Witches - spell help

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Hey, looking for some advice as in all the years of spell work I have never had this happen before.

i did a spell on the full moon, all very well intentioned, to help me save money. I lit a candle in a special place to me, set my intention, and the candle blew out quite quickly. It was near a window, so I took it to mean spell completed ie wish made.

i took the candle home and lit it again later on the lionsgate portal night to strengthen my resolve. The wax kind of dripped on to my finger and burned me a lot. I’ve never had that happen before. I looked it up and some say it’s a warning (what can it be warning me about, it’s literally just to make me save money 😂) or - very differing view - the spell needed some kind of karmic or energy payment from me, and I “paid” with the burn to add strength and resolve to the spell.

any thoughts? I’ve done this a long time and never cast bad or ill intentioned spells so I don’t know what this was about! Has someone hexed me?

blessed be x

To all the narrow minded non believers. You wouldn’t say these things to someone who believed in Islam, Christianity or Judaism or any other faith. because you’d be labelled for that. But completely ok to bring someone down for their beliefs in spells. Yet you believe most of the “stories” about religion. Each to their own, if you’re not interested just don’t comment. Some people are too far stuck up their own ass to believe anything unless it’s been brainwashed into you by education , parents and what YOU ARE TOLD TO BELIEVE

🤣 if you believe something it’s YOUR belief system. Doesn’t mean it’s wrong. People may want to try looking past the end of their nose.

You may have attracted a mischievous or cruel elemental spirit. Do lots of protection and expunging, even so, it’s unlikely you are more powerful than it. If you have attracted attention, from non visible beings, I truly wish you all the best.

They can’t help themselves. They’re under the illusion that their opinion matters so feel the need to put their two pennies in at every opportunity, think it’s because their sad & lonely and nothing better to do.

Right, so back to my original comment on the meme you posted, you are saying that you and other witches put "curses" on people - presumably wishing them harm - for disagreeing with your beliefs? My original question was, is that ethical? Is it?

of course, if you practice sympathetic magic, all you need is a name, even a nickname.

And do you? Do you stick pins in a doll with the avatars/nicknames of people who disagree with you online? What does that say about your levels of morality and sanity?

You talk about witch trials and hunting in a previous post. Well the reason we decry that today is because we don't believe those women were doing anything wrong/the bad things they were accused of because we know magic is not real. Are you now claiming that they were, in fact, doing bad things to people/animals/poisoning wells etc, thus justifying the fear against them and the actions that were taken against them?

@Heresmycontroversialopinion where did I say that I curse because someone doesn’t share my belief? That’s you projecting your ill informed opinion.

i curse people who harm me and mine through words and actions. The people throwing out uninvited opinions and actions are not immune from discussion about ‘ethical behaviour’ either…

Witches are human, and like everyone else, they're capable of good and bad, light and dark, and all the grey in between.

A witch having your hair/teeth/name could do something horrible if they're that kind of person, but equally, they could use it for 'good' .. ie to heal, to help, to soothe a troubled mind or soul.

A Witch is as capable of doing good or bad as much as the next person.

Is the 'bad stuff' ethical? It depends where your morals lie.

Were i to have the name of a notorious abuser, murderer, paedophile, like one of the horrors of the world who committed heinous sins against children in the boarding schools, for conversations sake.. and i used that name, and my learning in witchcraft to curse/hex them, and bring all the foul things that life can bring upon them in retribution and punishment, would you consider that a bad thing?

Personally i wouldn't do that.. but i might consider a binding spell to help towards turning them from such behaviour in future. Would you think that an Ethical use of magic perhaps?

I prefer to do 'good' with my skills and spell work.. like making protection bottles and charms for friends to keep in their homes/on their person. I do spells to help my friends pains both physical and mental ease.

Magic in and of itself doesn't have ethics and morals, it is simply the dagger or the offered hand, the Witch is the source of good/bad/grey and they're individuals with ethics and morals of their own.. just like Priests, or lay people who are Christian.. just like Atheists.. do you ask them if their beliefs and actions are ethical?

And just before the ‘Threefold’ people come for me, I ain’t Wiccan…😁

@Kreepture good post 🙌

me either.. too much faff and rules to keep that up!

happily marinating in my eclectic kitchen/green witching.

@Kreepture I will admit to a short phase of wearing a pentacle the size of a dinner plate in my youth a la ‘I am a Witch. Fear Me’. The looks I got were more ‘wtf’ than fear…😁

haha.. me too! i think thats something we all do at some point.. its a right of passage. These days i think the equivalent is having a 'witchtok' account and filming doing cord cutting spells and warning against love magick

@Heresmycontroversialopinion If you had read about Gwen Ferch Ellis, you’d have seen that people did believe that magic existed, and that she had used magic against others. People gave evidence under oath that she practiced magic. They hanged her for it.

Try this - people are allowed to believe in magic in real life. There are many theses and doctorates on the subject. The British Govt had an office on witchcraft and the occult in WW2. Just imagine… oh, sorry, I forgot - magic ain’t real…

I think what’s happening on this thread is the exact opposite of witch finding.

Posters like me are saying that witchcraft, spells, signs from the universe and the rest of it is nonsense.

So all MN’s ‘witches’ are quite safe. Because you can’t be put on the ducking stool for practising magic, since it doesn’t exist.

Doing incantations, burning sage, wearing amulets, and whatnot makes you as ‘magical’ as a child dressing up with a gown and a wand to go round the Harry Potter Studio Tour.

I don't think you understand projection. That's me asking you a question based on your comment that you can curse someone from a simple nickname. I assumed you said that for a reason on this, an anonymous discussion forum.

What is unethical about having an opinion?

@Heresmycontroversialopinion ok - in simple terms for you. You disagree with me about magic. That’s fine, but you disagree and throw in lack of respect for any other opinion than one matching yours. I respond to you, but then you respond back and gaslight me. You then deny gaslighting me. I get fed up so write your nickname three times on paper, fold it up and put it in a jam jar, either with water or oil depending on whether I want to freeze you out or shut you up.

Luckily, on an anonymous online forum, I don’t have to do anything. It’s just amusing to see you work so hard to prove that my own opinion is wrong. It’s not - it’s simply my opinion. Which you can debate, but not decry.

Yes did being the operative word. That we decry the hanging of so-called witches in modern times is because we don't believe in magic and that these women were doing anything magical or particularly wrong, they were just convenient scapegoats. What you are implying is that they did, indeed, do wrong and therefore deserved their punishment.

Yes, Hitler was an occultist and belief in the occult has often been connected with abuse meted out by persons at the very highest levels of society and governance. It had a popular revival amongst intellectual sets in the Victorian era and early 20th Century. So what? Those same societies had all sorts of beliefs and values that are (rightly) dismissed as rubbish today.

Nobody has said witches are not allowed to believe in anything. Just as nobody is required to believe in a witch's beliefs, let alone respect them. That is, unless they are using their beliefs to threaten and intimidate people, or do real life harm - as much practiced witchcraft does through human and animal cruelty and sacrifice. In that case, whilst their beliefs in themselves are not (and should not be) punishable, any of their actions amounting to criminality should be.

I don't think you understand gaslighting either.

@Heresmycontroversialopinion your comment is the very definition of gaslighting! 🤣

@DenizenOfAisleOfShame you lost me at burning sage - that is cultural appropriation.

Its salt you need - cheaper and more effective…

Were i to have the name of a notorious abuser, murderer, paedophile, like one of the horrors of the world who committed heinous sins against children in the boarding schools, for conversations sake.. and i used that name, and my learning in witchcraft to curse/hex them, and bring all the foul things that life can bring upon them in retribution and punishment, would you consider that a bad thing?

I'd consider it a pointless waste of your energy. But if you want to, go ahead. Has it ever worked? Can you or your fellow witches try a bit harder, there are too many out there not getting banged up for long enough.

Personally i wouldn't do that.. but i might consider a binding spell to help towards turning them from such behaviour in future. Would you think that an Ethical use of magic perhaps?

I don't know, is it ethical to unilaterally and without any authority decide that you have the right to control another's behaviour, whatever they have done? Isn't that a form of vigilante justice?

It's interesting you have chosen an emotive extreme example for your curse justification though. You aren't paedophile hunting in real life and putting curses on random bad men. Clearly you are on people in your own life who have done far more mundane things "against" you.

if it doesn't work, it's just a prayer... or a complicated wish

Do you have a problem with people praying for the bad people to stop, or wishing they'd go away?

Or is it just Witches you have issue with?

eta: my mention of the paedophile was simply because that was the most recent hex i witnessed on film being shown/talked about on a witch page that popped on my fb wall

@Heresmycontroversialopinion trivialising is gaslighting - that is exactly what you are doing. You told me that I curse people who don’t have the same opinion as me. I never wrote that on this thread. I merely recounted an internet meme that a witch would recognise as referring to a witch cursing someone who was being a rude cunt to them. If you are a rude cunt, expect consequences.

Strange you should mention paedophiles. There is a convicted paedophile living 4 doors away from me. He decided this week to attack my husband in the presence of my son. We have gone the usual route of police, but I have also cursed him. It makes me feel so much better. If you don’t believe me, pm me and I’ll send you the details of the paedophile concerned.

OP instead of burning yourself with hot wax, etc., try asking your angels and guides (and soul family) to step forward and help you with your finances or whatever else you need help with.

“I ask my guides and angels to step forward and …”

I sometimes add that they make the signs so obvious i couldn’t miss them. Works for me!!! It’s magic ;)

Check out “Sterling Psychic Medium” channel on YT for more info.
Namaste 🙏

But why are you trying to argue your point that it’s nonsense to people who don’t believe it’s nonsense?

The thread isn’t a debate about who’s right or wrong nor was that the way the OP intended the thread to go.

It doesn’t matter if you think it’s nonsense nobody other then yourself cares about your opinions so why are you hoping to get reactions of people?