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Why was it mostly men on the march?

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noblegiraffe · 14/09/2025 09:48

I've seen quite a few photos of the march yesterday, and they pretty much all look like the one below. Vast majority men. Why is that? Why is Robinson's patriot messaging and call-to-action landing mostly with men and not women?

Voting by sex wasn't massively different in the last general election - men were certainly more likely to vote Reform, but not by a huge amount, so generally politically we're not that different.

Why was it mostly men on the march?
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Shedmistress · 14/09/2025 10:55

juldan · 14/09/2025 10:49

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From BBC:
“Assistant Commissioner Twist said officers had suffered broken teeth, concussion, a prolapsed disc, a head injury and a possible broken nose.”

Yes, it really went well, didn’t it? Very peaceful. Something to be proud of.

But maybe some right wing activists believe that having some injured policemen is the fair price to pay to preserve their “rights”.

If it was just the police getting injured, maybe it was the police that caused the issues?

vegetarianlouise · 14/09/2025 10:57

Livelovebehappy · 14/09/2025 10:52

Maybe they were leaving their wives at home out of potential danger....I heard on a post yesterday that there were people who actually took their children on the counter protests - unbelievable...

Stop making up stuff. I live in London and went to the counter protest and saw not one child which i thought was strange because lefties tend to bring their kids to protests (at least thats been my personal experience), Not this time, it was all full on adults, and i believe there was a reason for it.

noblegiraffe · 14/09/2025 10:58

SeaAndStars · 14/09/2025 10:45

I read a report yesterday that the marchers were 70 - 80% men and almost 100% white. I will try to find it and post it.

Potential reasons for more men there -

  • Tommy Robinson comes from a football hooligan firm background and so this is perhaps the audience his message meets first.
  • White men feel they have most to lose from immigration - "When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression"
  • At last year's riots many attendees (30% I think) were already known to the police for domestic violence. Perhaps women were put off by the threat of this coupled with the football firm element.
  • Men are perhaps more attracted to the crusader in chain mail, pit pull type imagery being used by Tommy Robinson, Elon Musk and their ilk.

Thanks for attempting to answer the question!

Agree that the aggressive imagery is male-oriented. Re the football hooligan thing, I think obsessively supporting your 'team' which is common in football is also similar to the 'Patriot' vibe. I'm not sure the march looks that different to outside a football stadium on match day.

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MyHeartyCoralSnail · 14/09/2025 10:58

I saw lots of women on tv of all ages. But some situations attract more men than women. I go to lots of heavy metal concerts. For most I would estimate about 1 in 25-50 (depending on type of metal/location) are women.

White men are probably the most disenfranchised by the left ideology so it makes perfect sense for them to find a home in a movement challenging that ideology. It’s not difficult.

Digdongdoo · 14/09/2025 10:59

Emsie1987 · 14/09/2025 10:49

She didn’t know he was going and had plans. Also, she understands and to a point agrees with the march but not passionate enough to go. To be honest it was a bit of a shock when I was told too. I also had the opinion that it would lead to a violent out break so spent the whole day watching live feeds worrying about him and hoping he be would back in time to babysit his grandkids as me and my husband were going out together for the first time in a year lol.

We don’t really discuss politics in our family - I know people’s opinions but it’s not ranted about or spoke with passion. So was pretty surprised he went.

She didn't know he was going? He was proud and passionate he didn't even mention it to his wife? That's so odd.

Dippythedino · 14/09/2025 11:00

noblegiraffe · 14/09/2025 10:52

I'm sorry that the marchers made you feel unsafe. That's totally unacceptable.

Thank you but that was the whole point of the march; the huge turn out was to make on lookers feel uncomfortable and scared. Mosley's Fascists followers did exactly the same thing 100 odd yrs ago. They turned out in huge numbers wearing the same uniform intending to intimidate even if they weren't violent on that occasion.

Skodacool · 14/09/2025 11:00

ElCorazon · 14/09/2025 10:12

I was thinking about going but I had a pile of laundry that had to be tackled and cooking too 😃
I was also a bit worried about possible erupting violence and thuggish behaviour from the woke leftie opposition, so gave it a miss. But I was there in spirit!

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If you read a paper or watch news you will find that it was a group from the Robinson march, generally considered to be right wing leaning, that got through and attacked the other march. It was not the ‘woke leftie’ group that caused the trouble.

Usernameunavailableagain12 · 14/09/2025 11:01

juldan · 14/09/2025 10:49

@Usernameunavailableagain12

From BBC:
“Assistant Commissioner Twist said officers had suffered broken teeth, concussion, a prolapsed disc, a head injury and a possible broken nose.”

Yes, it really went well, didn’t it? Very peaceful. Something to be proud of.

But maybe some right wing activists believe that having some injured policemen is the fair price to pay to preserve their “rights”.

Ah you got your info from the biased bbc 😂
did they also report that the day was 99% peaceful? That they held a tribute to Charlie Kirk? The media can’t even report the number of people in attendance correctly.

BrinkWomanship · 14/09/2025 11:01

I went to last week’s March against antisemitism. 70,000 men and women (very much an even split) of all ages marched past the BBC (not that they or many mainstream news channels reported it) all the way to Parliament Square. The only arrest was one pro-Palestine protestor who verbally and physically assaulted a person on the march. There were British, Israeli, pre-revolution Iranian and Welsh! flags flying.

Very few people brought their children. We discussed it and all felt it was too unsafe to expose them to the potential of being attacked. We were all happy to be proved wrong.

It is perfectly possible to march, make one’s presence felt and support British values without hiding one’s face and/or resorting to violence. It’s perfectly possible for both sexes to march safely too.

Yesterday’s march tapped into many people’s concerns about the cost of living, the government’s obtuseness / ineptitude and the immigration of too many people who don’t share our values. (Note I’m not saying immigration is a bad thing, because it isn’t.) The fact that yesterday’s freedom of speech festival was organised by Tommy Robinson should have rung alarm bells for many. Unfortunately it didn’t.

I think many men feel emasculated and frustrated. They want to provide for their families and are struggling. The macho culture around TR feeds into this and marching helps these men feel like they’re able to do something to make their voices heard. The violence is unacceptable. It always is.

Why was it mostly men on the march?
Beachtastic · 14/09/2025 11:01

I know a guy who went. He's a gentle soul, not racist, hardworking, puts his wife and family first but would do anything for anyone if he possibly can. He shared this on FB to explain his reasons. I hate to think of him being dismissed as a lout, it's more complicated than that.

www.facebook.com/reel/9097202147051223

Bulbsbulbsbulbs · 14/09/2025 11:01

Because a lot of them are thugs looking for a fight. The trouble is, these thugs looking for a fight are gaining traction. Just like they did in 1930's Germany. It is terrifying.

Farage is rubbing his hands.

JesseMum · 14/09/2025 11:01

These are despicable stupid racists. But l spotted lots of middle aged women in the crowd

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 14/09/2025 11:02

Dippythedino · 14/09/2025 11:00

Thank you but that was the whole point of the march; the huge turn out was to make on lookers feel uncomfortable and scared. Mosley's Fascists followers did exactly the same thing 100 odd yrs ago. They turned out in huge numbers wearing the same uniform intending to intimidate even if they weren't violent on that occasion.

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And when people march waving the Palestinian flag, do you think the purpose is to drive antisemitism and anti west feeling? Because that’s how I feel.

Anchorage56 · 14/09/2025 11:03

OP do you have any thoughts on why you thought it was mostly men ?

sciaticafanatica · 14/09/2025 11:04

@Dippythedinobut that wasn’t the point of the March at all.
so it just goes to show that you had already decided what the marchers were like!
the point of 110k people marching was honestly not to make onlookers feel intimidated.
it really wasn’t.

MyHeartyCoralSnail · 14/09/2025 11:05

JesseMum · 14/09/2025 11:01

These are despicable stupid racists. But l spotted lots of middle aged women in the crowd

Do you believe that people on save Palestine marches precarious disposable anti semites who support anti western ideologies espoused by terrorists?

Winter2020 · 14/09/2025 11:06

BlueSkySunshineDay · 14/09/2025 10:03

Red faced gammons.

It's OK to use skin colour to cause offence if we are talking about white people yes?

juldan · 14/09/2025 11:08

Shedmistress · 14/09/2025 10:55

If it was just the police getting injured, maybe it was the police that caused the issues?

Yeah, you explained it brilliantly. The police injured themselves for the sake of it. Sure.

Antimimisti · 14/09/2025 11:08

Quite possibly because of the danger of it turning violent, and women feeling less confident of being able to cope in that environment.

Julen7 · 14/09/2025 11:08

sciaticafanatica · 14/09/2025 10:40

I think a lot of people are pissed off that it didn’t turn in to a violent riot.
they are not happy that for the size of the March that it wasn’t as bad as they wanted it to be so they could prove a stereotypical point!

Pissed off that it was such a success.

Winter2020 · 14/09/2025 11:10

crackerjackbaby · 14/09/2025 10:09

I was in central London yesterday. Absolutely not a part of this ridiculous march though. I did notice that all the men on this march looked and sounded the same: overweight, white, terrible teeth, covered in tattoos, smoking, drunk, perving, vile, shouting, pissing in the street, embarrassing themselves. I was ashamed to be English yesterday.

Would you be comfortable making that list if it started "overweight, black, terrible teeth.... " ? just asking.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 14/09/2025 11:10

noblegiraffe · 14/09/2025 09:48

I've seen quite a few photos of the march yesterday, and they pretty much all look like the one below. Vast majority men. Why is that? Why is Robinson's patriot messaging and call-to-action landing mostly with men and not women?

Voting by sex wasn't massively different in the last general election - men were certainly more likely to vote Reform, but not by a huge amount, so generally politically we're not that different.

Maybe for the same reason that we have an awful lot of male asylum seekers arriving by boat. Women and children stay at home when there is perceived danger - and large crowds of angry people would certainly indicate the danger of crushing, loud noises and the potential for violence.

I would fully expect the family that stayed at home feel the same as the men though as women and children have had their own peaceful marches elsewhere.

Uricon2 · 14/09/2025 11:10

Usernameunavailableagain12 · 14/09/2025 09:58

I wish I was there, wouldn’t have gone though. It was great to see it online, they held a minutes silence for Charlie Kirk and honoured him so beautifully. I see the media tried to down play the number of people in attendance 😂

I've seen more than one claim by the faction supporting the march that it was 3 million, which is far more ludicrous than anything the "counters" are claiming.

As a matter of interest, the Countryside Alliance got 400K out in 2002 to (mainly) protest the ban on hunting with dogs.

Shedmistress · 14/09/2025 11:10

juldan · 14/09/2025 11:08

Yeah, you explained it brilliantly. The police injured themselves for the sake of it. Sure.

No, they apparently stopped people walking over the bridge on the agreed route and kettled them.

I didn't say they hit themselves. Why must people just make stuff up all the time?

chilliheeler123 · 14/09/2025 11:11

I went into London yesterday to see Miriam Margolyes, there were some people on the train who were clearly off to the march. Already drunk by lunchtime, practically beating their chests in delight when anyone who wasn’t white got on the train as they knew their presence would be intimidating. All men. Probably some women on the train also going to the march, but I didn’t spot them as they were not nearly so performative.

I feel my own evening was far better spent Grin

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