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Labour isn't working - Thread 7

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TheNuthatch · 03/09/2025 17:31

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 14:27

Plantatreetoday · 08/09/2025 14:18

🤣
I’m off to Google nuthatches now

Learning something all the time on mumsnet !

I shall forever think of you as a prancing lama 😂

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GabrielsOboe · 08/09/2025 14:42

I thought I had just stumbled on to the other ‘hostile’ thread!

Julen7 · 08/09/2025 14:44

Plantatreetoday · 08/09/2025 12:41

That’s lovely. 😻

id be tempted to post that on a Starmer thread 🤣

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Yes! Would it be appreciated do you think (they like cats) or no?

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Arrearing50 · 08/09/2025 14:57
Meerkat Lookout GIF by Nat Geo Wild

This is me, looking for Labour to have a good idea:

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 15:00

A little quote from across the channel on the burden of ever higher debt.

Shouting now, François Bayrou told lawmakers: “A turmoil is brewing for France, and forgive me for reminding you of this at this time. The problem, the threat, the risk for France will remain intact.

“Because, ladies and gentlemen, you have the power to overthrow the government, but you do not have the power to erase reality. Reality will remain inexorable. Spending will continue to increase even more, and the burden of debt, already unbearable, will become heavier and heavier and more and more expensive.”

Plantatreetoday · 08/09/2025 15:08

Julen7 · 08/09/2025 14:44

Yes! Would it be appreciated do you think (they like cats) or no?

I don’t think it would. It’s all in the stare
on a par with @Arrearing50 s meerkats 👏👏

CaveMum · 08/09/2025 15:14

Harriet Harman tells Radio 4 that the new Deputy Leader “must” be a woman.

Now I’m 100% behind moves to ensure more women in prominent positions across all sectors, but surely to goodness it must also be about actual merit and being the best person for the job?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c059z4g836eo

Angela Rayner

Rayner replacement as Labour deputy must be a woman, says Baroness Harman

Labour's ruling National Executive Committee (NEC) is setting the rules for choosing the new deputy leader.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c059z4g836eo

GabrielsOboe · 08/09/2025 15:17

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 15:00

A little quote from across the channel on the burden of ever higher debt.

Shouting now, François Bayrou told lawmakers: “A turmoil is brewing for France, and forgive me for reminding you of this at this time. The problem, the threat, the risk for France will remain intact.

“Because, ladies and gentlemen, you have the power to overthrow the government, but you do not have the power to erase reality. Reality will remain inexorable. Spending will continue to increase even more, and the burden of debt, already unbearable, will become heavier and heavier and more and more expensive.”

Yes - there are many parallels between the UK and France.

Contagion is an appreciable risk.

GabrielsOboe · 08/09/2025 15:18

CaveMum · 08/09/2025 15:14

Harriet Harman tells Radio 4 that the new Deputy Leader “must” be a woman.

Now I’m 100% behind moves to ensure more women in prominent positions across all sectors, but surely to goodness it must also be about actual merit and being the best person for the job?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c059z4g836eo

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Interesting that Harman is insisting on a ‘woman’, but not that they should be qualified/competent/not a tax cheat etc…

Arrearing50 · 08/09/2025 15:19

There are tonnes of women in the Labour cabinet…Rayner didn’t mess up the job because she was female either. ‘You do not have the power to erase reality’ needs to be ok a banner in the HoC voting booths

GabrielsOboe · 08/09/2025 15:27

The UK will suspend visas from countries that refuse to “play ball” on deals to take back illegal migrants and foreign criminals, Shabana Mahmood has said.

The new Home Secretary said the UK was prepared to “cut visas” for workers, students and visitors if their countries did not “play by the rules” and take back citizens who “have no right to be in our country”.

Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and Ethiopia were previously identified as failing to take back enough of their citizens whose applications for asylum in Britain have been rejected. However, Ms Mahmood did not name specific countries.

The new approach brings Labour into line with the Tories and Reform UK, which have adopted similar policies. It was agreed by the Five Eyes security alliance of the UK, US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, whose interior ministers were in London to met Ms Mahmood.

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 15:27

It’s an emotive speech. Feels far removed from our repeated ‘further and faster’ autobot Labour.

Bayrou that is.

twistyizzy · 08/09/2025 15:27

GabrielsOboe · 08/09/2025 15:18

Interesting that Harman is insisting on a ‘woman’, but not that they should be qualified/competent/not a tax cheat etc…

Yes, I just want the best person for the job irrespective of colour, race, background, ethnicity, gender etc.

The Left are so obsessed with all of the above that they overlook competency.

TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 15:37

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 15:00

A little quote from across the channel on the burden of ever higher debt.

Shouting now, François Bayrou told lawmakers: “A turmoil is brewing for France, and forgive me for reminding you of this at this time. The problem, the threat, the risk for France will remain intact.

“Because, ladies and gentlemen, you have the power to overthrow the government, but you do not have the power to erase reality. Reality will remain inexorable. Spending will continue to increase even more, and the burden of debt, already unbearable, will become heavier and heavier and more and more expensive.”

Thanks Eastern. Do you know what time the vote is? Fascinated to see how Macron plays this.

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EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 15:41

Even we get a mention

He then cited Britain’s tax decisions as a cautionary tale: “Our British neighbours decided to tax foreigners who were exempt from taxation. Those foreigners moved away, and the immediate consequence was an explosion in property prices in Milan.”

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 15:41

TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 15:37

Thanks Eastern. Do you know what time the vote is? Fascinated to see how Macron plays this.

Around 6pm I think

TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 15:41

CaveMum · 08/09/2025 15:14

Harriet Harman tells Radio 4 that the new Deputy Leader “must” be a woman.

Now I’m 100% behind moves to ensure more women in prominent positions across all sectors, but surely to goodness it must also be about actual merit and being the best person for the job?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c059z4g836eo

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Harman has now said that Lammy is the only man she would want in the job of deputy PM 🙄

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twistyizzy · 08/09/2025 15:43

TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 15:41

Harman has now said that Lammy is the only man she would want in the job of deputy PM 🙄

Ffs 🙄

TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 15:43

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 15:41

Even we get a mention

He then cited Britain’s tax decisions as a cautionary tale: “Our British neighbours decided to tax foreigners who were exempt from taxation. Those foreigners moved away, and the immediate consequence was an explosion in property prices in Milan.”

Ha ha! Using us as an example of how not to run an economy. Well done Reeves, your reputation has gone global.

Thanks for the info, will have a read up after work.

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TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 15:45

twistyizzy · 08/09/2025 15:27

Yes, I just want the best person for the job irrespective of colour, race, background, ethnicity, gender etc.

The Left are so obsessed with all of the above that they overlook competency.

Me too. Why is that so bloody difficult?

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Plantatreetoday · 08/09/2025 15:48

CaveMum · 08/09/2025 15:14

Harriet Harman tells Radio 4 that the new Deputy Leader “must” be a woman.

Now I’m 100% behind moves to ensure more women in prominent positions across all sectors, but surely to goodness it must also be about actual merit and being the best person for the job?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c059z4g836eo

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For me it should only ever be about merit
Sex is irrelevant

TheNuthatch · 08/09/2025 15:59

GabrielsOboe · 08/09/2025 15:27

The UK will suspend visas from countries that refuse to “play ball” on deals to take back illegal migrants and foreign criminals, Shabana Mahmood has said.

The new Home Secretary said the UK was prepared to “cut visas” for workers, students and visitors if their countries did not “play by the rules” and take back citizens who “have no right to be in our country”.

Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and Ethiopia were previously identified as failing to take back enough of their citizens whose applications for asylum in Britain have been rejected. However, Ms Mahmood did not name specific countries.

The new approach brings Labour into line with the Tories and Reform UK, which have adopted similar policies. It was agreed by the Five Eyes security alliance of the UK, US, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, whose interior ministers were in London to met Ms Mahmood.

More Reform-lite.
They'll be putting the navy in the channel next 😂

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Lutonsgirl · 08/09/2025 16:07

twistyizzy · 08/09/2025 15:27

Yes, I just want the best person for the job irrespective of colour, race, background, ethnicity, gender etc.

The Left are so obsessed with all of the above that they overlook competency.

Agreed. Yesterday I heard Andy Burnham saying he'd like a northern woman ffs...Labour need to think about competency, competency, competency.

Absentmindedsmile · 08/09/2025 16:09

EasternStandard · 08/09/2025 15:41

Even we get a mention

He then cited Britain’s tax decisions as a cautionary tale: “Our British neighbours decided to tax foreigners who were exempt from taxation. Those foreigners moved away, and the immediate consequence was an explosion in property prices in Milan.”

Uhm French idiocy / nastiness towards brits showing there. Shocker.

Non Doms aren’t ‘foreigners’ they’re just people who have a permanent residence outside of Uk for tax purposes. As in it refers to a person's tax status, and has nothing to do with their nationality or citizenship

👀

GabrielsOboe · 08/09/2025 16:11

Whichever way you slice it, it’s all looking rather bad for Labour, currently.

Personally, I am happy for it to continue to deteriorate - the sooner we have a ‘French’ moment, the better.

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