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What do you think about proposed ID cards?

286 replies

RosieLeaLovesTea · 25/09/2025 20:07

I am not sure what I think about proposed ID cards?
does the UK public want it?
how much it is going to cost to bring them in?
what are the positives and negatives?

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peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:05

DontReinMeIn · 26/09/2025 10:03

The government aren’t interested in you

😂

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 10:05

DontReinMeIn · 26/09/2025 10:03

The government aren’t interested in you

How funny.

Chiseltip · 26/09/2025 10:05

RosieLeaLovesTea · 25/09/2025 20:07

I am not sure what I think about proposed ID cards?
does the UK public want it?
how much it is going to cost to bring them in?
what are the positives and negatives?

Positives

Absolute oversight into every aspect of your life, the Government will wet itself at the surveillance capability.

The ability to deny service or autonomy remotely, without recourse. The computer literally says no. The Government will wet itself at the surveillance capability.

The ability to control your movements, you will be required to scan your I.D as a means of access to virtually all services and amenities. Big protest planned for Saturday? They will simply deny access to public transport when you scan your I.D as you try to walk onto the train platform or get on that bus. The Government will wet itself at the surveillance capability.

When you buy anything you will have to present your I.d card. This already happens in many other countries. Try buying a fridge in Mauritius, over there you have to present your I.D card. The Government will wet itself at the surveillance capability.

Oh, you meant positives for UK citizens, yeah, there aren't any.

All the deluded posters saying that other countries have done it for decades, those I.D cards weren't digital!

This card will look all your accounts, movements, transactions, your whole life, available for scrutiny by the Government. Without a digital I.D there is no way for different departments to easily cross reference your details. A digital I.D will make this process seamless. That's why they want it to be digital, as opposed to an analogue, physical card.

Wake the fuck up people!

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 10:09

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 10:00

Here’s a list of countries with digital ID systems, based on established programs with electronic components (e.g., NFC chips, biometrics, or app-based authentication) as of 2025. This includes both fully digital systems and chip-enabled national ID cards used for digital services:
• Argentina
• Australia
• Austria
• Bangladesh
• Belgium
• Brazil
• Bulgaria
• Canada
• China
• Colombia
• Costa Rica
• Croatia
• Cyprus
• Czech Republic
• Denmark
• Estonia
• Finland
• France
• Germany
• Greece
• Hungary
• India
• Indonesia
• Iran
• Italy
• Kenya
• Latvia
• Lithuania
• Luxembourg
• Malta
• Mexico
• Netherlands
• Nigeria
• Pakistan
• Peru
• Poland
• Portugal
• Romania
• Singapore
• Slovakia
• Slovenia
• South Africa
• Spain
• Sweden
• Switzerland
• Tanzania
• Uruguay
• Vietnam

Iceland do too.

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 10:11

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 09:59

Yes

Do you have limits on what you’d let the gov have oversight of? What do you think of the Chinese system

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 10:11

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:02

The WEF have been cracking on haven’t they. Still, just 5 years until 2030 so…

2030 Armageddon?

SumUp · 26/09/2025 10:13

If the public wants services that are free at point of use, like the NHS, GPs,…ID that is simple to check and impossible to forge would help ensure only those entitled to the service free of charge could access it for free. It could also replace the E111 / GHIC that entitles British citizens to care within the EU.

It would make life harder for people living in the UK illegally, which I would have expected reform supporters to like.

Anyone who has a biometric passport already has a biometric ID. An ID card could be made using the data the passport office already holds.

Phobiaphobic · 26/09/2025 10:14

As someone without the genes for smart phones - never know where mine is, and if I find it, it's never charged, and even if it is, I can't do anything on it - I'm worried about the faff if we're forced to have ID on us at all times. What if you lose your phone, or it's dead?

DontReinMeIn · 26/09/2025 10:15

Phobiaphobic · 26/09/2025 10:14

As someone without the genes for smart phones - never know where mine is, and if I find it, it's never charged, and even if it is, I can't do anything on it - I'm worried about the faff if we're forced to have ID on us at all times. What if you lose your phone, or it's dead?

To be honest that’s on you to learn. Smartphones have been around for decades at this point. There are very few people who genuinely cannot use them.

hindsightisuseful · 26/09/2025 10:17

I’m not convinced it will stop the car washes, building sites and money laundering venues employing illegal workers

plus I don’t want to pay for this. I have a passport and driving license and am UK born

GentleSheep · 26/09/2025 10:18

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 09:52

Out of interest, are you a reform supporter?

I pretty much agree with all that @PrivacyDystopia has said and I am totally opposed to Reform and cannot abide Farage. So being anti-ID and pro-Reform don't necessarily go hand in hand. In fact I'm running out of political parties to support. Currently support Advance UK but very unkeen on any of the others.

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 10:20

GentleSheep · 26/09/2025 10:18

I pretty much agree with all that @PrivacyDystopia has said and I am totally opposed to Reform and cannot abide Farage. So being anti-ID and pro-Reform don't necessarily go hand in hand. In fact I'm running out of political parties to support. Currently support Advance UK but very unkeen on any of the others.

Parties on both sides have come out against, tg and some Labour even

the80sweregreat · 26/09/2025 10:22

Not read the whole thread , but are they going to charge for these cards? If so many won’t bother when you already have a passport and drivers licence.

twistyizzy · 26/09/2025 10:23

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 09:59

Yes

Funny because no other party has come out in support of it and many Labour MPs are also opposing it.
So unanimous opposition.

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:23

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 10:11

2030 Armageddon?

Agenda 2030, but similar

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:24

Phobiaphobic · 26/09/2025 10:14

As someone without the genes for smart phones - never know where mine is, and if I find it, it's never charged, and even if it is, I can't do anything on it - I'm worried about the faff if we're forced to have ID on us at all times. What if you lose your phone, or it's dead?

Lol that this is what worries you most

Londondreamer · 26/09/2025 10:28

Physical card is one thing - digital is another.

If hacked, you would become a non entity.

GentleSheep · 26/09/2025 10:49

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:24

Lol that this is what worries you most

This is why, at some future date, it will be an implant so you can't lose it!

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:51

You won’t be going out much so I wouldn’t worry about misplacing your phone. You’ll never be more than 15 minutes away 😑

SumUp · 26/09/2025 10:56

SumUp · 26/09/2025 10:13

If the public wants services that are free at point of use, like the NHS, GPs,…ID that is simple to check and impossible to forge would help ensure only those entitled to the service free of charge could access it for free. It could also replace the E111 / GHIC that entitles British citizens to care within the EU.

It would make life harder for people living in the UK illegally, which I would have expected reform supporters to like.

Anyone who has a biometric passport already has a biometric ID. An ID card could be made using the data the passport office already holds.

Can those of you who have concerns explain what would be different with a digital ID? The passport office and DVLA already have our information. Not to mention all that our smartphones hold!

JohnBullshit · 26/09/2025 10:59

Let's look at that list of all the countries with compulsory ID, digital or otherwise. How are they doing at reducing the numbers of illegal immigrants? Will traffickers really be deterred by this? I doubt it. Another expensive ruddy great white elephant is what this is.
If people want to say no to smartphones, that is absolutely their right. If it's a matter of choice rather than capacity, they can find ways around the inconveniences. There are many people who never get to grips with them, though. Don't tell me about your 108-year-old granny who has no problems. Good for her, genuinely, but I remember my ILs never really came to terms with them, however often they were shown.

justasking111 · 26/09/2025 11:00

DontReinMeIn · 26/09/2025 10:15

To be honest that’s on you to learn. Smartphones have been around for decades at this point. There are very few people who genuinely cannot use them.

Strangely the sale of low tech phones has risen. I know visually impaired people who can't use them.

TheCatsTongue · 26/09/2025 11:00

20 years ago ID cards were the solution to stop terrorism, 5 years ago they were the solution to stop Covid, 2 years ago they would boost the economy, today they are the solution to stop illegal immigration.

ID cards won't stop anything that they are claimed to. Blair is obsessed with them and keeps finding different excuses to introduce them.

Starwarsepisode3 · 26/09/2025 11:00

I’m not in favour at all.

I have signed the petition and I won’t be having one.

I am prepared to go to jail if necessary.

I will not have a digital identity card. I will show physical ID to any lawfully authorised person who asks me for it but I will not have compulsory card that it is mandatory to carry on me at all times.

Members of my wider family were spirited out of Germany just pre-WW2 and the fear is too ingrained in me.

And I know other countries have them. That’s part of why I turned down a job a few years ago.

Dbank · 26/09/2025 11:03

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:40

You’re happy to sacrifice your freedom? Incredible.

Are you happy for them to dictate where you travel, how much you spend, what you can spend it on, what you say online etc etc? Really?

They are not proposing to dictate where I travel, or what I spend or say.

They are proposing a simple mechanism that proves who I am and whether I have the right to be in the country and/or work.

With an estimated 1M+ people hiding in the UK, it sounds like a good idea to me.