Why are governments putting women and girls at higher risk of sex crimes?

[Absentmindedsmile]

Fact: Hundreds of thousands of men are entering Europe (as in the continent), from countries where women and girls are second class citizens.
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Fact: The sex crime rate statistics associated with different nationalities living in the UK have been published. An example is provided below.
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….the [sex crime] rates, based on convictions per 10,000 of the population put Afghans, with 77 convictions, at the top with a rate of 59 per 10,000 – 22.3 times that of Britons.
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They were followed by Eritreans, who accounted for 59 convictions at a rate of 53.6 per 10,000 of their population.
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Britons accounted for 12,619 sex offence convictions, representing a rate of 2.66 per per 10,000 of their population in England and Wales.
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https://archive.md/6AXAy Archive version
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Fact: This example data blows up any erroneous claims from people suggesting that British men commit more sex crimes when numbers in the population are accounted for / are more likely to commit a sex crime.
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There’s above is factual data. It is not racist to provide it. To claim this, is quite simply, wrong. Perhaps it’s projection, the mind boggles.

To want ‘no debate’ and bleet on with incorrectly placed accusations of racism, is to shut down people’s valid concerns.

Tin hat on for the people who want no debate on this issue, and instead of protecting women and girls, insist on protecting men from countries where women and girls are treated as second class citizens.

More data has been promised.
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I stand by my claim. Your 'facts' have been debunked. Your claims about being involved in VAWAG don't hold true. You're not engaging with any discussion and now you appear to be making threats. I'm quaking.

Repeating this as ypu are still bleating on even though your facts are discredited
Vile

Hmm ok. I see you.

You keep banging on about "facts" as if you think they're important.

So why aren't you responding to question about the Sky News Fact Check which highlighted the many flaws in your "data"?

Well said

Is it just bots churning out all of these racist posts?

Who knows?! There are certainly a lot of them!

No. No facts have been ‘debunked’. You think they have because you want them to be.

They’re not my facts, they are.. facts.

And thank you posting without insulting. Makes a pleasant change.

Lots of people fleeing for their lives are not able to bring documentation with them

Hysterical coming from somebody who didn't read their own thread and falsely claimed something that had already been debunked at least 6 or 7 times prior to them posting it.

Anyhow, "fun" though this is, I am just going to repeat something I said on another thread, then I am going to leave you to your racist delusions (I believe that I am allowed to say that as I am certanly not suggesting you are a racist)...

A very long time ago, because I thought I ought to, I read Mein Kampf. At the time - long before the internet - it was not banned but impossible to find. So I sat in the reference library in Manchester and read their non-loanable copy. I have to be honest, it was something of a slog because Hitler was a bloody awful writer anyway. Beyond that, it would not be out of place on any current MumsNet thread like this.

At the time - I was 17 - I did not see how it got from Mein Kampf to the camps. 50 years later I do. And it's all on here. Every single last bloody inch of the journey from Mein Kampf to Auswitz is truckling along on MumsNet threads with gay abandon. And while Farage, just like Hitler, stokes the flames of hatred, people are taking their eyes off what else is going on.

"Drill, baby, drill" - those are headlines and policies to watch. While everyone is looking at the Channel, just as in Nazi Germany they looked at the Jews, the gays and the gipsies, the people to watch are the ones making vast amounts of money out of it. Farage does not give a shit about women and girls, and if there was money or capital to be made from it he also wouldn't give a shit about asylum seekers. Hitler wove a narrative out of prejudice and fear. Farage does the same. But for power and for money - not for "the people", not for "the British"... for himself and his friends.

I'll try again. Given that you don't think your facts have been debunked, please outline exactly you think the Sky Fact Check is wrong and you're right.

Uhm.. it’s not ‘my’ data. It’s .. data. I know you don’t like it. I know you’re one of those many people who will prioritise some men over the women of, well, the UK. The reasons are complex, granted.

So why aren't you responding to question about the Sky News Fact Check which highlighted the many flaws in your "data"?

it doesn’t fit their narrative, the facts are debunked by and show the telegraph has twisted the statistics

You haven't bothered reading anything that contradicts your world view. Data can be manipulated, especially by those with an agenda.

I didn't say they were persecuted just for protests. You mentioned protests and I responded to that prat of your comment. I do know that most of the asylum process is based on oral evidence and judged by a case officer on the basis of "likelihood" and assessed against established legal principles for refugee status. In other words, it's almost impossible to determine economic migrants from genuine cases. Very few asylum seekers have any written documentation to prove their claims or indeed any documentation full stop.

So why aren't you responding to question about the Sky News Fact Check which highlighted the many flaws in your "data"?

it doesn’t fit their narrative, the facts are debunked by and show the telegraph has twisted the statistics

so best to keep telling people they are unhinged

They’re not ‘my’ facts. Honestly this is the level of discussion you like isn’t it. Rather than a grown up debate. ‘My facts are better than your facts’. Jesus wept.

They. Are. Not. Facts.

I suspect that the op has 'Alternative Facts' . Not much point in debating with people like this as sadly they have been hoodwinked and can't see it.

We don't need no National Front, British movement or the Ku Klux klan ,it make me an angry man.
With a Nazi salute and a steel cap boot.
You follow like sheep in a wolves clothes.
The Specials record..why .
Recorded about 1980.
Why has fuck all changed.

It directly references some of the so-called data referenced in your OP. I take it from your response that you're not going to outline your reasons for disagreeing with the Sky News Fact Check because you don't actually have any arguments to counter the points that were raised in the article. That's OK, I didn't really think you would.

But given that you're the one wanting a "grown up debate" which emphasises facts, perhaps you might be grown up enough to admit that you misrepresented the data in your initial post. Perhaps unwittingly, perhaps not. Let's see how "grown up" you're actually willing to be.

@RingoJuice I get that, I honestly do. I posted when I felt emotional about the subject x

Keep repeating it every page or so - OP is wilfully ignoring you. Which is pretty much par for the course.

OP you have made a valiant attempt to raise awareness, but sadly again the thread has been hijacked by those who inexplicably prefer to throw insults rather than address the genuine very serious issues we are facing in this country.

You would be more credible (low bar) if you engaged with a PP's post linking to analysis showing your facts are at the very least disputed. Do you really want a grownup debate, OP?