Labour isn't working - Thread 6

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. Labour isn't working.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Sorry, long read but this is a good round up of what's to come over the Autumn period. Buckle up, it's going to be a bumpy ride. The clowns are back on Monday.
https://news.sky.com/story/a-revenge-reshuffle-the-next-budget-and-asylum-30-things-to-watch-for-this-upcoming-political-season-13420263

So much ahead, thanks @TheNuthatch

Is Rayner still going back to work with the civil servants in Housing threatening to strike?

I wish I knew!

Tricky. It's a bit of a trek from Hove, but I'm sure she can make it if she sets off early.

😂

Ooh I know. Sam Tarry could ship her up the Thames on his kayak. Queen Anne style 😂.

Sorry, I'll stop now. It's been a long week 😂

Angela Rayner is facing an ethics investigation over whether she paid the correct tax on her various homes.

The Deputy Prime Minister admitted on Friday night that she removed her name from the deeds of her family house before buying a seaside flat 250 miles away that saved her £40,000 in stamp duty.

At the same time, Ms Rayner, who is also Housing Secretary, insisted her old home in Greater Manchester remained her main residence. In doing so, she has been able to avoid paying £2,000 in council tax on a third property, a grace and favour apartment in central London.

On Friday night, the Tories referred Ms Rayner to Sir Laurie Magnus, the Prime Minister’s independent adviser on ministers’ interests, saying her behaviour had been “unethical”. They accused her of “hypocritical tax avoidance by a minister who supports higher taxes on family homes, high-value homes and second homes”.

Sir Laurie will decide in the coming days whether to launch an investigation.

This is worrying. There's another mention of TFS here also. I didn't know judges could be so politically enmeshed.
https://news.sky.com/story/political-leanings-of-two-judges-involved-in-epping-migrant-hotel-case-and-who-they-sided-with-13420751

It really stinks doesn't it. I think she believes she's invincible, so probably doesn't care.

Utterly shameless.

Hopefully the story has legs, and will develop nicely next week.

Another impact of raising NI

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2025/aug/30/parents-england-pay-more-school-lunches-caterers-blame-rising-costs

Will Labour supporters finally understand that increased costs for a business are inevitably paid by the customers?

It's surprising how few still seem to understand it: cheering on increased costs to landlords for example, whilst bemoaning high rents and the lack of rental availability 🙄

Yes that's always a good one: "tax greedy lamdlords" whilst simultaneously "rents are too high and there's not enough renting stock"

Sheikh Abid Gulzar, a tycoon nicknamed “Goldfinger”, previously disclosed he was paid around £15,000 a week to house asylum seekers. Gulzar, who has an estimated fortune of £5m, drives a golden Tesla and has painted the domes on the listed Eastbourne pier, which he owns, in gold.

Gulzar owns a luxury retreat that was used as a migrant hotel between 2022 and 2023, but the contract ended after an asylum seeker took his own life.

£15k a week 😱 It'd be cheaper to put them in a care home.

Omg next in reeves sights is lowering the threshold for small business to pay vat

Small business already struggling ,still recovering from COVID.
What happened to grow the economy.

@strawberrybubblegum no if small business is taxed more they will close or raise prices .

@TheNuthatch isn't that shocking re judges.

DP and I were talking last night about the mood in the country. It feels like we are getting close to the time of the anti-Thatcher riots.

I don’t for a minute think a load of middle class business owners, parents of privately educated kids or landlords are going to take to the streets demanding death to Keir but there’s definitely a feeling that people have had more than enough.

The decision about the hotel in Epping is the start of it, I feel and this will be further manipulated by Farage, T Robinson et al.

Anyone else feeling like this?

I think that the government have been lucky that the Epping decision didn't come during a heatwave. People in the UK do tend to be more inclined to riot in hot weather, it seems.

I don't know if we're at a tipping point, however. But the mood is definitely not optimistic.

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The Epping appeal decision could well be a tipping point because people can now see how politicized the legal system is and how dismissive the government is of people’s legitimate fears.

Presumably that was total, not per person?

So that will mean more honest businesses going under, and an increase in the black economy then. The black economy which is already estimated to be £223billion, 11% of our GDP.

I do believe in 'don't attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity', but I also agree with @twistyizzy that it's getting harder and harder to believe it's just stupidity...

Things which we had dismissed as conspiracy theory are coming out as true... 😬

As a parent of a child in independent school and wife of a DH made redundant through Reeves' policy, no I wouldn't go around shouting that but I would support a call for a general election and Starmer to go.