Hate how racist everything has become, and how quickly it’s happened.

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I was just looking at facebook, and a ‘Sad face’ newsmaker article came up. Practically all the comments mentioned boats, asylum seekers etc etc. Its really getting me down.

Travelled to the south west last weekend. On the way down no flags on bridges. On the way back, in some areas, every bridge.

Its scary how quickly it’s all happening.

I live in a very white area. Not very diverse at all & no asylum seeker hotels. Working class area, quite scruffy in some parts, drug problems etc. Our local council isn’t great, lots of services being cut,e.g refuge collection, grass cutting etc. Locals moan about it on FB, comments will always include a few blaming it on ‘the boats’. Some people really do seem to believe that they are handed bags of cash & keys to a council flat as soon as they arrive here!

Large groups within the population that haven’t integrated, or are responsible for crime, certain crimes, or aren’t net contributors as an example.

You’re right. And round here it’s white chavvy spice heads who are burgling houses, shoplifting and causing trouble in the city. Responsible for 95% of the crime and not integrated. None of them work, all on welfare being a drain on society.

Anything is true when you make it up.

But to be clear “black” does not equal “Kenyan.

I was talking about his cultural identity not his racial one. He is American and nobody reasonable would suggest he has equally embraced his Kenyan and American identity..

I have no idea what him having a girlfriend from Asia in the past has to do with anything.

No - I think it is beyond horrifying that ANYONE risks their life fleeing safety in France to get to the UK. We all know how much they have spent to donate journey too. If their priority was safety the whole family would try to walk to the neighbouring country. I well remember the Kurds fleeing Iraq - whole families fleeing on foot through the mountains. The fact that this wave of immigrants is travelling through safe Europe to get here (rather than elsewhere) is what shows that they are economic migrants rather than just escaping danger with their families. If the men can’t leave on planes how can the women?

True! They’re also a problem.

Idk she is part of a small but emerging community in Britain. Demographic change in the UK is driven by migration, not mixed-race marriage.

I don’t understand that. Demographic change is caused by migration not mixed race marriage? I would’ve thought it would be both.

You need to read up on Islam if you don’t think it will impact you.

He is American, but he has embraced his black identity and has struggled with his white identity as he never felt his white grandparents (who raised him) really understood him. And among blacks, it is tricky still because he is not ADOS

That still doesn't answer the question.

Which leaves me to draw the obvious conclusion.

The impact of mixed-race marriage is very small compared to migration.

I see that constantly “they get everything for free - as soon as they arrive they are given a free house”.

And people like this are impervious to data.

Blaming “foreigners” for all of our ills is a trend that dates back centuries.

At this point I am just ready for Reform to get in so people can see migrants are not
the source of all of their ills.

It is indeed driven by both, but @RingoJuice is trying to dodge the question.

Soz, wrong post but was saying ...most people born in this country do NOT live in an area where they are a minority . And tbh , what the flip does it matter ? It'll only matter if you are a racist thug.

None of this has to do with the false claim that being birracial means having two cultures.

Obama is fully American and nobody would ever claim he claims equally his American and Kenyan cultural heritage.

Why you are waffling on about how he may or may not be viewed among other Americans
who happen to be black is wholly irrelevant and
you are derailing.

Having a parent of an immigrant background does not mean you will embrace that foreign
culture which is the point about Obama.

So you think Obama does not embrace black American culture? He intentionally chose to.

Yeah, I have some sympathy with that position. However, my concern is that, when Reform fails on a monumental scale, as it inevitably will, the idiots that voted them in won't necessarily see sense... they may just lurch even further to the right, or we may just see the complete breakdown of law and order altogether.

Personally, if Reform do get in - and I think they probably will - I'm not hanging around to witness the fallout.

Why are you talking about race? The topic is migration and whether those of partial immigrant heritage claim both backgrounds equally.

Obama is a clear example that that is not necessarily the case.

He absolutely privileges his American cultural
identity over his Kenyan one.

So it migrants all marry a British person there won’t be demographic change?

I think that’s the thing I fear most about Reform. Not that they can deliver what they promise.

But what happens if they don’t? And like you I am lucky enough to have my escape route in place but most of my family do not.

If 10% do, then no, there won’t. If 100% do … that’s like losing a war level of demographic change. That’s not really realistic, is it?

Do you see it as a war, then?

Would it be a problem for you if the majority of the population were mixed race?

American cultural identity has traditionally been split into several distinct groups: white Americans, ADOS, and Native Americans. Nowadays we can add Hispanics and AA.

Obama is unique in that he is not ADOS but has culturally embraced his black American identity anyway.

You don’t think generalising about an entire group of people is racist?

You don’t think Muslims believe is Islam or you think it racist to say they do?