, no insurance, failed to stop and has been charged with causing death by dangerous driving.
Marcus seems to have been in a car with a reckless person driving, unfortunately.

And very possibly not wearing a seatbelt himself.

TheNightingalesStarling · 04/10/2025 15:46

Qif all this happened just because the driver didn't have a licence it all seems just a waste. The driver has ruined his own life and his friends over not wanting a fine and points.

vonHammersmark · 04/10/2025 15:48

Lampzade · 04/10/2025 15:32

Why?

Because like most news items, it's interesting. Aren't you curious about anything ever at all?

Asunciondeflata · 04/10/2025 15:48

HRchatter · 04/10/2025 15:42

It’s not only dangerous it’s a criminal offence.
Penalties for failing to stop include a fine of up to £5,000, 5-10 penalty points on your license, a potential driving disqualification, and in serious cases, up to six months imprisonment.

Yes, and now a death on his hands.

nomas · 04/10/2025 15:57

AlecTrevelyan006 · 04/10/2025 15:00

picture of crash scene on BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e7yyjw77qo

a very big expensive BMW for a 19yr old to be driving. The photo shows all the damage is on the driver side so I'm going to guess that Marcus was not wearing a seatbelt and possibly sitting in the rear of the car.

RIP.

That crash scene is awful. RIP indeed. You would think the driver would be worse off as it’s the driver side that collided, but he has survived.

I heard some places have rules that young people can’t ride together in the same car. They can either ride alone or with others if there is an an older adult present. I wonder if that would help in the UK. Probably not.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 04/10/2025 15:59

Nameychangington · 04/10/2025 15:34

The Met are institutionally racist and misogynist. Anyone who would be at risk from racism or misogyny may well be concerned when they are at the mercy of a person in authority who is from a known racist misogynist organisation. Not everyone is able to assume that a police stop is no big deal and nothing to make a fuss about. It might be, but not everyone can assume it will be.

Exactly this. It's like the BBC documentary this week never happened.

Women, people of colour, gay/trans people are not safe from the very people supposed to protect them.

Black people in the UK die in police cells. A stop and search could mean death.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 04/10/2025 16:02

I’m glad the people in the other car weren’t killed.
I can’t imagine the pain his family are in.

Nanny0gg · 04/10/2025 16:08

HRchatter · 04/10/2025 13:04

Oh, of course the driver was trying to get away from a police pursuit because he was going to be late for church 🙄

You've been reported and deleted once

Keep it up

Praying4Peace · 04/10/2025 16:27

Soonenough · 04/10/2025 09:55

Foolish young men will be risk takers. I feel horrible for his family.

Harsh, insensitive comment

HRchatter · 04/10/2025 16:29

Nanny0gg · 04/10/2025 16:08

You've been reported and deleted once

Keep it up

Yes, that’s right up there with killing your friend in a car crash hiding from the police 🤣
Consider myself suitably chastised 🤣🤣

Praying4Peace · 04/10/2025 16:31

cardibach · 04/10/2025 14:25

Actions have consequences.
His actions (which I don’t consider to be unpleasant) resulted in him being imprisoned when he was reported for them.
Hers (which I consider to be vindictive and unnecessary) result in me judging her.
I think you would have to be very un empathetic to think being imprisoned 8n a Dubai jail for such a minor ‘offence’ would change a person.

So, OK. I’ll rephrase it as in my opinion she bears some responsibility for how his life ultimately turned out.

Sarcastic and nasty. The lady has lost a son. May he RIP

TwistyTales · 04/10/2025 16:35

Praying4Peace · 04/10/2025 16:31

Sarcastic and nasty. The lady has lost a son. May he RIP

You gave totally misread the post.

Soonenough · 04/10/2025 16:35

@Praying4Peace Wasnt meant to be . Just commenting on the fact that young people often have no concept of danger despite parents' best effort . And that his family are once again grieving .

Hellohelga · 04/10/2025 16:36

I’ve been stopped while driving. I was committing an offence. I apologised, took the points and fine, and life continued. If you drive illegally you will eventually be stopped and you’ve a choice to make - stop or run. These boys made the wrong choice. You aren’t talking prison time for no licence and uninsured unless someone is killed, so there was no need to run. If they had drugs or guns in the car it would be different. Now one is dead and the other will go to prison. Sad and pointless.

cardibach · 04/10/2025 16:36

Praying4Peace · 04/10/2025 16:31

Sarcastic and nasty. The lady has lost a son. May he RIP

Eh? I’m talking about the mother who had him jailed in Dubai. Not sure how it’s possible to read it incorrectly, but you have.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2025 16:37

Can we all just take five, calm down and remember that Marcus's only "crimes" were having consensual sex with a girl a couple of months younger than himself, and being a passenger in a car that someone else was driving dangerously?

BlondeFool · 04/10/2025 16:39

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/10/2025 16:37

Can we all just take five, calm down and remember that Marcus's only "crimes" were having consensual sex with a girl a couple of months younger than himself, and being a passenger in a car that someone else was driving dangerously?

This. His family must be in unimaginable pain.

The girl was 17 and 11 months and he was a passenger in the car. Some of the posts lack empathy.

WeeGeeBored · 04/10/2025 16:41

TheRavenKingsDaughter · 04/10/2025 09:45

I heard this on the radio earlier and honestly gasped at this terrible ill fortune.

Hard to know what to think. But police chasing teenagers doesn’t always end well.

It’s so hard to keep one’s children safe as young adults.

I thought the police didn’t get involved in chases because it endangers members of the public?

DancingLions · 04/10/2025 16:45

I cannot believe some of these responses and the assumptions being made.

It's clear from the photo that there was no "other car". The car smashed into a stationary truck by the looks of it. So no one else got hurt.

It clearly needs drumming into people's heads that Marcus was not driving. But still people are trying to twist it that he's to blame for his own death.

He was 19 years old. Have none of you made stupid decisions as a teenager? I did, plenty of them! Then I grew up. To see this as anything other than a tragedy is unfathomable to me.

ChangingWeight · 04/10/2025 16:46

flyingsquirrelsagogo · 04/10/2025 13:52

This.
I hope the mother lives with the guilt for the rest of her life.
What about her poor daughter too? Not only will she feel guilt for feeling she was partly responsible for him going to prison, likely her relationship with her mum wit is have been damaged beyond repair, and now Marcus has been killed.
So many lives changed forever.

Correlation does not equal causation.

She has nothing to do with his death - you make it seem like she personally killed him or caused his death. You’re emotional and overreacting.

It’s sad that a 19 year is dead, but ultimately the common denominator in both matters is him. You’re not going to like hearing this, but he’s the one who broke the law in Dubai, and he’s the one who chose to get into the car of this particular mate. A mate who at the time of the incident chose not to comply with the police. We can only speculate why, but it could be the case that the deceased just made bad choices in terms of the people he spends time with. Which is totally valid for a 18/19 year old, but that doesn’t mean that his misadventures are anyone else’s fault.

Chenecinquantecinq · 04/10/2025 16:48

He was being chased by the police!!! So what he was the passenger, I am often a passenger never chased by the police shows the company he kept. Yes its sad a young boy went down the wrong path and ends up dead but really you are blaming the mother of the girl as being vindictive????? Are you for real? I would not want my daughters in relationships with criminals (or dodgy men) either!

Nanny0gg · 04/10/2025 16:49

Chenecinquantecinq · 04/10/2025 16:48

He was being chased by the police!!! So what he was the passenger, I am often a passenger never chased by the police shows the company he kept. Yes its sad a young boy went down the wrong path and ends up dead but really you are blaming the mother of the girl as being vindictive????? Are you for real? I would not want my daughters in relationships with criminals (or dodgy men) either!

He wasn't a 'criminal' when she reported him for what would go totally unremarked in this country

Clavinova · 04/10/2025 16:49

cardibach
He might have been at university in a different town if he hadn’t gone to jail in Dubai

He was described as an 'apprentice builder' last year so unlikely university.