Why was it mostly men on the march?

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I've seen quite a few photos of the march yesterday, and they pretty much all look like the one below. Vast majority men. Why is that? Why is Robinson's patriot messaging and call-to-action landing mostly with men and not women?

Voting by sex wasn't massively different in the last general election - men were certainly more likely to vote Reform, but not by a huge amount, so generally politically we're not that different.

This.

So if it was 99% peaceful, injured policemen are the fair price to pay. How very Charlie Kirk like.

I know quite a few women who went. I do quite like this post and how you’ve mentioned that it’s all or mainly men that went as we can argue and also ask the same question back about how come it’s all or mainly men coming over on the boats and those saying that it’s because they are all thugs that went to that march are we allowed to say that all the men On the boats are terrorist! Seriously the double standards of you lot are astounding 😂

I find the video pretty scary TBH, reminds me of those white supremacy german videos of the 1930's used to recruit youths to the nazi cause full of white people dresses in ledenhoses and blond kids while praising aryan culture and very outdated values.

shudders

Miriam Margoyles fan you say. Not surprised.

Not fully formed ones, no. I'm working on it, hence this thread.

I did post this thread a week ago https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5406175-if-you-dont-care-to-think-of-girls-and-women-as-persons-with-agency-then-think-of-them-as-resources
about a tweet that was retweeted by Tommy Robinson which started
"If you don’t care to think of girls and women as persons with agency, then think of them as resources—incredibly valuable resources that you, as a resource-oriented male, would be foolish not to protect. In fact, they are the most valuable resource. Without women, you cannot have offspring to perpetuate the survival of your clan."

So if the sorts of men who follow Tommy Robinson are also the sorts of men who 'if you don't care to think of girls and women as persons with agency' might apply to, then I guess that might explain why fewer women might be engaged with the messaging and marching.

And perhaps if the men on the march are less likely to think of women as persons of agency, their wives are more likely to be at home, being resources?

Because it's just an excuse for thuggish men to behave exactly like that

Yep. Yobs and thugs will take any opportunity to cause aggro, and a lot of them will just piggy-back onto whatever cause happens to be available.

I agree that there are many people who have feelings about genuine patriotism, genuine concerns about immigration, etc. just as Brexiteers included a wide range of people alongside Farages Blue Passport supporters.

But TR himself is a criminal. With a background in deliberate organised football hooligans. I know people whose partners go on all these sorts of causes:Millwall / cenotaph/ TR etc and they are 100% thugs.

There’s a Critical Mass.

It would be better if there was a sensible way to discuss concerns that didn’t attract a critical mass of thugs.

But you really can’t deny their leading involvement. Starting with TR.

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Also, for those who have pointed it out, it is as significant to mention that they were (almost) all white as it is to mention that they were (almost) all male. It shows the target demographic of Tommy Robinson et al. And the racial divide it has caused.
It’s hardly ‘uniting the kingdom’ when everybody looks the bloody same is it?

Double standards as usual when Tommy knew of 22 nonces within his EDL movement.

This. Football training, ballet lessons, swimming, food shopping. I would have been doing all those type of things on a Saturday. If I'd been at work all week as well the last thing I would have wanted to do was travel from Worcester to London and spend the day at a thing that most people would know was very ' male heavy' and would involve violence at some point.

I’m sure this happened 😂

I didn't bother asking why they were majority white because I think that's obvious.

They all seem to be right wing. They might not let their wife attend.

Yes, I know what you mean! -- there is a strong element of nostalgia for a lost world. But Nazi propaganda portrayed a world that had never existed and invented a race that had never existed. This recalls a world experienced by many within living memory, that has rapidly changed beyond recognition.

It's a complicated issue I think, and I don't think it helps to dismiss everyone expressing concern as a bunch of ignorant morons.

This happens on non protest days. So im not sure why you would doubt it.

Would non white people be so likely to march against immigration?

Funny how 'its all men, where are the women and children, they're all thugs' is a concern here but the undocumented MEN with no women and children arriving in boats aren't 🤔

Anyone who chooses to go on a March organized by little Tommy ten names. At which Musk invites overthrow of our democratically elected government is a racist traitor. The end

Indeed, but some others here have taken offence when it has been mentioned 🙄

I see. The police stopped people going on the apparently agreed route so it was ok to injure them. Understood.

@spookysoulbut they say the same about illegal migration… all non white mostly male so are they right in thinking they must be terrorists as you are thinking that all the marchers must be racist thugs ??

@Donttellempike March organized by little Tommy ten names

😂

That’s… my point?