Chance of a general election next year and Reform winning?

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They are winning in the polls it seems. I've been watching Nigel Farage's Instagram, he really just talks common sense. I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says.
I'm definitely not far right and I'm not a leftie,
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
But I am sick of Conservative and Labour and think it's time to give a new party a chance, especially if they are going to properly tackle illegal immigrants coming over and the ones that are already here.
I don't necessarily agree with his call to deport those with Indefinite leave to remain however.

No, because I am not anti-Labour.

I am anti this government (which is a Labour one), for reasons relating to their incompetence, hypocrisy, weakness, envy, spite etc etc

For those reasons, I can’t wait to see the back of them.

No we stopped our british culture of 'fairness' when our goverment stated the illegals had more rights than us.

'Supporting the underdog' is a lovely theory except we can't afford that and now we have a nation of workshy benefit claimants who are helping the demise of the country.

In case you hadn't noticed our debt has increased hugely, our goverment bonds now have a high rate of interest, inflation is going up and growth going nowhere. Google stagflation if you don't know what that means. Our basic services are failing, shoplifting is rife and people are very understandly feeling very angry.
Add to that lack of housing, food prices and the small boats and rage is boiling under our veneer of civil society. Business confidence is at an all time low.

I don't do anything when I see women wearing their cover-ups but I do seethe inside. I don't want to see the repression of woman. I find it strange that you do.

I completely understand all woman who originally come from muslim countries to want to get the hell out of there. So if they are lucky enough to live somewhere where woman are treated like humans why would you wear that repressed get up. I'm offended looking at it but nobody cares about that.

It's common sense that if racist tensions are high you should blend in as much as possible. I mean if I went on a holiday to Afghanistan (assuming that's even possible) and walked about with cut off shorts and a skimpy halter neck I would be a huge target for outrage. Probably be jailed or beheaded or something. Why cos I am not respecting their way of life so I totally understand their outrage. Why is it that this does not work the other way round?

If you friend is being abused then blending in is a pretty sensible suggestion.

No, because I am not anti-Labour. 😂

Yep. This Labour gov are all those things.

Are they now? I asked for some examples to support this view days ago - good job I didn’t hold my breath.

Way to miss the point. The post you responded to is about BRITISH Muslim women. Born here. Fully British. And you talk about them 'wanting to live here' - well yes. It's their country as much as it is yours. We have freedom of religion too. And there absolutely are women who choose the hijab just as you choose modest dress. Comparing them to Afghan women is ludicrous.

@ILoveSeeingInterestOnMySavings

You are assuming that all Muslims are one homogenous group with identical ambitions and motivations. You couldn't be more wrong.

You think that my boss, British born and educated, fully integrated into British Society, two daughters at University, and working in a senior Government position with security clearance should be told not to wear her traditional headscarf because it makes her a target?
Since when has this British Culture of which you speak so fondly included the right to abuse people simply because they are wearing a headscarf indicating a religious belief?

And if her headscarf makes you feel uncomfortable that is a 'you' problem not hers.

Did we establish your experience or professional background?

I don’t recall.

Thanks.

It’s an ‘independent hobby website’ but I’ve looked at a few of its claims and they all check out. Full fact do one too - they have one pledge broken, but it’s t( sovereign wealth fund which is a ‘course of the parliament’ pledge so not sure why they are sure it’s broken. Anyhow. Give you that. It doesn’t make the manifesto ‘nonsense’ does it?
https://fullfact.org/government-tracker/

Does it include their progress with recruitment of the 6,500 state school teachers they promised?

Funded by PS vat income.

Thanks

The lowering of growth, lower business confidence, higher borrowing and digital ID scheme?

That’s a ‘life of the Parliament’ pledge. And given it takes a minimum of a year to train a teacher, assuming they already have their degree, you wouldn’t expect that many in 14 months would you? They couldn’t have started training until last month…

You said the manifesto turned out to be nonsense. It hasn’t, has it? What they said they’d do, they are doing.

It is nonsense because it’s nowhere near what’s happening, which I just listed. Are they in there? But if you give the next party in power the same leeway then great.

You mean they have to be new teachers? Not existing who have taken a sabbatical, or returning retirees, or post maternity, or freshly arrived from overseas?

How odd.

And how much have they raised from the PS VAT imposition to date, again?

You’re aware that manifestos simply list what a party will do, not how outside agencies might respond? I don’t have quite such a negative view of the effects of the manifesto as you, but it’s irrelevant really. They said they do a bunch of things. They got elected. They are doing the things. You may think they are the wrong things. The effect of the things may not always be positive. But the manifesto is just the things. They are doing them. Therefore the manifesto is not ‘nonsense’.

You think anyone who has got out of teaching would return 🤣?
Yes, they are going to need to be (in the very large majority) new teachers. And then they are going to have to work on retention. Teaching is a shit show currently, and that needs sorting.
Edit: post maternity teachers on the whole will still be teachers. They’ll have taken maternity leave. The person replacing them will not stay when they return.

Why does it not matter that digital ID wasn’t mentioned?

Sorry, missed some points.
It’s going to be harder to recruit teachers from overseas if you have to earn £60k to be allowed…
I dont think recruiting teachers from overseas is t( answer anyway. The curriculum in the U.K. is very specific and in my experience overseas teachers aren't really up to speed with it (fairly reasonably).
As for VAT on fees, it’s not really been going long has it? Takes a while to take money in. If it’s making such a big difference to people I’m assuming a fair amount is coming in though? I’m not really bothered where the funding comes from, and I think I recall it only ever being said it would be funded in part from VAT anyway.

I didn’t say it didn’t. I’ve not mentioned it. But all governments do stuff that wasn’t in the manifesto - and it’s not been done yet anyway. It’s being looked into currently.

Let’s assume you are right.

Why did Labour make their promise? Made a massive point of it in fact.

Its hard not to draw the conclusion that it was utter bullshit from Labour - let’s call a spade, a spade.

They made the policy fit their narrative.

One of envy and spite.

One reason I despise them, utterly.

We need more teachers. A life of the Parliament pledge to get to 6500, mainly by training more each year, seems sensible.
As it happens I don’t think they’ll get there unless they sort out the issues which are causing the recruitment and retention crisis.

Why is growth lower? Wasn’t that in the manifesto?

Same way they pay all these subsidies to shareholders
why do you want children punished, they didn't ask to be born into poverty.

Behave yourself.

Don’t bring them into an impoverished existence in the first place.

Take ownership.