Chance of a general election next year and Reform winning?

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They are winning in the polls it seems. I've been watching Nigel Farage's Instagram, he really just talks common sense. I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says.
I'm definitely not far right and I'm not a leftie,
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
But I am sick of Conservative and Labour and think it's time to give a new party a chance, especially if they are going to properly tackle illegal immigrants coming over and the ones that are already here.
I don't necessarily agree with his call to deport those with Indefinite leave to remain however.

Whatever our differences, there is no place for talk of ‘hate’.

Never.

Maybe remember that the next time you’re tempted to discharge one of your streams of vitriol about the government.

I have been consistent with my disdain for this Government, premised on the unfolding dynamic.

I must confess, Starmers latest potential error of judgement, yesterday - stating that he wanted Rayner ‘back’, was music to my ears.

The bloke keeps treating the electorate like fools, and that’s why we have Reform - Labour have brought this upon themselves.

When the inevitable tax rises are announced at the end of November, Starmer and his merry troupe will really be in trouble. I am positively salivating at the prospect.

Ps. I don’t do hate - nice try though.

If people really think that Starmer is a worse PM than Truss, or 'Let the bodies pile high ', smuggling suitcases full of booze into No.10 and give Michelle Mone £120,000,000 Johnson I am staggered at their short memory span.

There you go the ratings show otherwise. He isn’t doing well.

Yet they do. I believe that's the worst polling for any government in the first year of coming in?

https://x.com/Telegraph/status/1948292335197974803

Milei is also a hero of Nigel Farage who describes him as "amazing". For context Milei's Argentina has had a rescue fund from the IMF, a $20bn loan from Trump and the value of the peso has dropped like a stone, since he's come to power.

Sorry but you don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to EM, and particularly Argentina.

Context and history is everything.

The jaws of death…

I think everyone is aware that the polling is absolutely shit for Labour at the moment.

But I'm afraid your jaws of death will take a long time closing because you'll still have to wait until 2029.

They get any wider and everyone will be lamenting that.

I won't lament anything thank you - because the longer Labour are in power the longer the country has a chance to recognise what Reform really stands for.

I doubt, but I still hope that the far right swing of the UK can be reversed.

I believe strong parallels can be drawn between Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists on the 1930s and our current situation. Mosley was wildly popular for a period but he never quite gained power.

We've already had one poster on this thread stating that it's the fault of Muslims wearing traditional headscarfs that they are at risk of attack and that she hated seeing them (post now deleted). What's your view on that?

This is polemic. No party reform or otherwise in their right mind would call an election so soon after being elected. Like or loathe Labour they have barely had a chance in power to see effects of anything. Absolutely no chance of an election next year.
What will happen when there is an election though in 2029 (or possibly a year earlier) - high chance of a coalition involving reform.

If this was my post that was deleted I did not say they deserve to be attacked for wearing cover ups. The poster said her friend was getting more abuse since all the talk about NF in the media. I said surely if she wants to keep herself safe she should try and blend in more. If something marked me out as different and was leading to me being abused I'd do whatever it took to stay safe.

sensible no?

Except my post was deleted cos I forgot british people have no rights now apparently and can't have their own opinions which are different.

I also hate it when I see dogs being cruelly treated here.
Reminds me very much of the dogs abroad (which I have done fundraising for).
Perhaps I have just offended dogs as well now with that opinion.

No wonder the country is in uproar.

That's a completely simplistic view, I'm afraid. Of course there will be Muslim women who are controlled and oppressed. Religion does that; I have seen so many threads on the Relationship board where women have been afraid to leave abusive men because their (usually evangelical Christian) church community would ostracise them.

But there are also women who choose that life. You don't have to like it, but here in the UK, we are free to express our faith.

Do you want to take that away from people?

This. Many British Muslim women actively choose to wear the hijab. It’s called religious freedom.
Would you ban Jewish people, Sikhs, Christians, Hindus, Pagans, whichever group, from outwardly displaying their religious affiliations too?

if it drops further it’ll get tricky for Labour. Just via local and other elections.

They can ignore polling but harder to do when votes come back.

Re your question I skipped the discussion, I see the pp has responded.

If you think they’ve got real choice, you’re deeply misguided. Muslims are indoctrinated from birth about Islam. As many children from another religion are indoctrinated from birth. Muslims kids however have to study the Koran. They have no choice. So yes they get older they go to uni, they have ‘freedoms’ but make no mistake - the religion and culture of Shame, is everything.

So whilst you simplistically say, they have a choice to wear this or that, yes most often they do.

But it’s a choice within the realms of the fact they are Muslim. And that has expectations, most westerners do not understand.

@ILoveSeeingInterestOnMySavings
I didn't miss the point. I know some muslims are born here. They are still choosing to dress unlike us.

When did you become the clothes police? Do you also think Orthodox Jews shouldn't wear their traditional garb if they choose? Would you ban Turbans on the buses? I don't dress in a Union Flag T-shirt. Should that be banned?
Perhaps you also advocate for banning short skirts since you seem to be keen on victim blaming?

The reason your post is racist because you don't accept that British Muslims literally are also 'us'.

This is simply untrue stereotyping.

What's your view on Catholics?

As far as I’m concerned, all religion is indoctrination.
I’m grateful to live in a country where people are free to express their beliefs, though.

I’m interested to learn exactly who “us” are?

See all this religious talk is interesting because there are several left wing posters on MN who have stated that there should be no religious state funded schools ie Muslim/Jewish/Catholic.
Wouldn't this go against the religious and ethnic plurality that many on here are trying to maintain? If we ban state funded religious schools wouldn't this be a bad thing because some of these religions believe girls and boys should be educated separately and under HRA they have a right to be educated according to patents religious beliefs.

I haven't heard any right wing posters wanting to end faith schools.

No it isn’t.

Catholics? As I said in my post ‘As many children from another religion are indoctrinated from birth.’

I’m an atheist and hold no grudge any particular religion. They're all bull shit to me. Some worse than others. But they serve a purpose which at best is giving people hope and community, at worst well I don’t need to start that discussion here.