Chance of a general election next year and Reform winning?

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They are winning in the polls it seems. I've been watching Nigel Farage's Instagram, he really just talks common sense. I find myself agreeing with a lot of what he says.
I'm definitely not far right and I'm not a leftie,
I think I'm somewhere in the middle.
But I am sick of Conservative and Labour and think it's time to give a new party a chance, especially if they are going to properly tackle illegal immigrants coming over and the ones that are already here.
I don't necessarily agree with his call to deport those with Indefinite leave to remain however.

Read your post back, first sentence! Very rude.

You said Labour had created more appointments. More than when? What are you comparing to?

More than the year before.
The rate of increase has slowed, it hasn’t become negative, so there are more appointments this year than there were last, but not as many more as there would have been if the rate hadn’t slowed.
My first sentence wasn’t rude, it was pointing out another, similar, misconception.

Remedial maths? How nice.

Ah - @TheNuthatch i think I spy the problem.
You are misreading the graph you shared. It doesn’t show numbers of appointments, it shows increases in the number. So you have seen the downward line and assumed it means fewer appointments. It doesn’t. It means the additional number of appointments over and above the year before is smaller.
This isn’t great, and I’d like to know why - it could be for good reasons, it could be for ones that could have been avoided. But the number of appointments is still rising.

You believe you're on the 'right' side? Dear me, what arrogance. It beggars belief.

There is no right or wrong side, we each have our own views and opinions on all things, including politics.

Exactly 👏🏻

Exactly what?
It’s wrong to hold different parties to different standards.
Labour hasn’t broken any manifesto promises.
So what are you liking here?

No. I'm not misreading anything thank you. Please stop insulting my intelligence.

You wrote a post in which you said "there are many more NHS appointments already". You painted that as if it had improved under Labour, as Labour have also been doing.

I replied and wrote that the rate of increase in appointments had actually slowed under Labour compared to the year before under Sunak, and linked an article to show it.

Yes I do think I'm on the right side. The side that doesn't throw insults and labels at those I don't agree with.
How's that for arrogance.

Since you ask. I am agreeing 💯 % wholeheartedly with this
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’Because other parties don't hold themselves up as being "transparent" or morally superior. Labour ran an election on ending Tory "chaos" and being the "adults" yet they have delivered nothing but chaos.
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They are mired in controversy, sleeze etc. It's their hypocrisy that people are angry at plus the constant gaslighting. What do you not understand about that?’

Labour might well get a new leader, as sometimes happens. But there is no way an early election will be called, no matter how much other parties thrash around.

It’s looking like Labour thrashing around, with their own problems.

Yes. But you understand that means there are, in fact, more appointments than there were? Because you asking ‘more than when’ suggests you didn’t. That’s what I was basing my comment about misinterpretation on. The rate has slowed. There are still more appointments than there were last year.

They absolutely aren’t mired in sleaze. Or controversy really - people disagreeing with the government isn’t big news. Happens all the time.

We are comparing it to the previous year. Because there are more appointments than the previous year. Because although the number of appointments is growing less fast than before, it is still growing. Is this disappointing? Yes. Does it mean Labour has failed to create more appointments? No.

<goes off to apply head to brick wall>

Want to borrow this?

We can agree they aren’t pursuing the things they should. I’m not sure I’d call it ‘thrashing around’ but they are letting Farage set the agenda. They should go off and do something genuinely radical on wealth taxes (and I mean wealth, not taxes on people who happen to earn quite a lot above average).

Aw thanks Blossom 👍
So kind of you to pile on.

🫣 What? You are embarrassing yourself.

Controversies over “malversation” and abuses of office have contributed to the Starmer government’s and the PM’s plunging unpopularity. Patrick Dunleavyoutlines the never-ending sequences of “bad governance” crises during 2024-25, and proposes some feasible solutions.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/after-recurring-sleaze-scandals-can-labour-regain-the-publics-lost-trust/

Mind you don't hurt yourself.
In theory, would there be more appointments today if Sunak had stayed in power?

@cardibach more info for you. Though this is a year old. Who knew it would get so much worse for Labour

‘Why Labour sleaze is worse than Tory sleaze

First, the [Labour] party is far more pious than the Conservatives ever were. In opposition, Starmer and his team were constantly making allegations that the Tories were breaking the rules. They demanded inquiries and investigations of every possible infringement and painted a picture of a government that was completely corrupt. The amount that Johnson spent on renovating the flat at No 10 was turned into a huge political issue. Now it turns out that different rules apply to Labour ministers. It is fine for Starmer and his team to take gifts, for reasons that are never quite explained. It is hard to escape the charge of hypocrisy. ‘

https://moneyweek.com/economy/uk-economy/labour-sleaze

Unlikely given his refusal to bring the junior doctors’ strike to an end.

‘All these Labour developments have contributed to 75 per cent of the public now viewing all politicians as “just the same” on corruption and sleaze.’

A blog?
There have been a couple of things blown up into scandals but dealt with. Nothing anywhere near the scale of the last Tory government. They objectively aren't ‘mired in scandal’.

That basically says they are judging on different standards for Labour. If you look, that’s what I’m arguing against. And I don’t think anything truly scandalous has been found anyway. Things I don’t like and which shouldn’t have happened? Yes. Scandalous? Nope. And immediately dealt with.