Why was it mostly men on the march?

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I've seen quite a few photos of the march yesterday, and they pretty much all look like the one below. Vast majority men. Why is that? Why is Robinson's patriot messaging and call-to-action landing mostly with men and not women?

Voting by sex wasn't massively different in the last general election - men were certainly more likely to vote Reform, but not by a huge amount, so generally politically we're not that different.

I have attached an article about the rise of an anti immigration party in Japan.

Would it be fine to post a list of lazy negative stereotypes and attacks on the appearance of the Japanese people that attended an anti immigration rally?

I'm guessing that would be judged unequivocally racist. And guess what it's still racist when you do it to white people. But your contempt of white people that feel differently to you means you can't even see it.

Are you interested in dissecting the appearance of anti-immigration protesters in Japan? Their homelives? Whether they hold traditional gender roles? I'm guessing not because it is ok for other nations to want to protect their country, resources and culture by limiting immigration - it's only not OK for British people to want to do the same.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/25/japan-upper-house-election-sanseito-japanese-first

Why did some of the SYL supporters decide to ignore the route, seek out the counter demostrators and attempt to access the sterile zone keeping them apart?

I went on plenty of anti racist demos in my youth, the NF inevitably turned up. Their presence was kind of a given (and the police were often less scrupulous than now in how it was handled)

An antimigration rally in 96% Japanese Japan? Beggars belief. Intolerance isn't pleasant whoever is doing it.
But possibly you're confused, and quoted the wrong person. I haven't said a thing about anyone's appearance. You might make your point better if you tell off the right person.

Net migration was 431,000 in 2024.

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-to-and-from-the-uk/

https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2025/05/22/taking-a-look-at-what-is-driving-the-fall-in-net-migration/

The key reason for the housing shortage in the UK is the failure to build new houses especially those that have been taken out of social housing stock.

www.crisis.org.uk/ending-homelessness/key-homelessness-policy-areas/housing/housing-supply/

I'm old enough to have been in the Anti Nazi League in my youth and watching this is a depressing rerun of behaviour that is all too familiar.

Me too! But honestly, I think although some of this is familiar and based on bigotry, there is something different going on here.

Challenged yes. But not accepted as just another point of view that one can reasonably debate over a pint.

Someone who thinks that black and brown faces are synonymous with foreignness and a problematic presence in the UK is racist. They should be challenged. But their views should make them pariahs for any reasonable person. There should be absolutely no pretence that racists should be considered worthy of even a smidge of respect.

So your solution to the immigration/housing crisis is to keep building and building new houses? And if the population of the UK reaches 100 million we should just keep building to accommodate all these people? And if it reaches 150 million we should keep on building? And so on ..?
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I thought the march was about free speech? Just the Right get the free speech then?

I wasn't offering a solution. I was correction to the poster who said net migration was just short of 1 million.

Mostly men? Leaving their women and children unprotected from the roaming gangs of seually predatory "illegals"? The crime rate must have shot up while these Alphas were having their Fun Day. Heard one of them on the radio this morning saying what a great time he'd had and how Yaxley Lennon is terribly misunderstood. "It's coming. We've got firms everywhere" . Indeed so. It's nearly as much fun as the football used to be.

Well as they say, there’s what’s said on one side, what’s said on the other, and the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Reports indicate unpalatable behaviour on both sides. Stop trying to imply that the lefty protest was oh so wonderful - with everyone jovial, but respectful to all. That’s not the case at all. Why would anyone turn up in London when apparently Tommy Robinson’s march was going to be so vicious, if not to be equally vicious back. Surely they didn’t go expecting friendly banter? You could say that both sides had their share of trouble makers. Just more evident on TRs march due to greater numbers.

The right had been silenced long enough and they wanted to claim their voice back. The left had been exercising their free speech and harping on about fascist, nazis and racists at every opportunity and held their proverbial hands over the mouth of the right. This is the end of it.
If you don’t like it, tough luck.

You have said it's fine to stereotype white men if they are attending a rally organised by Tommy Robinson - which you have called "align themselves with" - it's right there in the quote history.

What, every single one of the up to 150,000 protesters?

It was a festival of free speech, was it not?

Or was it not quite free speech?

I'll carry on calling out racists. If you don't like that, then the solution is to stop being a racist.

How had they been silenced? Who has been stopping anyone from speaking? How had this been enforced?

I've not read any reports of 'unpalatable behaviour' from counter protesters. Can you provide a link please?

Did people expect the Robinson march to be vicious? I thought he'd called for peaceful protest?

Japan's a funny example because they have a very low rate of immigration (deliberately so) it's always been much more normal/socially acceptable to be against incomers from different cultures and government policy had always reflected this. The number of foreigners now is at a historic high... Of 3% .https://www.statista.com/topics/12765/migration-in-japan/#topicOverview

Its their country, they can do what they want. But clearly the sense of loss of culture/too much immigration is very seperate to the reality of how much immigration there is. Or the Japanese would be very happy with everything comparatively. And it's not the case that discussion has been suppressed there or that people with "legitimate concerns" kept getting called racist so were driven to the right.

So basically the rise of anti-immigrant movements in countries like Japan suggests there is more going on than people being "pushed to far" with excessive immigration or suppression of complaint.

I don't think anyone that knows about WW2 thinks Japanese people can't be racist/nationalistic.

Silencing not very effective if they managed to organise a march through London, with approved routes and police support?

No I didn't. A racial stereotype is not the same as a judgement of an ideology. Very different things.

What does Charles Kirk have to do with this protest though?

I was on the counter demo and we had blokes yelling and threatening to punch us in the face because apparently we’re fucking cunts. Were you proud of that?
I’ve got friends, Londoners born and bred, who were frightened to go out yesterday because of the colour of their skin. Were you proud of that too?
I despair.

I agree.The NF didn't invoke Christianity as a justification for a start and there is much else.

Exactly! A hundred years ago the UK population was around thirty million & today is nearing seventy million. I'm sure that if necessary over the next hundred years another 30-40 million people could be accommodated just as they were in the previous century. That's actually a very unlikely scenario though as the major problem for the UK is a declining birth rate so that without immigration the population would be falling with an increasing proportion of elderly & infirm population & deceasing number of workers paying tax to support them.