Thread 34 Starmer - Conference Swanwiches and a Deputy Leader contest

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So I see. Blimey.

I wish Lammy hadn't said that about Hitler Youth, though. He really does himself no favours at times.

I am sure Farage has said worse about Lammy. It's not even anything new as that teacher letter has been doing the rounds for years.

But yes better to focus on Farage's racist policies

They take the piss out of David Lammy for good reason on Dead Ringers. This is also the reason that he’s no longer Foreign Secretary imo

I somehow managed to get through my school days without any teachers expressing concerns that I was racist. Remarkable really.

I suppose it was better not to further stoke Farage's politics of aggrievement. A bit of distraction from the meat of the Reform policy announcement.

YouGov

Tell me this isn't true.

That rather misses out the people who think they can benefit from rolling back employment protections or who are excited by fracking etc etc.

It would need rolling commentary to fit everything in.

Given THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE it's quite amusing how few people there are who remember their support for Brexit.

Shades of the legend than in 1974 you couldn't find a Nixon voter in the US.

Reform need to be nailed to the Brexit mast, and then lets see how far they fly.

What is Reforms take on Brexit, by the way ? It's not that I don't know. It's much more that they don't. And if the media allow them, they never will.

I'm intrigued by the 1% surveyed who, as Reform voters, think the policies of Reform aren't racist but the voters are...

This is fascinating.

I'm most interested by the mealy mouthed Labour voters who are even scared to say what they really think to an anonymous survey (known research problem by the way!)

I am more than happy that Lammy said what he did.

People need to speak out. As a person of colour he has more than adequate experience to identify racism and xenophobia on the march.

I frequently lie on surveys. It make time pass. It also gives me 100% proof that you can't trust surveys.

It may shock some people to learn that I use a random word for my Mothers maiden name too.

£122 million incoming to government. I wonder if this was budgeted for or is a nice surprise ?

What's the threads views ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd72p30v574o

Is that the Mone money?

Indeed. Since it was the result of a court action which wasn't decided, it presumably wasn't included in "income" when the sums were being done.

£122 million is serious wonga.

Haven’t PPE Medpro just so happened to have appointed an administrator this week?

I’d like to think the money is coming back.

Are there criminal charges in tandem ?

The National Crime Agency was investigating at one point I think - fraud by false representation & conspiracy to fraud. But I dont know whether charges have been made.

Let’s hope they can prove criminal activity.
It’s more than 122 million - transport costs etc are another 8.

Mone’s complaints are outstanding!

I wish he had been more precise. Instead of saying Farage flirted with the Hitler Youth, he should have said that his school raised concerns about xyz.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/oct/01/nigel-farage-what-are-schoolboy-racism-claims-why-have-they-resurfaced

The company has filed for administration.

No one is surprised by this jane!

But, actaully what I meant was the people who lie because they want to give the 'right' answer, even when no one is looking! I suspect Sir Keir would come under this category. I bet he'd never do a Gordon Brown.