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Chance of a general election next year and Reform winning?

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Confused78 · 25/09/2025 21:50

They are winning in the polls it seems. I've been watching Nigel Farage's Instagram, he really just talks common sense. I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says.
I'm definitely not far right and I'm not a leftie,
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
But I am sick of Conservative and Labour and think it's time to give a new party a chance, especially if they are going to properly tackle illegal immigrants coming over and the ones that are already here.
I don't necessarily agree with his call to deport those with Indefinite leave to remain however.

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Codyrhodesisaheel · 26/09/2025 07:44

Menopausalsourpuss · 26/09/2025 07:39

And no you couldn't be sacked before 2010 (Equality act) for your religion or race - that is complete and utter bollocks.

Ok I’ll recognise the race relations act 1976 and the employment equality regulations 2003 which gave some protections but as not as much.

my question is why do you think the equality act is a bad thing? What possible benefits will it make by removing it?

BeHappySloth · 26/09/2025 07:47

Codyrhodesisaheel · 26/09/2025 07:44

Ok I’ll recognise the race relations act 1976 and the employment equality regulations 2003 which gave some protections but as not as much.

my question is why do you think the equality act is a bad thing? What possible benefits will it make by removing it?

Too many rights, innit?

frozendaisy · 26/09/2025 07:47

Menopausalsourpuss · 26/09/2025 07:38

All these posters seem to be living in a different world to me - in what world are Labour running education, the economy, anything competently (or the Tories for that matter but things are getting even worse under Labour). And they are the most divisive people going - protected characteristics anyone? They and the Tories are the ones who have birthed the current division and strife in our society - in the 90s before the Equality Act, and mass immigration we all just got along and our society was very cohesive.

Have you forgotten the financial chaos Truss unleashed in just 49 little days?

And before the 90s we didn’t all just get along, there was huge discontent, homophobic beatings, football hooliganism, domestic violence, child neglect, areas of extreme poverty trying to find 50p for electric meters. Powerful men could get away with child abuse and the police were as corrupt as you like.

The good old days eh! When pale straight males ruled the world, well a handful of them anyway.

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Codyrhodesisaheel · 26/09/2025 07:50

BeHappySloth · 26/09/2025 07:47

Too many rights, innit?

Exactly. What they are outright saying is how dare people of colour have the same rights as a white person. Or how dare someone with disabilities have the same right as an able bodied or neurotypical person.

FilterBubble · 26/09/2025 07:55

People seem to be in denial that Farage would win or do very well. I remember the pre-Trump and pre-Boris years, where people actively laughed at the prospect of either of them getting top jobs. And said something along the lines of that's never gonna happen!

All you need to do is spout a little populist rhetoric and become a darling of the press.

We used to have a decent opposition in this country where at least, we would hear things like: 'this is not working', followed by 'we could do this to fix it'. Shout the first and in a drunken stupor we'll all nod our heads in agreement and bang our glasses on the table.

Farage has the media on side, and he's very good at playing the socials. When vox-popping youth, many seem to be buying into Reform, partly because it's the protest vote. And because they believe everything they read on TikTok etc. I remember hearing something very similar during Brexit, lads chanting for Brexit in the street like some football hooligans.

Reform had no real manifesto in the past, but at least now you can read some of their guff on their website, and they have almost made it look passable in principle. With excerpts about how they would support the NHS even.

Reform would just lead to a Trumpism, more deregulation ala Liz Truss, fracking, the selling off of the NHS, and probably a collapse/sell off of the welfare state.

Quite why anyone would buy anything Farage says after he screwed the country with Brexit is beyond me. He's just a conman. Has had two foreign girlfriends. Got an EU passport (the day after Brexit). And he'll still likely get his £70,000 a year EU pension on top of his EU severance payout of £150,000. And now his yearly MP salary, where he's doing nothing for Clacton. He's a self-serving con-man plain and simple. And then there's the other goons in Reform who are a bunch of lunatics, totally unfit to govern. Just listen to them speak.

But as the UK bought Johnson, I've no doubt the amnesia will kick in, and they will self sabotage again. I could quite imagine a Reform win. The Tory voters have nowhere to go at the moment.

Rather than an election, I wouldn't mind seeing a referendum for electoral reform, that will at least give Reform a fairer share of power, however much I detest them. I loathe Starmer's Labour but as a voter have nowhere else to go under the current system, I'm not prepared to toss Reform my vote as a protest to get a bunch of pound shop Mousilinis that further trash the country. The last 15 years have been bad enough.

Dungeonsanddraggingafternoons · 26/09/2025 07:57

That’s terrifying. I’d probably leave the country. I have a disabled child and nothing scares me me like the thought of his support being removed.

TwilightAb · 26/09/2025 07:58

Be careful what you wish for.

WeirdyBeardyMarrowBabyLady · 26/09/2025 07:59

It’s ok only to know a couple of their policies OP. You’ve got three years to research them ahead of the next GE.

Viviennemary · 26/09/2025 08:01

IdaGlossop · 26/09/2025 00:49

Holistically, inheritance tax is fair because it provides a route, theoretically, to distributing wealth more evenly. This evening, I listened to a charity CEO in the country where I live talk about families in which two children share a pair of shoes. Poverty is undoubtedly an issuecbut extreme wealth is a greater issue. Trickle-down economics don't work so policy makers and politicians have to find other ways of making our society more equitable, as the Scandinavian countries have largely done.

People can earn their own money. I don't agree with robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Bluenose1966 · 26/09/2025 08:06

Good old Nige will take us back to those halcyon days when the UK was great, not.
My mum used to be horrified at signs in the 60s saying “No coloureds, No Irish”
I naively thought racism had really reduced but unfortunately can see how it has just been hidden and the racists are now emboldened both here and in the UK.

Before Brexit we had the Dublin Agreement in which we had the right to send anyone back who arrived from France by boat, unfortunately Brexit ended that. Noticed The Lib Dem’s are saying they should be called the Brexit boats as it is because of Brexit they can’t do anything about them.

BeHappySloth · 26/09/2025 08:06

Viviennemary · 26/09/2025 08:01

People can earn their own money. I don't agree with robbing Peter to pay Paul.

I agree that people can earn their own money. That's why I support the tax on large inheritances.

Pharazon · 26/09/2025 08:14

Menopausalsourpuss · 26/09/2025 07:39

And no you couldn't be sacked before 2010 (Equality act) for your religion or race - that is complete and utter bollocks.

That’s because the Equality Act 2010 replaced earlier legislation such as the Race Relations Act, Sex Discrimination Act, Disability Discrimination Act etc. it brought all the existing legislation (9 acts and over 100 SIs) into a single bundle.

Are Reform proposing to re-enact the original legislation that the Equality Act replaced?

LillyPJ · 26/09/2025 08:49

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 07:19

Why nil? Even if MRP today shows they have the support after just 14 months.

Not sure about next year part for actual GE though op. Depends on Labour mucking it up more.

Edited

Labour could muck up it big time - there still wouldn't be a General Election next year (unless they chose to have one, which would be a nonsensical thing to do).

HerewardtheSleepy · 26/09/2025 09:10

Zero. No party with a 150-ish majority needs to call an election until it's good and ready or it's time runs out..

Codyrhodesisaheel · 26/09/2025 09:12

What reform voters need to realise is that 4 years is an extremely long time in politics. A LOT can happen in that timeframe.

I looked up the YouGov voter intention surveys in 2020 and 2021, so a year after the 2019 election (so a comparable time frame to now, considering we are 15 months into a new election cycle). Voter intention was to overwhelmingly vote Conservative and Labour were dead and buried.

So Nigel needs to stop counting his chickens before they've hatched....

Menopausalsourpuss · 26/09/2025 09:12

frozendaisy · 26/09/2025 07:47

Have you forgotten the financial chaos Truss unleashed in just 49 little days?

And before the 90s we didn’t all just get along, there was huge discontent, homophobic beatings, football hooliganism, domestic violence, child neglect, areas of extreme poverty trying to find 50p for electric meters. Powerful men could get away with child abuse and the police were as corrupt as you like.

The good old days eh! When pale straight males ruled the world, well a handful of them anyway.

Read my post I said the 90s not before the 90s. All those things have always (and still) happen - you could argue that areas like homophobia are alot worse what with importing people from countries with different values (see Reading killings and Ireland beheadings amongst many underplayed by the authorities- these sort of things didn't happen in the 90s). And if you think powerful men aren't still getting away with child abuse (see a certain Epstein) you're even deluded than you seem.

Codyrhodesisaheel · 26/09/2025 09:23

but like I've just posted @Underthinker - those same polls were saying that Conservatives were going to win the 2024 election.

I'm not saying we discount them entirely - clearly politicians need to be aware of public sentiment. But equally that doesn't mean that Reform are the next government.

The only known truth we have is that a LOT could change.

ladygindiva · 26/09/2025 09:25

Confused78 · 25/09/2025 22:07

@slightlyunimpressed why would Reform fall apart when they seem to be the only party that want to end illegal immigration and get the country prospering again?

You think the reason this country is failing to prosper is because of immigration?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Are you eight years old???

BluntPlumHam · 26/09/2025 09:31

Menopausalsourpuss · 26/09/2025 07:38

All these posters seem to be living in a different world to me - in what world are Labour running education, the economy, anything competently (or the Tories for that matter but things are getting even worse under Labour). And they are the most divisive people going - protected characteristics anyone? They and the Tories are the ones who have birthed the current division and strife in our society - in the 90s before the Equality Act, and mass immigration we all just got along and our society was very cohesive.

I have seen you post this on other threads. YOU lived fine and got along etc but your privilege afforded you that. The Equalities act and HRA ensures that isn’t just YOU and whatever privileges you have are protected but everyone is afforded the same protections. No we do not want to return to your times because that would be undoing progress.

PlanetSaturn · 26/09/2025 09:31

Confused78 · 25/09/2025 22:12

Ok well all the hype about Reform at the moment and the support they seem to have going by all the comments on Instagram and Twitter is pointless then, as they aren't going to win according to the replies here.

Do you know how social media algorithms work OP? There’s your answer.

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 09:32

PlanetSaturn · 26/09/2025 09:31

Do you know how social media algorithms work OP? There’s your answer.

Tbf the MRP released today is more reliable than mn threads.

ShesTheAlbatross · 26/09/2025 09:54

Underthinker · 26/09/2025 09:20

New polling out says that if there were a GE today, reform would be xlose to an outright majority on 311 seats, with Labour down to 144.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/53644fbd-d669-446f-bef1-f5db0ceff159?shareToken=1dba3afd0bc5af8e9bf287c0c963b524

I suspect in reality, there would be increased coordinated tactical voting and things would be closer.

Plus if I was betting, I’d say that by the time the next GE actually comes around, Badenoch definitely won’t be leader of the Tories, and Starmer probably won’t be PM.

Bluenose1966 · 26/09/2025 09:59

PlanetSaturn · 26/09/2025 09:31

Do you know how social media algorithms work OP? There’s your answer.

Agreed.
Can’t remember who did the research but they opened 5 new Instagram accounts, each one only following posts by a different political party eg Labour, Conservative, Lib Dem, Green and Reform . Despite that over 60% of all suggested reels etc for each account were far right.
Unfortunately the social media companies and most papers are owned by billionaires who want us to vote far right to protect their interests.

CeciCC · 26/09/2025 10:10

Confused78 · 25/09/2025 22:05

@CheshireCat1 what rights would they remove? Genuine question as I don't know their other policies.

Hi. Reform is all against migrants. First it was just the ones who arrived by boat. Now, they want to stop the right to remain for millions of documented migrants. At the moment for the ones that have been on the country for less than 5 years. However, i would think that soon enough would be anyone.
Reform would like to dismantle the NHS and everyone to pay healthcare like the US.
Farage is like Trump. 🤮

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