Why was it mostly men on the march?

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I've seen quite a few photos of the march yesterday, and they pretty much all look like the one below. Vast majority men. Why is that? Why is Robinson's patriot messaging and call-to-action landing mostly with men and not women?

Voting by sex wasn't massively different in the last general election - men were certainly more likely to vote Reform, but not by a huge amount, so generally politically we're not that different.

And the only suggestion the Left can give to tackle migration concerns is to pour billion of pounds into developing some sort of system where people can legally apply for asylum in the UK. Which is absolutely unworkable with the chancellor already having to find funds for a 50billion pound black hole. To work it would need all other countries on board to sort out some sort of joint distribution process, whilst most other countries just don’t have the appetite for it. And some on the left actually think ‘there’s nothing to see here - let them all in’ , although they try to gaslight light us into thinking they don’t want open borders.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15096841/Moment-Tommy-Robinson-protest-march-turned-savage-Unconscious-man-dragged-safety-police-thugs-batter-horses.html?ito=windows-widget-push-notification&ci=608003

There you go.

First off notting hill is 10 times the size of this march - no shit there will be more of everything good and bad. And why does that say only 9 arrests at this protest when the police say at least 24(so far)?

All that education and yet these people can argue that nearly a million people (net) coming into the country in one year has no effect on the availability of housing. Go figure.

Yes, I know what you're saying, and I share your discomfort about the video, but we're talking about yesterday's rally and the guy who shared this on his FB page (to explain attending yesterday's rally) is not remotely racist in the way you describe. I'm not sure if you got far with the video, but it ends with:

Do I have anything against people of other races? No.
Would I prevent them from coming into my home? No.
So what, then, is my gripe?
[...]
My gripe is that we were told, not asked... Every day we are told, again and again, how we are to be, and how our country is to be.
We're told by them. They're the class that has always set themselves apart. They're the class that has always taken whatever they wanted for themselves. And now they are the class that is giving England away.
Do we allow them to sell our heritage? Or is it time for us to speak?

I think with the increasingly global culture post-internet/easy travel, all cultures are feeling under threat of dilution/extinction -- you could even argue there's an element of it (fear of Western liberalism) behind the actions of Putin and radical Islam. A passionate grief for "the English way of life" is real, and I don't think it should be mocked, because that just drives people into the arms of the only people who will listen (Tommy!) 😬

British culture has always been enriched by immigration (I grew up dancing in the Jamaican clubs in Handsworth, which influenced my vinyl collection for 30-odd years!), but tensions are very different now. Poorly planned policy decisions have disproportionately affected "working-class" areas, and this is the frustration being expressed.

This Commons debate from May mentions that in the past 10 years, over 50% of the housing supply has been absorbed by migrants, and also discusses problems with social cohesion where communities fail to integrate.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2025-05-21/debates/C4FBB882-8B19-4CCC-8018-3790C5399C22/Immigration

God knows what we do about all this, but I think mocking and belittling those who felt strongly enough to take part in the rally is not going to help.

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It’s not the gotcha you were hoping for!….because it was all provoked and started by the..yeah, you guessed it right..leftists! Did you actually read the article you posted here?

God knows what we do about all this, but I think mocking and belittling those who felt strongly enough to take part in the rally is not going to help.

I'm not (and I don't think others are) mocking people who express their concerns in a respectful and measured way. The problem is that SYL , a convicted criminal and founder of the EDL organised that rally and attendance was implicit approval of him and his history. Look at the other speakers too and what they were saying

For many of us this is same old, same old far Right, draping themselves in the flag and ready for a ruck with anyone who thinks differently to them or Heaven forbid has a different religion or skin colour. I'm old enough to have been in the Anti Nazi League in my youth and watching this is a depressing rerun of behaviour that is all too familiar.

Where does that article state that "leftists" "started it"?

No it wasn't and you saying so won't make it true. 😂

As a for instance what part of

Met police chiefs blasted anti-migrant protesters for displaying a 'wholly unacceptable' level of violence - with at least 25 people arrested and 26 police officers injured, including four who were seriously hurt.

as only one example is about the counter protestors? Or is the problem that they dared to be in the vicinity expressing their right to freedom of speech. Thought your Tommy was all for that.

Erm. Did you actually read the article?

All a bit Ministry of Truth, isn't it?

It is quite clear. If there is a large demonstration planned by the right and leftists decide to turn up and snarl at them, then don’t be surprised the right will snarl back.
If you turn up uninvited at the house of your nemesis for a party, then don’t cry if they try and kick you out. Gatecrashers are not appreciated.

As i thouht, you made it up.
It's not gatecrashing. The far right doesn't own the streets of London. Freedom of speech innit. Goes both ways. Don't ask for it if you can't actually handle it.

I’m not a conspiracy theorist 😆 but in the same vein as your comment, there will also be sheep amongst us…

Provoked how exactly? As I and some other posters who were actually there have repeatedly pointed out, it wasn't the "leftists" who repeatedly tried to enter the area of the other rally by dodging down side streets, nor was I called a cunt by anyone on my rally. Nor did I hear anyone on my rally call anyone else a cunt. If their own rally was so uplifting and exhilarating, why did they leave it early to come to the opposing rally? For what purpose?

You said you don't believe anything unless you see it with your own eyes. So you're either a liar, a conspiracy theorist or have an extremely limited world view. Or a combination of the 3.

You do realise that there is a wealth of information online, not just the garbage spouted by the likes of the BBC.

For the love of all that's holy! The only snarling I saw was from flag-clad men who were already waiting on the Strand for our march to pass (again, if they were there to be inspired and to listen to the speakers on their rally, why were they all the way up on the Strand and not down in Parliament Square?). No-one from the SUTR march strayed into areas not designated for our march. The other side, however.....

And if your point is that SUTR should not have been demonstrating, hard luck. I too have my right to free speech.

So how do you determine what is garbage and what isn't? If you don't trust mainstream media, what metrics do you use? I'm assuming that must mean you dedicate vast amounts of your time to fact checking everything yourself?

Yeah ok then! I said I believe what I see with my eyes. I’m none of those things, not that I care about your judgment, irrelevant.

Oh so it was the fact that they had a counter demonstration that makes them responsible for injuries and vandalism by the other faction.

Any snarling that was being done was from the other end of Whitehall, until some of the SYL supporters decided to seek a closer proximity to the counter demonstrators.

Also, as of when is London exclusively for the use of far Right demos on any given day? It isn't "their house" (much as they would like it to be)

I could explain but reading your responses it’s clear that I have to go into some depth to educate you and I don’t have the time or desire to do so!

Of course. But I am interested to know which sources you use in case I am missing something. It really was a genuine question.

Ah another one who could explain, or could show me proof but they just don't want to. Common affliction on these threads.

You are fighting a losing battle. What was the woke brigade doing there at a demonstration organised by the right that was announced weeks and months before, on the same exact day? They were there to provoke. Of course it will lead to a clash. What were they expecting? Handshakes and smiles? 🤔