Why was it mostly men on the march?

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I've seen quite a few photos of the march yesterday, and they pretty much all look like the one below. Vast majority men. Why is that? Why is Robinson's patriot messaging and call-to-action landing mostly with men and not women?

Voting by sex wasn't massively different in the last general election - men were certainly more likely to vote Reform, but not by a huge amount, so generally politically we're not that different.

@CupOTeaFather but it didn’t stop him pumping millions into the presidential campaign of a sex offender so he does not mind white sex offenders.

I'll admit, until I saw The News on TV yesterday I'd never heard of Tommy Robinson and had no idea there was going to be a demonstration in London.

Please explain how someone can racially insult someone of the race they belong to themselves.

Insults and slurs based on skin colour, related ethnicity to that skin colour and attaching generalised negative traits to it is racist, however you want to try and spin it.

I didn't say the right is a single entity.
Perhaps you could enlighten me on the who's, how's and why's. Because I genuinely don't know. We haven't had a left wing government for long, and there's plenty of right wing media outlets. So I'm not sure how anyone has been silenced.

I told you earlier what I saw with my own eyes yesterday and so has @darklady64 , who also attended and whose experience concurs with mine.

Are you going to respond to my post?

Have you spent 15 years beneath a rock?

incel gathering.

But it’s a term used to try to close people down. As evidenced on this thread, the left are getting increasingly frustrated that people against immigration aren’t reacting to the label of racist and bigot being thrown about, so are trying to dig into their other ‘ripostes’ for something that might carry the same weight as being called a racist used to have. It must be difficult for them to accept, but people can and do have different opinions. And not all people against immigration are Tommy Robinson supporters. Why is that so difficult for them to get their head round? Just accept that all will come well in the end. We are after all a democratic country. Whatever happens, people will then be confident that the right decisions will have been made in the interests of the majority.

OK, no worries. The data at your school training days may be a bit skewed but that's to do with groupings and reporting. Working class boys from all backgrounds have, on average, poor educational outcomes at 16. ( no one cares about the girls' data but that's a whole other thread!).

You could replace the "red" with a different colour when talking about a different race of people and that would be fine would it?
I don't think so.

We have a housing problem because in 2004 Blair lifted working restrictions s to latvia Poland etc and jack straw admitted it was a " spectacular mistake "

Because no one was even counted in we only saw the impact on us through a and e issues ,maternity wards closing , meals on wheels pulled to fund interpreters, and food banks and housing

Yes, I do take your point about trouble-makers on both sides and obviously being just one person, I didn't see everything that went on everywhere. I have only described things I saw from where I stood, but it was a big gathering over a large area, so stories of happy and peaceful gathering and mob fighting can both be true.

However, I didn't turn up to be vicious (and I wasn't). I went to provide a counter argument, and to show publicly that there is support for a counter argument. I reserve the right to support my views, just as the people on the other march were supporting theirs. Why should I stay home just because Tommy's boys are out and about? There was a chance of things getting out of control, as there always is when you have people gathering in those numbers, but I went hoping that, as the two marches were being kept slightly apart, it would all be OK. Probably hopelessly naive, but I didn't go hoping for a ruck.

I do agree with this. Why else go? It's just pointless, reminds me of rival after school gangs telling each other to fuck off.

Good god! I just Googled him (Tommy Robinson, that is). Why the hell would any right-minded person want to be associated with him?!

I see he's already served 5 prison terms, even though he's only 42. And why does he use so many different names?

Clearly he's a very nasty piece of work indeed.

But the people using that insult are not (in everything I've come across) a different race of people and there are some who seem as affronted by it as those on the receiving end of the N word. It is nonsense.

Because this is a free country and people are allowed to peacefully protest.

Well, it certainly looks like it, doesn't it!

Were your friends equally dismayed that this is exactly how the Jewish communities feel in London at the moment, but they go through the fear of going out most Saturdays when the Pro Palestinians do they weekly protests, not just one Saturday. Or don’t they really give a toss, only when it affects them?

Bless you 😍I think we'd all be much happier if we lived in your world.

(Not being sarcastic!)

But it's obvious it's not going to be peaceful with 2 groups who have opposing views. Why were their marches both allowed to end up in the same place.

You can't tell me there wasn't name calling and goading from both sides.

Three.
One pointing out that Tommy Robinson was advertising the march with the coded message 'Heil Hitler', because I wanted to counter the faux innocent threads about the 'freedom of speech' march that pretended it wasn't racist and organised by a racist.

One telling Elon Musk to fuck off because dear god he needs to fuck off

And this one, because it was something I was actually interested in discussing - particular as a teacher who is interested in what is radicalising boys.

I'm not sure Tommy would approve....

Isn't it weird how one side goes to promote it's side eg free speech ,anti immigration. But some form the other side go yes to say open borders all welcome but I'm also getting a sense they went to " educate " (reeducate the other side...)
Re education is very big in socialist/communist strategy.

If you’re a woman and you use such terms as for example hysterical/slut/whore/bitch to describe another woman’s behaviour is that or is that not misogyny? Even though you’re a women yourself. I certainly think so. If you think it is too (you should!) then you’ll understand why it’s racism. Actually the term is “internalised racism”. Look it up.

But most people avoided London like the plague this weekend, because of the planned protest. I know that everyone has the right to protest, but wouldn’t it have made more sense to just plan the counter protest on a different day? Today perhaps? That way both sides are getting their point across without the added potential of putting yourselves in a dangerous avoidable situation. If you don’t agree with something, fine, but does it necessitate having to attend on the same day with possible consequences?