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Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

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Silverbirchleaf · 24/08/2025 22:13

I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

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Pieceofpurplesky · 25/08/2025 00:54

Toothfairyat230 · 24/08/2025 23:38

I don’t think this is motivated by racism.
Are you aware that the current increase in flag displaying is in response to a council in Birmingham who’d been taking them down.
It’s just rebellious flag waving.

So the men painting crosses on the shops and harassing a woman and her child by calling her 'rag head' were just being rebellious and not racist?
Come on - it's an excuse to be racist that a huge amount of ignorant people have been waiting for. The people who like to blame everyone else for their shit lives - a few years ago they hated the Polish, now it's the 'illegals' and the 'boat people'.

AppleKatie · 25/08/2025 00:55

EmeraldRoulette · 24/08/2025 23:39

where are you seeing this behaviour?

The Covid messaging was obviously coordinated by governments. I'm completely open minded on whatever you have to say by the way.

Local fb groups which genuinely used to be harmless local chat have become about organising protests or complaining about ‘immigrants’ (they use other words I’d rather not repeat)

flags put up behind my house on every lamppost and people talking in public about how ‘they’ don’t like us flying our flag, but we must stand up for our country’

in my local expensive gym jacuzzi a man tried to engage me in conversation about how terrible the immigrants are and how they are ruining the town.

Reform meetings happening in local churches.

ElizabethDavid · 25/08/2025 01:00

JustSawJohnny · 25/08/2025 00:50

I won't be shaking, crying or pearl clutching.

I will absolutely be judging, though.

Judge away. If you are not happy emigrate.

ViolaPlains · 25/08/2025 01:02

There’s lots of flags appeared near where I live in the north west. I think people are genuinely using it as a way to show their dissatisfaction. Labelling them right-wing drunks won’t solve any problem.

Silverbirchleaf · 25/08/2025 01:04

ElizabethDavid · 25/08/2025 01:00

Judge away. If you are not happy emigrate.

British irony!

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Pieceofpurplesky · 25/08/2025 01:06

Sunflower3332 · 25/08/2025 00:45

Well they're not homeless and living on the streets like so many people who were born and bred in this Country are they?, and they certainly won't be without heating come the winter months like so many of our pensioners either.

So really you should be 'applying critical thinking' and see what's actually going on, and it's only going to get worse.

Only pensioners yearly increase was more than the winter fuel allowance and year on year deaths of pensioners was down.
I feel desperately sorry for homeless people on the streets, much more should be done rather than relying on charities BUT some of those people won't accept help as they are too far gone in their addiction (see the man in Birmingham with the injured leg who refused to go to hospital). You can't compare one with the other. Everyone deserves to be treated with kindness and compassion.

ElizabethDavid · 25/08/2025 01:09

Silverbirchleaf · 25/08/2025 01:04

British irony!

You can emigrate without taking a small boat!

sleepwouldbenice · 25/08/2025 01:10

bloodymary2025 · 25/08/2025 00:50

It is indeed a beautiful hotel that photo looks stunning, beautiful architecture.

My point was in reply to pp saying imigrates weren't having a great time In the hotels, illegal immigrates claiming to be refugees are ecomonic migrants

Gaming the system

You're wrong about the hotel. And the circumstances people live there
Try harder

Orcaslament333 · 25/08/2025 01:14

I would urge everyone to look at the video produced by Led By Donkeys on Facebook about Nigel Farage’s life from childhood onwards.

What strikes you is that none of this happened overnight. It’s been a long calculated journey.

ElizabethDavid · 25/08/2025 01:15

Waiting for the Covid-19 bedwetters to come out of hiding asking what masks they should wear when they walk down the high street. Just in case they come across someone attempting to put a flag up. What about prepping ladies? Best get those supermarket deliveries in. It would be terrible to see the flags whilst driving to the supermarket. Therapy and a spa weekend would be needed to recover! Obviously would need to revert to 100% WFH. Time to make banana bread again!

LIGHTSNACKER · 25/08/2025 01:17

Pogoda · 24/08/2025 23:12

I am not on social media and don't even have TikTok, so I was intrigued to see a flag on one of the houses in our sleepy village. Then I browsed to find out what's going on and now I'm scratching my head, because this village is very white-British, Conservatives win big time every time, and the only immigrants I can hear here are a few Ukrainian mums with small kids on a school run. I'm a little dismayed now. Whose agenda is this...? It doesn't make any sense...

Probably started with Russia. Putin did a great job with his Bexit and Trump propaganda and continues to try and create division in Europe and America. I can just imagine him having a good old chuckle at the idiots who lap this all up.

Libertybellz · 25/08/2025 01:18

The governmental mismanagement of migrants has created this. Half the country hasn’t gone racist; they’re reacting to unfair systems

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JHound · 25/08/2025 01:24

Silverbirchleaf · 24/08/2025 22:13

I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

I stopped reading comments on social media ages ago.
No matter how benign. Even subjects you think would be uncontroversial.

Racism racism racism. Even ads and ESPECIALLY ads with mixed couples.

No wonder I know a load of people seeking a back-up plan / escape route out of the UK / Europe.

Spookyspaghetti · 25/08/2025 01:25

Silverbirchleaf · 24/08/2025 22:31

But what does flying a flag, painting roundabouts achieve though? . Fear? Intimidation? I like living in Britain, but I’m not proud of these ‘British’ people at all.

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Agree. I’m white British and I’m intimidated by it. I can’t imagine how awful it must be to live in an atmosphere like this for people with a diverse heritage. It’s so sad and I hope a majority of English people push back against this madness. And yeah, there is loads of money in it and backing it.

JHound · 25/08/2025 01:26

Sandyshandy · 24/08/2025 22:23

It is frightening. But it’s not surprising- people are frustrated, they don’t like seeing their local area changed by an influx of people with very different behavioural norms and cultures that may be at odds with the values that most people hold. They like it even less when groups actively demand that established norms are changed țo accommodate new arrivals if it is perceived that it disadvantages the locals

What are some of the changes being demanded to established norms.

summershere99 · 25/08/2025 01:26

Buxusmortus · 24/08/2025 23:41

I think the issue is that when times are good, people don't generally have such a problem with immigrants as when times are hard, as they are now. I also think these days it's become socially acceptable in some demographics to speak out loud about the issue whereas previously people may have thought the thoughts but kept them to themselves.

When you experience delays in basic health care like seeing a GP or specialist, huge waiting lists and constantly being told that there isn't money available for the NHS, schools, police force etc, it sticks in the craw when people arrive on boats, who could easily have sought asylum in France, Italy or Greece, turn up and are housed, fed, given phones etc without having to lift a finger. These people aren't generally families, they're young men who are mostly not fleeing a tyrannical regime, they just think they'll have an easier life in Britain with more money.

That doesn't go down well with British citizens who live here and are struggling. People are frustrated because the government seems unwilling to do much about it, but other countries such as Australia are much more stringent.

But a lot of what you’ve said is just not true. Most asylum claims are from Syria and Afghanistan, countries where many people are scared for their lives and have almost no hope of improving their lot. If you knew the risks people take to flee their home countries you would be less likely to think they just pitched up here for an easier life. France takes in a lot of asylum seekers, and Germany still takes in the most in the EU.

I do wish people would get their knowledge from factual places rather than being hyped up by the DM or other right wing papers or a mate on FB.

There are currently about 32,000 asylum seekers in hotels spread across the UK. I really don’t think they’re the reason you can’t get a DRs appt.

ElizabethDavid · 25/08/2025 01:27

Spookyspaghetti · 25/08/2025 01:25

Agree. I’m white British and I’m intimidated by it. I can’t imagine how awful it must be to live in an atmosphere like this for people with a diverse heritage. It’s so sad and I hope a majority of English people push back against this madness. And yeah, there is loads of money in it and backing it.

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You are intimidated by it? My God, you must live a sheltered life.

JHound · 25/08/2025 01:28

Supersimkin7 · 24/08/2025 22:35

Welfare migrants aren’t a race issue - except in London where the homes and services they take come straight from
the poor, who are mostly non-white.

If you cared about racism, you’d get how distressing it is to know Windrush families who took two jobs each see their grandchildren forced out of their hometown by lifelong workless asylum seekers… in the name of fairness.

Welfare migration is an insult to the once-immigrant working poor - who aren’t white.

Please don’t try to weaponise the Windrush generation this way as if they didn’t face the same vitriol on arrival.

JHound · 25/08/2025 01:32

What does this have to do with what you quoted?

Spookyspaghetti · 25/08/2025 01:33

ElizabethDavid · 25/08/2025 01:27

You are intimidated by it? My God, you must live a sheltered life.

I really don’t. I come from the inner city. But why should I have to take my child to play in a park surrounded by flags erected by racists? It’s not right and I’m going to stand up and say so. It’s not fair for the far-right and average Jo blog racist to put children in the middle of their political dispute.

Believing that people are equal is not a sheltered view point. Fearing others who are different because of memes and conspiracy theories read in an online echo chamber is very sheltered.

JHound · 25/08/2025 01:34

Sunflower3332 · 25/08/2025 00:45

Well they're not homeless and living on the streets like so many people who were born and bred in this Country are they?, and they certainly won't be without heating come the winter months like so many of our pensioners either.

So really you should be 'applying critical thinking' and see what's actually going on, and it's only going to get worse.

So you think asylum seekers should instead be sent to live on the street while being assessed?

JHound · 25/08/2025 01:36

erm · 24/08/2025 23:27

I think it’s timing, the NHS is on its knees, people can hardly see a GP, schools are majorly underfunded, there’s a cost of living crisis where every week our shopping bill seems to be going up, then to top it all off all the illegal immigrants are allegedly crossing several countries and risking their lives crossing the channel to get to Britain as they see it as the land of milk and honey or benefits galore.

Coupled with the seemingly never ending social media stories of illegal Uber delivery drivers, HMO houses, men arriving to rape or women and children and you can see how easily and quickly the frenzy is being whipped up.

Personally, I think we do need tougher controls like Australian has, no entry into the country unless you can prove you have a job and X amount in the bank. Any committing a crime you’re deported. We take a limited amount of genuine asylum seekers each year similar to other EU countries. Send out the message you are more than welcome if you want to come here, contribute, work hard and join our multi-cultural society.

You don’t know much about the Australian system do you?

EmeraldRoulette · 25/08/2025 01:38

AppleKatie · 25/08/2025 00:55

Local fb groups which genuinely used to be harmless local chat have become about organising protests or complaining about ‘immigrants’ (they use other words I’d rather not repeat)

flags put up behind my house on every lamppost and people talking in public about how ‘they’ don’t like us flying our flag, but we must stand up for our country’

in my local expensive gym jacuzzi a man tried to engage me in conversation about how terrible the immigrants are and how they are ruining the town.

Reform meetings happening in local churches.

That does sound pretty organic in terms of what's happening

However, as other posters have mentioned, there is obviously money doing the rounds.

The reason I picked up on your concerns specifically is because the Covid and lockdown propaganda absolutely terrified me. (no because of the virus but the control and draconian law) In this case, there are clearly several organisations on both sides. it's not just government imposing an agenda.

Although they've certainly made a mess of everything! And some people will argue that this current situation is a response to an agenda that they've imposed.

ironically, the concept of paid protesters is also something that's led to me being accused of being a conspiracy theorist but these days decent journalists do actually point it all out from the Companies House accounts, so hopefully that's an accusation that won't come around this time!

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