Chance of a general election next year and Reform winning?

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They are winning in the polls it seems. I've been watching Nigel Farage's Instagram, he really just talks common sense. I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says.
I'm definitely not far right and I'm not a leftie,
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
But I am sick of Conservative and Labour and think it's time to give a new party a chance, especially if they are going to properly tackle illegal immigrants coming over and the ones that are already here.
I don't necessarily agree with his call to deport those with Indefinite leave to remain however.

You could say exactly the same of fundamentalist Christianity and Orthodox Judaism. It is utterly hypocritical to single out Islam for this kind of criticism.

On that we most definitely agree.

You didn’t read my post properly, did you? No wonder Labour supporters are delusional.

Banning state funded religious schools would not be a problem for me as long as it applied to all faiths. I would love to see that happening. Fundamentalist religious parents of all faiths could home educate or go private. Religion should stay in the home and in churches/mosques/synagogues. Of course people should be free to preach on the streets, leaflet, knock on doors - that isn't state funded.

Ah so you believe in certain forms of discrimination? It's OK to force religious families to go against their beliefs and indeed the HRA re: education?

I did read your post. I just know too many Muslims to see it as anything other than one sided bollocks. Muslims are no more a monolithic block of belief than any other faith.

Oh get off your soap box @IWFH and @pointythings and stop your hysterical strawman frothing.

The UK has very little racism. The pp isn't racist. Your friend is perfectly safe to live her life.

People are allowed to have different opinions, and don't need to prove that their thoughts are pure and perfect to you.

If you're really worried about the rise of protest and dissent, then tell your Labour leaders to stop gas-lighting about 'Enemies' and 'Racists' because that's what is raising the political temperature: Labour's divisive, aggressive polemics.

Labour also need to actually do something about the illegal immigration and also excessive legal immigration, which are both reducing everyone's quality of life. If Mahmood manages to get her changes in and extends the time requiremrnt and adds conditions around integration, lack of criminal record, and being financially independent in order to get ILR before the Boris wave comes through, then Reform will undoubtedly backtrack on the removal of existing ILR. If Labour MPs continue to fight the slightest restrictions on immigration, then it's early notice that the UK won't be held to permanent consequences of their stupidity once they're out.

The HRA doesn't demand single sex provision. If a religious parent wants that, single sex schools are available. There is no requirement in law for the state to provide them, however. As I have said, home education or private provision is available and covers the requirements.

Religious discrimination in faith schools is a knotty problem. The Equality Act (which is the relevant legislation) sets it out well. But it also doesn't explicitly state that there is a right to state funded single sex education.

There aren't single sex state schools in many areas of UK though. HRA specifically says state can't interfere with parents right to educate their children according to religious or ethical beliefs.

Pointing out that racist behaviour is on the rise isn't 'hysterical frothing'. Telling people to just stop looking different is victim blaming. Do you also blame rape victims because of what they may have been wearing?

But the UK allows home education.

Immigration is substantially down this year...

And most parents don't feel equipped to do it.
Just interesting musings really about how 1 form of discrimination is (rightly) called out by the Left yet they actively call for other forms.

Reform have already backtracked on the ILR as it is no longer is applicable to European nationals. @strawberrybubblegum

I feel with almost 100% confidence that there is no chance an general election next year. The Prime Minister has a strong majority, and MPs don't have no-confidence votes when they could loss their seats.

I think the next general election will be on the last day legally possible so the this Government will cling onto every second of power they can get.

Yep agree on Labour’s rhetoric. Shouting divisive slogans at people will not help.

This is a good example of hysterical frothing.

The HRA doesn't require the government to provide faith schools and I'm not sure why you think it does. State-funded faith schools do not exist in the US or France - are they discriminating against people because of this? Of course not, if people want a religious education they send their children to a private school or home educate. Just as I would do if I wanted a Catholic or Jewish or Muslim education for my children, because the only faith schools in my area are CofE.

Great post.

I think you’re right, but I wouldn’t rule it out completely…if the budget and accompanying rhetoric goes they way I think it will then there is going to be a lot of angry people. The Labour conference was just totally detached from reality, I can’t ever remember a Government being this out of touch.

'I'm the woman Keir Starmer used to prove he understands people's concerns about migration... now I don't believe a word he says': Life-long Labour supporter showcased by PM at Conference says she'll NEVER vote for party again

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15154989/Life-long-Labour-supporter-touted-PM-Conference-says-never-vote-party-again.html#

Almost every single person in the country can be angry, the only people who have a say are the 400 Labour MPs, and they won't because self interest will take over national interest.

The only way I could see an earlier election would be a mass defection of MPs from Labour.

So out of touch is he that Starmer referenced a conversation he had with a member of the electorate, 10years ago. What a bellend.

If the OP thinks that there could be an election next year because Reform are polling well they know absolutely nothing about how the UK election cycle works.

There was a TV show about 10 years ago that follows police about in the UK. A family of Romanian immigrants had captured, cooked, and eaten a swan from the park.

Seen some folk on tiktok (often used to sway public opinion) with influencers shouting about how swans are delicious and why shouldn't we eat them.

I hate Reform and think they're racist. But it's not ridiculous to say that people from other cultures view things we view as abhorrent or weird, as perfectly routine.