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What do you think about proposed ID cards?

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RosieLeaLovesTea · 25/09/2025 20:07

I am not sure what I think about proposed ID cards?
does the UK public want it?
how much it is going to cost to bring them in?
what are the positives and negatives?

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peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:44

Indoctrination works hey. It’s why they want to abolish private schools. Total control of young minds.

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 09:45

It’s interesting how, in a time when people openly share almost every detail of their lives and their children’s milestones—from birth to their first day at school—on social media and other platforms without concerns for privacy or seeking consent, ID cards are seen as a privacy violation. Despite this, most European countries have ID cards and remain democratic while respecting individual privacy rights.

BernadetteJune · 26/09/2025 09:45

It is going to cost a fortune and there are better things for the Government to spend the money on.

TonTonMacoute · 26/09/2025 09:48

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:23

Wait until your carbon allowance and social credits kick in.

I can’t believe the naivety of people and shocked to read the support of this. It’s as though people loved being locked down and can’t wait for more of the same. Can people really not see where this is heading? It’s an open door to absolute totalitarian state control (and has absolutely ZERO to do with stopping the boats).

This has Tony Blair’s filthy greedy fingerprints all over it. He’s always wanted this. Apparently he’s already in talks with Larry Ellison’s Oracle and will no doubt hope to make lots of money if it ever comes to pass.

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:49

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 09:45

It’s interesting how, in a time when people openly share almost every detail of their lives and their children’s milestones—from birth to their first day at school—on social media and other platforms without concerns for privacy or seeking consent, ID cards are seen as a privacy violation. Despite this, most European countries have ID cards and remain democratic while respecting individual privacy rights.

Who’s everybody? Speak for yourself. Personally I didn’t put a single birth or pregnancy announcement on social media. Or my wedding. As far as the internet is concerned those things don’t exist…
But you’re right… most people seem to be not very wise or careful with their own interests, as this thread is starkly demonstrating.

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:50

TonTonMacoute · 26/09/2025 09:48

This has Tony Blair’s filthy greedy fingerprints all over it. He’s always wanted this. Apparently he’s already in talks with Larry Ellison’s Oracle and will no doubt hope to make lots of money if it ever comes to pass.

Tony Blair who bombed his way through the Middle East, spawning 1bn jihadis (number not verified) who now wants to rule Gaza? That Tony Blair? Can’t be him, he’s absolutely trustworthy and never has a hidden agenda…

TonTonMacoute · 26/09/2025 09:51

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 09:45

It’s interesting how, in a time when people openly share almost every detail of their lives and their children’s milestones—from birth to their first day at school—on social media and other platforms without concerns for privacy or seeking consent, ID cards are seen as a privacy violation. Despite this, most European countries have ID cards and remain democratic while respecting individual privacy rights.

Not many countries have digital ID cards though.

One country that does is Singapore, not one of the world’s leading democracies, in fact its had the same ruling party in power since the 1960s.

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 09:52

PrivacyDystopia · 25/09/2025 20:15

Reposted from another thread:

It’s a huge privacy concern. People should be really worried about the drip drip drip loss of privacy and autonomy that we’ve all been sleep walking into and this is yet another step in the direction of us being constantly tracked and monitored. It’s incredibly dystopian. I am very disappointed by the Lib Dems considering dropping their opposition to ID cards just because Ed Davies had a little jolly to Estonia and they told him how brilliant it was and it had no impact on privacy….how naive of him.

Some people may be comfortable with the idea of the idea of ID cards now (personally I don’t have that much faith in either our government or our justice system but others may feel differently). But what about if a hard right (or indeed hard authoritarian left) government got into power. And that's far from off the cards in the current climate/unstable world we are living in. Would you be as happy with ID cards then? Privacy is more important than ever.

And you need to think about how they could be used in the future once the infrastructure is in place, not just what the government say they will be used for initially. It could, for example, be used to track us when we move throughout different areas of the country as they do in China, or it could be used to access ANY internet, thereby monitoring all of your online use. And probably in a million ways we haven't even thought of yet as we've seen with the ways that online companies such as Google are harvested and using/selling data. This is a huge threat to democracy especially if a government gets in that is more authoritarian - how will people resist if they can be tracked everywhere, doing everything? Remember the resistance in France during the war, how would they have done that with the tracking methods available now? What would have happened to Jews in the holocaust if the Nazis had had this power - many, many more would have not been able to get away and been killed. Privacy is not just for now, you need to think about what iff the worst happens and I have no privacy, what then?

Plus you need to think about what data will be collected and by who and how securely it will be stored. As an example, in the US currently. there are private companies running some of their traffic AI cameras (which is a whole other privacy discussion for another day!), they take and store that data and sell it on to other organisations; the feeds they transport the data across are also not secure. So who will be running the UK'd digital ID scheme? Is our personal information secure? What else is being done with our personal information? Even if it's not being sold on, the UK government themselves have allowed multiple large data breaches - data online is never 100% secure. The more data that's out there, the more is linked with other data, the more our security and privacy is at risk.

This (horrifyingly) sounds like some sort of crazy conspiracy, but it's not. Start researching it yourself. Look at what Europe are currently trying to bring in at the moment (search for "Chat control" if you want to be horrified), that the UK have shown an interest in. We are on the verge of slipping into the plot of a dystopian film, and we need to be working to move things back, bringing in better protections for UK citizens, not taking a further step in the wrong direction! Privacy is a right, you ca't have a democracy without privacy, and people should be able to choose who has their data, where it goes and understand exactly what's been done with it. We are a long way form that, but in the meantime let's not slip further int the quagmire. Say NO to Digital ID cards!!!!

If you are concerned and want to do more research, check out the following websites:

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/basics/why-privacy-matters/

https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/

https://privacyinternational.org/long-read/5669/blurring-line-how-militarisation-tech-reshaping-our-town-squares

https://www.eff.org/

You can support Big Brother Watch's campaign against digital here:

https://bigbrotherwatch.org.uk/campaigns/no2digitalid/

And please please write to your MP if you want to protest against Digital ID.

Edited

Out of interest, are you a reform supporter?

Chiseltip · 26/09/2025 09:53

MrsLizzieDarcy · 25/09/2025 20:17

I don't see the issue. I also think we should have a national DNA register.

OK, post your bank details on here.

the80sweregreat · 26/09/2025 09:53

Awful idea. The billions it’ll cost could be put to better use.

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 09:54

TonTonMacoute · 26/09/2025 09:48

This has Tony Blair’s filthy greedy fingerprints all over it. He’s always wanted this. Apparently he’s already in talks with Larry Ellison’s Oracle and will no doubt hope to make lots of money if it ever comes to pass.

Absolutely to Blair, probably making more money somehow. Macron has probably been an influence too. Starmer is desperate enough to do anything if someone says it will help with boats. Digital ID won’t. It could sure up more Reform support though.

I don’t mean mn, @twistyizzyis right about 11% on here. Outside these threads more people will be against.

Nevertriedcaviar · 26/09/2025 09:55

It could, for example, be used to track us when we move throughout different areas of the country as they do in China, or it could be used to access ANY internet, thereby monitoring all of your online use

Your phone already does that.

twistyizzy · 26/09/2025 09:55

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 09:52

Out of interest, are you a reform supporter?

Out of interest would you support compulsory Digital ID if Reform introduced it?

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:55

TonTonMacoute · 26/09/2025 09:48

This has Tony Blair’s filthy greedy fingerprints all over it. He’s always wanted this. Apparently he’s already in talks with Larry Ellison’s Oracle and will no doubt hope to make lots of money if it ever comes to pass.

And Palantir. Honestly, people should really be very afraid of this enormous state overreach. They will be able to control every tiny aspect of our lives. It’s totally unacceptable. Those who don’t see it really need to read more.

HostaCentral · 26/09/2025 09:56

Well as others have pointed out, all our data is out there already.

Next time you go on holiday, your personal biometric data will also be available across Europe. Are you going to stop going on holiday?!

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 09:56

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:49

Who’s everybody? Speak for yourself. Personally I didn’t put a single birth or pregnancy announcement on social media. Or my wedding. As far as the internet is concerned those things don’t exist…
But you’re right… most people seem to be not very wise or careful with their own interests, as this thread is starkly demonstrating.

I didn't either so I am speaking for myself, kind peanutbuttertoast. I am simply stating a fact: the majority of people share their lives on social media, and it's a fact. It's amusing to see how people become paranoid about control when, on a daily basis, cookies and cards like Nectar and Tesco Rewards cards collect information to profile customers for marketing purposes. People who are now enraged that this is a way to control the population are honestly so naive about what they do on a daily basis of their data.

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:57

I’d be hugely relieved if Tony Blair’s motive was money.

Starmer doesn’t want to stop the boats.

The govt WILL stop you going on holiday.

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 09:58

It’s coming to every country. The EU is already progressing this.

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 09:59

twistyizzy · 26/09/2025 09:55

Out of interest would you support compulsory Digital ID if Reform introduced it?

Yes

EasternStandard · 26/09/2025 09:59

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 09:57

I’d be hugely relieved if Tony Blair’s motive was money.

Starmer doesn’t want to stop the boats.

The govt WILL stop you going on holiday.

And more. I wonder if those who are pro this scheme with Labour will still be if Reform get in.

twistyizzy · 26/09/2025 09:59

BurntBroccoli · 26/09/2025 09:58

It’s coming to every country. The EU is already progressing this.

We aren't in the EU.

Again, would you support this if Reform introduced it?

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:00

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 09:56

I didn't either so I am speaking for myself, kind peanutbuttertoast. I am simply stating a fact: the majority of people share their lives on social media, and it's a fact. It's amusing to see how people become paranoid about control when, on a daily basis, cookies and cards like Nectar and Tesco Rewards cards collect information to profile customers for marketing purposes. People who are now enraged that this is a way to control the population are honestly so naive about what they do on a daily basis of their data.

Ok if you want to believe that. The government doesn’t want ID cards so it can give you money off your laundry powder is all I’ll say.

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 10:00

TonTonMacoute · 26/09/2025 09:51

Not many countries have digital ID cards though.

One country that does is Singapore, not one of the world’s leading democracies, in fact its had the same ruling party in power since the 1960s.

Here’s a list of countries with digital ID systems, based on established programs with electronic components (e.g., NFC chips, biometrics, or app-based authentication) as of 2025. This includes both fully digital systems and chip-enabled national ID cards used for digital services:
• Argentina
• Australia
• Austria
• Bangladesh
• Belgium
• Brazil
• Bulgaria
• Canada
• China
• Colombia
• Costa Rica
• Croatia
• Cyprus
• Czech Republic
• Denmark
• Estonia
• Finland
• France
• Germany
• Greece
• Hungary
• India
• Indonesia
• Iran
• Italy
• Kenya
• Latvia
• Lithuania
• Luxembourg
• Malta
• Mexico
• Netherlands
• Nigeria
• Pakistan
• Peru
• Poland
• Portugal
• Romania
• Singapore
• Slovakia
• Slovenia
• South Africa
• Spain
• Sweden
• Switzerland
• Tanzania
• Uruguay
• Vietnam

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:02

Ninettas · 26/09/2025 10:00

Here’s a list of countries with digital ID systems, based on established programs with electronic components (e.g., NFC chips, biometrics, or app-based authentication) as of 2025. This includes both fully digital systems and chip-enabled national ID cards used for digital services:
• Argentina
• Australia
• Austria
• Bangladesh
• Belgium
• Brazil
• Bulgaria
• Canada
• China
• Colombia
• Costa Rica
• Croatia
• Cyprus
• Czech Republic
• Denmark
• Estonia
• Finland
• France
• Germany
• Greece
• Hungary
• India
• Indonesia
• Iran
• Italy
• Kenya
• Latvia
• Lithuania
• Luxembourg
• Malta
• Mexico
• Netherlands
• Nigeria
• Pakistan
• Peru
• Poland
• Portugal
• Romania
• Singapore
• Slovakia
• Slovenia
• South Africa
• Spain
• Sweden
• Switzerland
• Tanzania
• Uruguay
• Vietnam

The WEF have been cracking on haven’t they. Still, just 5 years until 2030 so…

DontReinMeIn · 26/09/2025 10:03

peanutbuttertoasty · 26/09/2025 10:00

Ok if you want to believe that. The government doesn’t want ID cards so it can give you money off your laundry powder is all I’ll say.

The government aren’t interested in you