Why was it mostly men on the march?

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I've seen quite a few photos of the march yesterday, and they pretty much all look like the one below. Vast majority men. Why is that? Why is Robinson's patriot messaging and call-to-action landing mostly with men and not women?

Voting by sex wasn't massively different in the last general election - men were certainly more likely to vote Reform, but not by a huge amount, so generally politically we're not that different.

I was at the counter protest and can only confirm what I saw, but I agree - I did see (very few) women but all of them were with men - not in groups, with female friends or on their own, which was completely unlike the SUTR march.

This is with the caveat that I left when I first saw the police with helmets start appearing and managed to get to Embankment station, so the people I was walking past were those who had deliberately broken away and moved to areas they weren't supposed to be in so they could hurl abuse and try to provoke violence. I witnessed both, and it was not a small minority either.

The police I spoke to trying to get round to the tube station were without exception polite, helpful and good humoured, too. I hope all who were injured recover well.

A ratio of 60 men to 40 women is certainly not what is in those photos and videos though.

Although the marchers may be roughly a subset of Reform voters, they're certainly not a representative sample. The further right you go, the more male dominated it is??

If it was ‘representative of the country’ then about 1 in 5 of attendees would have been non-white.

I defy you to find a single image of a decent size sample of attendees (20+) which is anything close to 20% non-white.

If you believe what you read in the papers or watch on the news then more fool you. They serve only to feed the narrative that the government etc want you to believe. Wake up….

So what do you believe? Whatever randos on Twitter say?

But look at the demographic there. Women at a march for Gaza are much more likely to be left leaning and therefore more likely to be childfree, or have supportive partners who would have watched their children because they are less likely to be with men with ‘traditional views’ that were more likely to be at this weekends march. Traditional values do tend to go across multiple facets of life. I suspect a lot of women were concerned about this weekends march turning violent and also police arrests.

No, I’m not a sheep. I believe what I see with my own eyes.

And nothing else? So you disbelieve almost everything? If it doesn't happen in your vicinity it's bollocks? So how do you know the papers are lying?

And where did you see attendees of the SUTR protest attempting to access areas set aside for the other march, or violently attacking the police?

Please be specific, since I was there and did not see this happen. I've already described what I saw.

I'm sure you realise that statistics are pretty pointless unless you look at the back ground behind those statistics.

People in poorer areas are much more likely to have been negatively impacted by immigration as immigrants are likely to be housed in those communities. Therefore they are much more likely to be wanting to take action in this respect.

Educational attainment doesn’t necessarily equal intelligence regarding ability to understand the long term implications of immigration.

Going through the higher educational system means that a person is more likely to have been exposed to and indoctrinated into ideologies like socialism. globalisation, anti British sentiments. Stonewall etc. The subsequent career choices mean they have been often been constantly exposed to these ideologies and often continued employment/progression is tied to adherence to left rhetoric.

Oh dear🙄 I guess there will always be a few conspiracy theorists among us.

That's a viewpoint. Alternatively more education gives you better critical thinking skills so you don't buy into anti-immigrant rhetoric. The same was true of those voting for Brexit.

i see quite few clearly womens' faces in there. Also this is a man march because they want to show their teritorial interest in this land , marking it against foreign invaders

And the fact that they are all men should in itself raise questions.

And the sheer amount of women here weakly making excuses for them. People have incredible capacity to gaslight themselves. We all do, to some extent, depending on our bias.

That explains why there were loads of them pissing against walls in unison I guess.

Well, I am very highly educated, as are many of my friends. My job necessitates high levels of critical analysis skills. I (and many of my friends) voted for Brexit and see a massive issue with the current immigration position.

Literally marking their territory😂

also when you see : men looking like that...looking like what? These are strong nice men. What your partner looks like, may I ask? Tall, slim, blonde and manicured

Sorry, have posted this elsewhere but think it bears repeating. This is from the Daily Mail yesterday but a verbatim report of what was said

Other speakers included New Zealand Christian fundamentalist Brian Tamaki, who told the crowd: 'Christianity versus the rest. Islam, Hinduism, Bahai, Buddhism, whatever else you're into — they're all false. We gotta clean our countries up.
'Ban any type of public expression in our Christian nation from other religions. Ban halal. Ban burqas. Ban mosques, temples, shrines. We don't want those in our countries.'

One of SYL's keynote speakers on at this "free speech" demonstration.

I was very surprised to see someone I know, who went with her husband and shared pics on Facebook.

This information is being widely reported by all news agencies from the NY Times to the Evening Standard.

you don't sound highly or very highly educated

One of Tommy Robinson's key areas of focus is protecting women and children.

It's clear from the number of women who attended yesterday that they don't want protecting by Tommy Robinson and don't support the methods he proposes.

If they did they would have been there in their many thousands. Women certainly didn't hold back from attending Reclaim the Night marches in their thousands cross the world.

my DS went and actually said the same thing- it was peaceful and good natured. I didn’t want him to go, and I don’t support it- but it does sound like it wasn’t full of just thugs and racists as I had assumed it would be.

That's a lazy misogynistic generalisation if ever I heard one!

I've got about as much idea as you have about "wives and girlfriends" but there are plenty of women who aren't being told what to do and have made their own minds up - what a revelation eh, women thinking for themselves.