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Ukraine Invasion: Part 58

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MagicFox · 10/08/2025 12:16

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 12:48

Hiring people to burn down warehouses;
planting small explosive devices in passenger flight toilets;
Russian interference in elections, which is very well recorded now (and the UK has still not released the report on the Russian interference in Brexit);
amplifying racial tensions and strife in France, Germany and other countries, eg Belgium and Czechia, never mind Moldova;
Russian interference in Austria, reported by Austrian Chancellor Karl Nehammer
Endless cyberattacks including on the NHS (which affected @Hillsmakeyoustrong )
Attack on Warsaw shopping centre

... there is so much more. Some of these attacks are tiny, such as the recent reported dam attack in Norway which was laughable, but some really are not.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 13:06

Kyiv Independent Telegram Highlights

⚡️As Moscow escalates strikes and rejects talks with Kyiv, Trump says he's 'very disappointed (kyivindependent.com/trump-says-hes-very-disappointed-in-putin-as-russia-steps-up-attacks-on-ukrainian-cities/)' in Putin.
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sept. 2 that he was "very disappointed" in Russian President Vladimir Putin, amid a lack of concrete results stemming from his summit in Alaska with Putin. [I'm sure Putin will convince you all is well, Mr Trump]

⚡️ Russia open to 'cooperation' with Ukraine, US at occupied Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant (kyivindependent.com/russia-open-to-cooperating-with-ukraine-us-at-occupied-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-putin-claims/), Putin claims.
The comments, made during Putin's meeting with Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico in Beijing, represent an apparent shift from Moscow's previous refusal of any changes regarding the Ukrainian plant's oversight.

⚡️ Kremlin denies Trump, Putin ever agreed (kyivindependent.com/kremlin-denies-trump-putin-ever-agreed-on-zelensky-meeting/) on face-to-face Zelensky meeting.

⚡️Putin, Zelensky not ready (kyivindependent.com/putin-zelensky-not-ready-for-face-to-face-meeting-erdogan-says/) for face-to-face meeting, Erdogan says.

⚡️Macron to meet (kyivindependent.com/macron-to-meet-zelensky-ahead-of-talks-with-european-leaders-in-paris-media-reports/) Zelensky ahead of talks with European leaders in Paris, media reports.

⚡️Explosions rock western Ukrainian cities as Russia launches large-scale drone attack (kyivindependent.com/explosions-rock-western-ukrainian-cities-as-russia-again-launches-large-scale-attack/).
Russia launched a wave of drone attacks on Ukrainian cities overnight on Sept. 2-3, targeting regions in Ukraine's far-west.

⚡️ German chancellor rejects von der Leyen's remarks (kyivindependent.com/german-chancellor-rejects-von-der-leyens-remarks-on-ukraine-troop-plans/) on Ukraine troop plans.
European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen told the Financial Times on Aug. 31 that European capitals were preparing "pretty precise plans" for potential deployments in postwar Ukraine.

⚡️ Zelensky arrives in Denmark (kyivindependent.com/zelensky-arrives-in-denmark-for-summit-with-nordics-baltics/) for summit with Nordics, Baltics.

⚡️ UK defense secretary arrives in Ukraine (kyivindependent.com/uk-defense-secretary-arrives-in-ukraine-amid-plans-for-important-military-decisions/) as Kyiv signals 'important' military decisions.
"We are preparing important bilateral decisions that will strengthen the defense capabilities of our countries," Ukraine's Defense Minister Denys Shmyhal said.

⚡️ Putin meets Slovak prime minister (kyivindependent.com/putin-meets-slovak-prime-minister-fico-in-beijing-praises-independent-policy/) Fico in Beijing, praises his 'independent' policy.

⚡️ About 2,000 North Korean soldiers killed (kyivindependent.com/about-2-000-north-korean-soldiers-killed-fighting-for-russia-seoul-says/) fighting for Russia, Seoul says.
According to South Korea's National Intelligence Service, Pyongyang plans to send an additional 6,000 troops to Russia as part of its third wave of deployment.

⚡️Slovakia increasing (kyivindependent.com/slovakia-increasing-russian-gas-imports-aims-to-standardize-relations-with-moscow-fico-says/) Russian gas imports, aims to 'standardize relations' with Moscow, Fico tells Putin.
Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico told Russian President Vladimir Putin on Sept. 2 that he will seek to normalize relations with Moscow, as Bratislava moves to gradually increase Russian gas imports through the TurkStream pipeline.

⚡️Large pollution slick approaches (kyivindependent.com/large-pollution-slick-approaches-crimea-russian-coast-impacted-monitoring-group-says/) Crimea, Russian coast impacted, monitoring group says.
The spill originated on Aug. 29 at the Caspian Pipeline Consortium Marine Terminal near Novorossiysk in Krasnodar Krai.

⚡️ Suspect admits to killing (kyivindependent.com/suspect-confesses-to-killing-ex-parliament-speaker/) Ukraine's ex-parliament speaker in comments for media.
"I admit, I killed him. And I want to ask to be exchanged for (Ukrainian) prisoners of war so that I can go and find my son's body," the suspect in the killing of Andrii Parubii told journalists.

⚡️ Ukraine says it destroyed Russian speedboat (kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-navy-destroys-russian-speedboat-kills-7-in-black-sea/) as it attempted to land troops — Navy shares footage.
The Russian vessel attempted to land airborne troops on the Tendra Spit, a narrow island stretching some 65 kilometers (40 miles) in the northern Black Sea off Ukraine's southern coast.

⚡️ Ukrainian drones allegedly hit railway (kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-drones-hit-railway-in-russias-rostov-oblast-26-trains-delayed/) in Russia's Rostov Oblast, 26 trains delayed.
"As a result of the drone attack... the contact network was temporarily disrupted," Rostov Oblast Governor Yuri Slyusar said.

⚡️ Ukraine's parliament backs bill to legalize, tax (kyivindependent.com/parliament-backs-draft-law-to-legalize-tax-virtual-assets-in-first-reading/) virtual assets in first reading.
Ukraine has one of the world's highest rates of cryptocurrency ownership, with around 16% of the population holding crypto assets before Russia's full-scale invasion, comparable to the U.S.

⚡️ State agency files lawsuit (kyivindependent.com/state-agency-files-lawsuit-on-banning-moscow-backed-church-in-ukraine/) to ban Moscow-backed church in Ukraine.
The move does not mean the abolition of individual parishes, which can become independent or join another church, said Viktor Yelenskyi, head of Ukraine's State Service for Ethnopolitics and Freedom of Conscience.

⚡️ Yanukovych's stunt in Russian media shows Kremlin doesn't understand Ukraine (kyivindependent.com/yanukovych-breaks-silence-claims-he-always-backed-close-ties-between-ukraine-eu/), experts say.
Ukraine's former pro-Kremlin President Viktor Yanukovych seemingly resurfaced publicly for the first time in years on Sept. 1, claiming that he had always backed Ukraine's path toward the European Union.

⚡️Top Ukrainian Security Service official suspected (kyivindependent.com/ex-sbu-cybersecurity-chief-suspected-of-illicit-enrichment-false-asset-declarations/) of corruption.
Illia Vitiuk was dismissed from his post on May 1, 2024, following an investigation by Slidstvo.Info that revealed his family had purchased real estate with a market value of at least $617,000.

⚡️ Putin lauds 'brave' North Korean soldiers (kyivindependent.com/putin-meets-kim-in-beijing/) who fought against Ukraine during talks with Kim.

‘No fate but what we make’ — Ukrainians transform storm-destroyed Burning Man installation
(https://kyivindependent.com/no-fate-but-what-we-make-ukrainians-transform-storm-destroyed-burning-man-installation/)

⚡️ Update: Ukrainian soldier whose throat was cut by Russian forces found safe after disappearing (kyivindependent.com/ukrainian-soldier-tortured-by-russia-disappears-from-dnipro-hospital/) from hospital.
Vladyslav Nahornyi's wife told Ukrainian broadcaster Suspile.

Years of torture, abuse in Russian captivity take shocking toll on Ukrainian POWs
(kyivindependent.com/the-shocking-toll-of-russian-captivity-on-ukrainian-prisoners-of-war/)
Routine torture and inhumane treatment make every day in Russian captivity a nightmare for thousands of Ukrainian POWs. According to the UN, over 95% of released prisoners report having been tortured.
Many POWs return with disabilities — losing teeth, limbs, organs, and in some cases, even their lives after coming home.

⚡️ UK sanctions Kadyrov's mother, others (kyivindependent.com/uk-sanctions-individuals-groups-behind-russian-deportation-of-ukrainian-children/) over Russian deportation of Ukrainian children.

⚡️ 1 killed, 35 injured in Russian attacks (kyivindependent.com/russian-attacks-in-ukraine-2/) on Ukraine over past day.
Russian forces launched 502 Shahed-type attack drones and decoy drones, along with 16 Kalibr and eight Kh-101 cruise missiles overnight, the Air Force said.
Ukrainian air defenses reportedly intercepted 430 drones and 21 missiles.

Ragnar Bjartur Gudmundsson 🇺🇦‬ ‪@ragnarbjartur.bsky.social‬
· 4h
⚡️ WAR IN UKRAINE & RUSSIA — SEP 3, 2025
■ Engagements & casualties below average
■ Weekly total equipment & drone losses at record level
■ Massive overnight attacks including two dozen missiles - still ongoing
■ Double-digit strike ratio

Ukraine Invasion: Part 58
ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 13:09

hopefully the mumsent team will restore the Kyiv Indep update soon.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 13:13

UNITED24 Media Telegram Highlights

French doctors have been advised to prepare for a possible war by spring 2026, Le Figaro reports.
On July 18, hospitals received a letter instructing them to be ready to treat thousands of wounded in the event of a major war in Europe. Estimates suggest there could be between 10,000 and 50,000 casualties in the first months.

The largest Iron Defender-25 exercises in 2025 have begun in Poland.
The maneuvers will take place on land, at sea, and in the air, with the participation of 30,000 Polish and allied troops and about 600 units of equipment.
The exercises cover several regions of the country and involve the use of new strike and reconnaissance platforms, as well as the practice of lessons from the war in Ukraine.
At the same time, the Russian-Belarusian exercises West-2025 are being held in September.

Putin cynically declared that Russia "has never had, does not have, and will never have the desire to attack anyone."

Despite Putin’s ultimatums, NATO has moved 300 kilometers closer to Russia’s borders.
On September 1, the NATO Land Forces Regional Command headquarters officially began operating in the Finnish city of Mikkeli, the Finnish Land Forces reported.
Mikkeli is located 140 km from the Russian border and 304 km from St. Petersburg. Previously, the closest Alliance command headquarters to Russia was in Szczecin, Poland — the Multinational Corps “Northeast,” located 414 km from Kaliningrad.
At the first stage, about ten officers will work in Mikkeli. Over the next few years, personnel will grow to 50.
The headquarters will oversee NATO land forces in the northern region, coordinate national armies, and plan exercises and operations. It will report to the Norfolk command in the US, which is responsible for the Atlantic and the Arctic.

Russian dictator Putin said there is a possibility of finding consensus on security guarantees for Ukraine. He noted that he discussed this issue with Trump in Alaska.
Putin also did not rule out joint operation of the Zaporizhzhia NPP not only with the United States, but also with Ukraine.
“We can even work together at the Zaporizhzhia NPP,” the dictator said.

Fico said after talks with Putin that he had prepared a “serious message” for Zelenskyy.
“Putin informed me about the progress of negotiations with US President Donald Trump in Alaska and the prospects for ending this military conflict. From this important discussion, I have drawn several conclusions and messages that I intend to convey to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy on Friday,” the Slovak Prime Minister said.

Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine has led to a global shortage of TNT. The explosive, used for decades not only in the military but also in industry — including the production of gravel, cement, and other materials — is now becoming more expensive and less available, The New York Times reports.
The production of TNT (trinitrotoluene) generates hazardous waste. For this reason, by the mid-1980s, the U.S. Department of Defense closed the last plant in the country that produced the explosive.
After Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Poland remained the only official supplier of TNT to the Pentagon. However, most of its production is now directed to Ukraine.
The situation worsened after two key suppliers — Russia and China — stopped exporting TNT to the United States. This has put additional pressure on both U.S. weapons production and civilian quarry blasting operations that provide essential resources for the construction of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure.

Ukraine has become the first country to regularly use swarms of AI-controlled drones in combat — The Wall Street Journal.
According to the publication, the Swarmer software, developed by a Ukrainian startup, enables drones to coordinate their actions and independently decide whether to strike.
"You set the target, and the drones do the rest," a Ukrainian Armed Forces officer told the newspaper.
The technology has already been used more than 100 times, usually with groups of 3 to 8 drones. A swarm of more than 100 drones is reportedly now in the testing phase.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said the Alliance’s defenses must be strengthened due to the growing direct threat from Russia — The Guardian.
Rutte warned that Russia is much closer than Europeans think.
“With the latest Russian missile technology, for example, the difference between Lithuania on the front line and Luxembourg, The Hague or Madrid is 5–10 minutes. This is the time it takes for a missile to reach these parts of Europe. So we are all under direct threat from the Russians, we are all on the eastern flank now, regardless of whether you live in London or Tallinn… there is no difference anymore,” he said.
Rutte also commented on the incident with the plane of European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, which circled for several hours over the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv because Russian electronic warfare systems had jammed its GPS signal. He recalled other similar cases and stressed that NATO takes this “very seriously,” stepping up its response to hybrid and cyber threats and working “day and night.”
“I’ve always hated the word ‘hybrid’ because it sounds so nice, but hybrid is what it is: the jamming of commercial aircraft with potentially catastrophic consequences, the assassination of a major industrialist in a NATO ally, the attack on the National Health Service in the UK. These are not small incidents. These are huge incidents with huge impact,” Rutte said.

❗️Russia attacked Ukraine with drones and missiles tonight: the attack was aimed mainly at the western regions of Ukraine.
▪️ In Ivano-Frankivsk region, a fire broke out at an infrastructure facility. Preliminary reports indicate no casualties.
▪️ In Lutsk, heavy fires occurred. Two garages and an outbuilding were destroyed.
▪️ In Khmelnytskyi and the region, smoke was observed over the city. The city council reported that public transport today will operate with major schedule disruptions and in reduced numbers.
▪️ In Kirovohrad region, 17 houses were damaged, part of the community lost power, and there are victims. Railway infrastructure was also damaged, causing train delays.
▪️ Explosions were also reported in Chernivtsi, Vinnytsia, Chernihiv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Rivne, and Zaporizhzhia regions.

Italy is considering concealing the routes of government flights after Ursula von der Leyen’s plane experienced GPS problems — The Guardian.
According to the publication, the authorities plan to classify state flights, reduce the amount of information on the website of the Prime Minister’s Office, and limit the display of trajectories on specialized resources.
Although a 2011 decree requires the publication of data on ministers’ movements and the need for diplomatic permits remains, sources note that Rome “may soon decide not to make such flights public.”

Ukraine Reveals Specs of “Palianytsia”—Its Secret Long-Range Rocket Drone (united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-reveals-specs-of-palianytsia-its-secret-long-range-rocket-drone-11319)
Ukraine has disclosed the technical specifications of its “Palianytsia” rocket drone for the first time at the MSPO 2025 defense exhibition in Poland. The system, first announced on Ukraine’s Independence Day in August 2024, had remained classified until now.
According to Defense Express on August 2, the Palianytsia weighs 320 kilograms, including up to 100 kilograms of payload. Its maximum range is 650 kilometers, with an operational altitude between 15 and 500 meters.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 13:22

@notimagain Don't forget too that Mark Rutte, who is not alarmist and is more inclined to keep things running smoothly than anything else, keeps warning that Russia is a direct and growing threat. So has Pistorius.

I was also reminded that there seemed to be a credible plan to assassinate the CEO of Rheinmetall by Russia, which is most definitely a direct threat to the West given that Rheinmetall is such a centrally important defense company.

notimagain · 03/09/2025 13:26

Natsku · 03/09/2025 12:36

We shouldn't have tolerated any of it tbf, they shouldn't be able to disrupt anyone's flights.

@ReleaseTheDucksOfWar

.Rutte also commented on the incident with the plane of European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, which circled for several hours over the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv

That's exactly the sort of continuing embellishment of this story I'm warning of but as I'm probably the only person here who has had to handle GPS denial in flight what would I know?

I'm certainly hoping the "several hours" has been added by the media and wasn"t said by Rutte because the flight didn't circle for several hours...cut out the middle man/woman and the closest you can get to a.primary source is something like this;

https://x.com/flightradar24/status/1962565122326700178

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 13:28

Kyiv Post Telegram Highlights

Putin sends elite marines and paratroopers to Donetsk (https://www.kyivpost.com/post/59298) — Naval infantry and airborne VDV units have been redeployed, signaling preparations for a new massive offensive.

❗️Putin just confirmed: RUSSIA WILL TARGET UKRAINE’S ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE.
“Moscow remained patient for a long time and did not respond to Ukrainian attacks on our energy facilities. Now it has begun to respond seriously.”

POWs reveal why they fought for Russia and what they regret — Kyiv Post journalist interviews foreign fighters in Ukraine’s POW camps.

Following an impressive Chinese military parade and warm meetings between Xi Jinping and the dictators of Russia and North Korea, Trump accused all three countries of plotting against the United States. [oh, he thinks?]

Trump appeared at a press conference — his first in a week.
Rumors had been circulating online about the US President’s health, with some even speculating he had died. [they have?!]

Discover how Ukrainian volunteer Anastasiya Paraskevova helps deliver supplies, raise funds, and support Kharkiv’s defense (www.kyivpost.com/post/59255) against Russian attacks.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 58
notimagain · 03/09/2025 13:28

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ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 13:32

Live: Ukraine Telegram Highlights

🇷🇺🇨🇳China is introducing a one-year trial visa-free regime for Russians.
Starting September 15, Russians will be able to stay in China without a visa for up to 30 days for business, tourism, or visiting relatives and friends.
▪️ Meanwhile, Russia’s Gazprom and China’s CNPC have signed a memorandum on building the Power of Siberia-2 pipeline. It will deliver gas from fields on the Yamal Peninsula to China via Mongolia. Under the agreement, supplies will last 30 years, with a capacity of 50 billion cubic meters annually.
In addition, China and Russia agreed to increase deliveries through the Power of Siberia pipeline from 38 to 44 billion cubic meters per year.
Putin is currently in China, where he arrived on August 31 for a four-day visit.

🇱🇺 Luxembourg will join the PURL initiative and purchase weapons from the US for Ukraine.
Each Ukraine aid package under the program is worth $500 million, so Luxembourg’s Prime Minister Luc Frieden said he needs allies to jointly carry out such arms procurements for Ukraine.
▪️PURL is a new mechanism established by the US and NATO to rapidly supply military aid to Ukraine. Under PURL, NATO allies have already announced $2 billion worth of weapons purchases.

Russia does not object to Ukraine’s EU membership, but NATO accession is unacceptable — the main points from Vladimir Putin’s meeting with Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico:
— “Russia was forced to defend its interests and people who tie their lives to our history and traditions. That is the essence of the conflict in Ukraine. It is not our aggressive behavior, but aggression from the other side. We have no other goals than to defend our interests.”
— Russia has never had, does not have, and will never have the desire to attack anyone.
— Russia has never opposed Ukraine’s EU membership, but its NATO membership is unacceptable.
— The US under Trump has begun to listen to Russia, and the Alaska summit proved that. Moscow hopes constructive dialogue with Washington will continue.
— Russia is ready to cooperate with the US and even with Ukraine at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant: “We could even work together, the three of us, at the ZNPP.”
— Moscow tolerated Ukrainian attacks on its energy infrastructure for a long time before deciding to respond seriously.
— Eastern European countries should halt oil and gas supplies to Ukraine in order to stop its attacks on Russian energy infrastructure.

🇪🇺 The EU wants to close loopholes for Russian gas imports ahead of the full ban in 2027, with Denmark offering one proposal.
According to a document cited by Bloomberg, Denmark has suggested requiring importers to provide proof to national authorities that gas does not originate from Russia. The proposal places special emphasis on flows through the TurkStream pipeline, which connects Russia with Southeastern Europe.
“Natural gas entering the Union through borders or interconnection points between the EU and Russia or Belarus, as well as through the Strandzha 2 / Malkoclar interconnector (TurkStream), shall be considered directly or indirectly exported from the Russian Federation, unless conclusive evidence to the contrary is provided,” the Danish proposal states.
Bloomberg explains that if adopted, the new rules would block future “swap deals” — arrangements where Russian supplies are formally substituted with gas from other sources to bypass the ban.
Denmark reportedly aims to secure agreement among EU member states by October, followed by negotiations with the European Parliament, with the goal of final adoption by year’s end and entry into force.
▪️On June 17 this year, the European Commission proposed a full halt to Russian oil and gas imports by the end of 2027. Under the plan, new contracts for Russian gas imports would be banned starting January 1, 2026.

In Kostiantynivka, Donetsk region, the last hospital has ceased operations.
Olena Rudenko, director of the Kostiantynivka Multidisciplinary City Hospital of Intensive Care, told Suspilne Donbas that due to Russian shelling, the hospital building no longer has electricity or water supply.
“Our city is now in such a condition that it’s impossible to provide care. It’s very dangerous for both patients and doctors. Many of our doctors have left. All anesthesiologists are gone, we have no traumatologists, and our surgeons have left. We can no longer provide medical care,” she said.
Rudenko added that hospital admissions were stopped on August 25, and the last patient was discharged on August 28.
Serhiy Horbunov, head of the Kostiantynivka Military Administration, said ambulances can only reach the outskirts of the city, as they are immediately targeted by enemy drones if they enter. The wounded are being evacuated from Kostiantynivka by police paramedics and the White Angel unit.

❗️The son of the suspect in Parubiy’s murder served in the 93rd Mechanized Brigade and went missing in Bakhmut, Slidstvo.Info reports.
Mykhailo-Viktor Stselnikov (call sign “Lemberg”) was killed in May 2023, but is officially considered missing in action since his body has not been recovered. His mother, Olena Cherninka, published a book titled “Lemberg: Mamtsiu, Nu Ne Plach” (“Mom, Please Don’t Cry”) after his disappearance.
In court, the suspect said he wants to be exchanged for Ukrainian prisoners of war so he could travel to Russia and find his son’s body.

Ukraine's demining units cleared 5,973 hectares of liberated territories contaminated with explosive remnants of war caused by Russia’s aggression.

🇦🇺 Australia has imposed sanctions on 14 Russians over the death of opposition leader Alexei Navalny and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

The Russian state is handing out a manual to the Russian barbarian women on how to handle being beaten by their own barbarian men returning from the war

Ukraine Invasion: Part 58
Ukraine Invasion: Part 58
ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 13:44

notimagain · 03/09/2025 13:26

@ReleaseTheDucksOfWar

.Rutte also commented on the incident with the plane of European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen, which circled for several hours over the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv

That's exactly the sort of continuing embellishment of this story I'm warning of but as I'm probably the only person here who has had to handle GPS denial in flight what would I know?

I'm certainly hoping the "several hours" has been added by the media and wasn"t said by Rutte because the flight didn't circle for several hours...cut out the middle man/woman and the closest you can get to a.primary source is something like this;

https://x.com/flightradar24/status/1962565122326700178

Edited

Tbh that sort of info I personallyoften dismiss simply because so often other sources give different information or (as often happens) after some weeks or months another version comes out. When it comes from certain sources or when it fits with a pattern of events, or likely events, then I pay more attention.

Working from this basic it is clear r that this jamming is happening regularly, that while it's being coped with, indeed crew are having to find ways of handling it which should not happen when it's due to enemy action.

But most of all, the thing is (just to say again :) ) is that 1) this is a pattern of events, some of which are serious and having an effect and 2) this is the sort of thing where one day a tragedy might happen.

The enemies here are pushing for trouble, and they have achieved it. Whichever way you slice it, acting in such a way as this to hostilely affect the head of the EU's plane is a step too far.

Or it should be.

notimagain · 03/09/2025 14:10

@ReleaseTheDucksOfWar

By heck people are reluctant to disbelieve or even be slightly sceptical of the MSM. Under pinning all this is the fact that most in the media are pretty hopeless when it comes to anything technical.

I promise this is my last shot on this.

FirstlyTbh that sort of info I personallyoften dismiss simply because so often other sources give different information or (as often happens) after some weeks or months another version comes out.

Perosnally TBH I'd start by dismissing MSM reports.

The ADS data depicted in that X from Flightradar- a respectable tech site with imbedded SMEs.

It is coherent with the data available on the other ADS collecting sites (such as ADS-B),.the data itself having been downlinked from the aircraft..it's not likely to change no matter how long you wait.

What it shows is there's no holding, the circling you see is part of the set up for whichever instrument approach was flown (depending on reports it was either an ILS or a VOR)....both perfectly legit procedures,.not some form of emergency procedure.

One tech websites take on it here:

www.redhotcyber.com/en/post/was-there-terror-on-ursula-von-der-leyens-flight-lets-clear-things-up/

Natsku · 03/09/2025 14:15

Rumors had been circulating online about the US President’s health, with some even speculating he had died. [they have?!]

Oh they have, twitter has been a hot bed of death rumours the last few days. I ended up staying up late last night to watch the press conference (well the start of it. Trump annoys me so much I had to turn off) just to see if he really was alive still.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 14:56

@notimagain not sure if you saw my post sandwiched in between the Ukraine summaries, but the jamming is not the only issue.

There are Government reports of election interference, there are repeated reports of warnings from non-alarmist heavyweights like Rutte that Russia is an active threat and there seems to have been a credible plot to assassinate the CEO of Rheinmetall and other defense heads https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-official-confirms-russian-plot-kill-european-weapons-chief-armin-papperger/

Politico may not always be right but it is not to be automatically dismissed either.

There has been at least one case coming to court of a Russian recruited disaffected UK citizen attacking Ukrainian aid. I'm not counting the recent case against the six Bulgarians as spying certainly goes on in both directions. (https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/group-convicted-of-being-part-of-russian-spying-operation/)

NATO: There was officially a Russian plot to kill European weapons chief

Senior alliance official tells European Parliament about Kremlin threats to Europe.

https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-official-confirms-russian-plot-kill-european-weapons-chief-armin-papperger/

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 04/09/2025 08:27

@blueshoes the ISW seem to have changed the format of their website. Can you find the updates? the latest I can find is from 2nd september.

It wasn't broken, why do they feel the need to fix it grumble

Russian Offensive Campaign Update | ISW

Igotjelly · 04/09/2025 09:15

heldinadream · 04/09/2025 09:06

Well, this isn't scary at all, not at all (runs screaming from the room...)! 😱

Hot mic catches Xi and Putin discussing organ transplants and immortality - BBC News

It’s fairly well known that there’s a black market trade for the wealthy in organ ‘donation’ in China. I also don’t believe any of what we saw over the last couple of days was unscripted, there are no unknown ‘hot mics’ to get caught on.

I just see it as two arrogant old men trying to look scary and all powerful whilst just reminding us all that one day in the not so distant future we’ll be rid of them.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 04/09/2025 09:41

Don't executed political prisoners in particular end up 'donating'?

Kyiv Independent Telegram Highlights

⚡️Zelensky announces (kyivindependent.com/zelensky-announces-upcoming-talks-with-trump-on-strengthening-sanctions-against-russia/) upcoming talks with Trump on strengthening sanctions against Russia.

⚡️Trump tells Polish President Nawrocki he'll send more US troops (kyivindependent.com/trump-suggests-president-nawrocki-send-more-american-troops-to-poland/) to Poland.
"We will put more there if they want," U.S. President Donald Trump said during a meeting with Polish President Karol Nawrocki. "We are with Poland all the way, and we will help Poland protect itself."

Behind Ukraine’s manpower crisis lies a bleak new battlefield reality for infantry

⚡️ Russian economy hits 'technical stagnation,' (kyivindependent.com/russias-economy-hits-technical-stagnation-biggest-bank-chief-warns-zero-growth/) biggest bank chief warns of 'close to zero' growth.
The economy's slowdown follows repeated warnings from high-level Kremlin officials.

⚡️ Hot mic captures Putin musing about biotechnology (kyivindependent.com/hot-mic-captures-putin-musing-about-biotechnology-immortality-at-beijing-parade/), immortality at Beijing parade.
Russia's male life expectancy is just 67 years, while most of Russian President Vladimir Putin's inner circle is of similar age.

⚡️Ukraine plans to roll out (kyivindependent.com/ukraine-plans-to-roll-out-enhanced-military-contracts-for-soldiers-over-24-official-says/) enhanced military contracts for soldiers over 24, official says.
The offer may also be made available to those already serving in the Ukrainian Armed Forces, President Volodymyr Zelensky's Deputy Chief of Staff Pavlo Palisa said.

Fears of Russian hit campaign grow as another nationalist politician is murdered in Ukraine
(kyivindependent.com/andriy-parubiys-murder-may-be-part-of-russian-campaign-to-kill-ukrainian-patriots/)
The Aug. 30 murder of ex-Speaker and current lawmaker Andriy Parubiy was the latest in a string of killings and assassination attempts targeting Ukrainian nationalists and activists of pro-Western revolutions.

⚡️ Majority of Poles oppose (kyivindependent.com/majority-of-poles-oppose-ukraines-nato-accession-poll-shows/) Ukraine's NATO accession, poll shows.
Skepticism was high among rural residents, people over 50, those without higher education.

⚡️Putin insists (kyivindependent.com/putin-insists-he-never-rejected-meeting-zelensky-despite-years-of-dodging-talks/) he never rejected meeting Zelensky, despite years of dodging talks.

Trump-Zelensky minerals deal holds first board meeting as reconstruction fund moves forward
(kyivindependent.com/trump-zelensky-minerals-deal-holds-first-board-meeting-as-reconstruction-fund-moves-forward-06-2025/)
Ukraine and the U.S. held the first board meeting of an investment fund tied to a resources deal that has been a centerpiece of President Donald Trump’s administration’s talks with Kyiv in his second term.
The meeting on Sept. 3 launches the operations for the fund, designed to sustain American interest in Ukraine and help its war-torn economy with foreign investment now and for future reconstruction.

⚡️No regional centers captured, 1 million dead Russian soldiers (kyivindependent.com/no-regional-centers-captured-1-million-dead-russian-soldiers-ukrainian-official-responds-to-putins-threats-with-list-of-russias-military-achievements/) — Ukrainian official responds to Putin's threats with list of Russia's military 'achievements.'
Russia seized four Ukrainian regional centers in 2014, and has not managed to change that number after three and a half years of full-scale war, Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Heorhii Tykhyi said.

⚡️Russia’s Belgorod governor bans (kyivindependent.com/russias-belgorod-governor-bans-residents-from-posting-unofficial-drone-strike-footage/) residents from posting unofficial drone strike footage.

Russia and China’s 'multipolar world' raises nightmare scenario for Europe

⚡️'Cosplay of justice' — Russia sentences 4 Ukrainian POWs (kyivindependent.com/cosplay-of-justice-russia-sentences-4-ukrainian-pows-to-over-20-years-in-prison/) to nearly 30 years in prison.
The prisoners were accused of conducting sabotage and reconnaissance operations against military and industrial facilities within Russia, including the Shaykovka air base.

⚡️ Poltava Oblast authorities deny wrongdoing amid claims of $5 million in embezzled fortification funds. (kyivindependent.com/poltava-oblast-administration-denies-embezzling-nearly-5-million-in-fortification-funds/)
The refutal came in apparent reaction to an investigation published by lawmaker Yaroslav Zhelezniak, who claimed that at least Hr 200 million (nearly $5 million) were embezzled in last year's fortification contracts.

⚡️ Trump admits ending Russia's war in Ukraine (kyivindependent.com/trump-admits-ending-russias-war-in-ukraine-little-bit-more-difficult-than-he-expected/) 'little bit more difficult' than he expected.
U.S. President Donald Trump's comments come as his peace efforts enter their eighth month without results.

⚡️Update: 9 killed (kyivindependent.com/8-killed-6-injured-in-russian-artillery-strike-on-town-of-kostiantynivka-in-donetsk-oblast/), 7 injured in Russian strike on town of Kostiantynivka in Donetsk Oblast.

‪Ragnar Bjartur Gudmundsson 🇺🇦‬ ‪@ragnarbjartur.bsky.social‬
· 27m
⚡️ WAR IN UKRAINE & RUSSIA — SEP 4, 2025
■ Engagements & casualties slightly above average
■ Weekly total equipment losses remain at record level
■ Overnight attacks: Only drones, three in four intercepted
■ Improved strike ratio

Ukraine Invasion: Part 58
ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 04/09/2025 09:47

UNITED24 Media Telegram Highlights

“If Zelenskyy is ready for a meeting, let him come to Moscow — such a meeting will take place,” Putin said.

On the front lines, where russian drones track every movement, logistics and evacuations have become increasingly deadly.
The Khartia Brigade uses ground robots to carry out the most challenging and dangerous missions.
Together with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, we continue the Allies of Steel (u24.gov.ua/allies-of-steel?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=media&utm_campaign=allies) fundraising campaign for ground robots that save lives.

🗣 President Trump said he still wants to help Kyiv and Moscow reach a peace deal, despite uncertainty about the prospects for personal talks between President Zelenskyy and Putin.

Meeting of the heads of state and government of the Nordic-Baltic Eight. Meaningful discussions about our defense and security guarantees, — President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
“We discussed investments in weapons production, strengthening the capabilities of both ours and our partners, and expanding the PURL program. I thank the countries of Northern Europe that demonstrated leadership and were among the first to join the initiative. We also discussed security guarantees. We are working on a framework,” Zelenskyy said.

Ukrainian manufacturer of long-range missiles Flamingo to build rocket fuel plant in Denmark
The facility will be constructed near the Danish Air Force base at Skrydstrup, where Denmark’s fleet of F-16 fighter jets is stationed.

An Azerbaijani MiG-29 fighter jet has entered service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine during a combat mission.
This is one of three aircraft that were undergoing repairs in Ukraine at the time of the full-scale invasion.

🇨🇿 The Czech government has decided that one billion crowns (over 40 million euros) will be allocated annually as part of the Ukraine Recovery Program for the period from 2026 to 2030.
The funds will be provided through the National Development Bank and will be directed to humanitarian and reconstruction projects. According to Foreign Minister Jan Lipavský, this is “a flagship of the good name of the Czech Republic in the world.”

Ukraine’s Bohdana Howitzer Becomes Mass-Produced Arsenal, Output Steady at 30+ per Month (united24media.com/latest-news/ukraines-bohdana-howitzer-becomes-mass-produced-arsenal-output-steady-at-30-per-month-11342)
Ukraine’s defense industry plans to expand its Bohdana howitzer program, adding new variants to one of the country’s most widely produced artillery systems since Russia’s full-scale invasion, Defence24 reported on September 2.
Defence24 journalist Mariusz Marszałkowski stated that the manufacturer aims to mount the 155mm system on South Korean and German chassis, potentially including tracked platforms, and is developing a version with a 39-caliber barrel. These changes would diversify configurations and increase deployment options for Ukrainian forces.

Moscow advocates the formation of a new system of security guarantees for Russia and Ukraine, which would become an integral part of the overall security architecture in Eurasia, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said in an interview with the Indonesian newspaper Kompas.
The minister once again repeated the Kremlin’s propaganda narrative that “a lasting peace is impossible without eradicating the root causes of the conflict.”
“In order for peace to be lasting, the new territorial realities that emerged after the annexation (seizure and occupation — ed.) of Crimea, Sevastopol, the DPR, the LPR, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions to the Russian Federation as a result of referendums held there must be recognized and formalized in an international legal manner. Ukraine’s neutral, non-aligned and nuclear-free status must be ensured, that is, the conditions that are spelled out in the 1990 Declaration of Independence of Ukraine and on the basis of which Ukrainian statehood was once recognized by Russia and the entire international community,” Lavrov said.

heldinadream · 04/09/2025 09:49

@Igotjelly I like your take on it, thank you!

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 04/09/2025 09:51

Kyiv Post Telegram Highlights

“I will speak to Putin in a few days. I will know what’s going to happen,” Trump said, once again commenting on the potential peace settlement in Ukraine.
He also claimed that the Russians are advancing inch by inch, flooding everything with bombs and killing everyone.

European leaders and Zelensky will gather in Paris to coordinate a unified front against Putin (https://www.kyivpost.com/post/59430) — just days after the Russian leader vowed to continue the war if no peace deal is reached.

“I will not give Donbas to Putin,” Zelensky said.
“In four years, he hasn’t even managed to occupy 30% of the region. To take it, he would have to sacrifice millions of his own people. There will be no gifts.”

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 04/09/2025 09:53

Live: Ukraine Telegram Highlights

🇨🇳 China has supplied Russia with more than $60 million worth of drone components over the past two years, according to an investigation by The Telegraph.
The shipments took place between 2023 and 2024, as Moscow was building large-scale logistics infrastructure for its domestic drone program.
The Telegraph identified 97 Chinese suppliers that exported to Russia aviation engines, microchips, metal alloys, camera lenses, fiberglass, and other key components for drone production.
Nearly a quarter of these shipments went to sanctioned Russian firms operating in the “Alabuga” special economic zone.

🛢 In August, Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces carried out 17 attacks on oil refineries inside Russia.
In 11 cases, the operations were conducted jointly with military intelligence (HUR), Special Operations Forces, or other Ukrainian defense units.
▪️ On August 25, Reuters reported that Ukrainian strikes on 10 Russian refineries had knocked out at least 17% of Russia’s refining capacity — the equivalent of 1.1 million barrels per day.
▪️ On August 28, Unmanned Systems Forces commander Robert “Madyar” Brovdi said Russia’s refining capacity had decreased by 21% in just two weeks.

Zelensky believes that Ukraine could follow a South Korea–style scenario, where no true peace treaty was signed after the Korean War, yet the country achieved prosperity.
According to the president, as long as the current leadership of North Korea remains, South Korea will never be fully secure. At the same time, the country has many air defense systems that guarantee its safety.

First photo — Oleksandr Strafun right after russian captivity
Second photo — now, after 2.5 months at home with proper medical care and, most importantly, the unwavering support of his wife Olena.

Ukraine Invasion: Part 58
PiggyPigalle · 04/09/2025 09:59

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 03/09/2025 14:56

@notimagain not sure if you saw my post sandwiched in between the Ukraine summaries, but the jamming is not the only issue.

There are Government reports of election interference, there are repeated reports of warnings from non-alarmist heavyweights like Rutte that Russia is an active threat and there seems to have been a credible plot to assassinate the CEO of Rheinmetall and other defense heads https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-official-confirms-russian-plot-kill-european-weapons-chief-armin-papperger/

Politico may not always be right but it is not to be automatically dismissed either.

There has been at least one case coming to court of a Russian recruited disaffected UK citizen attacking Ukrainian aid. I'm not counting the recent case against the six Bulgarians as spying certainly goes on in both directions. (https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/group-convicted-of-being-part-of-russian-spying-operation/)

Plus the two Ukrainians accused of setting fire to Kier Starmer's property.
Not only is Russia showing us that sabotage is possible, but also discrediting Ukrainians in the process.

Igotjelly · 04/09/2025 10:36

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 04/09/2025 09:53

Live: Ukraine Telegram Highlights

🇨🇳 China has supplied Russia with more than $60 million worth of drone components over the past two years, according to an investigation by The Telegraph.
The shipments took place between 2023 and 2024, as Moscow was building large-scale logistics infrastructure for its domestic drone program.
The Telegraph identified 97 Chinese suppliers that exported to Russia aviation engines, microchips, metal alloys, camera lenses, fiberglass, and other key components for drone production.
Nearly a quarter of these shipments went to sanctioned Russian firms operating in the “Alabuga” special economic zone.

🛢 In August, Ukraine’s Unmanned Systems Forces carried out 17 attacks on oil refineries inside Russia.
In 11 cases, the operations were conducted jointly with military intelligence (HUR), Special Operations Forces, or other Ukrainian defense units.
▪️ On August 25, Reuters reported that Ukrainian strikes on 10 Russian refineries had knocked out at least 17% of Russia’s refining capacity — the equivalent of 1.1 million barrels per day.
▪️ On August 28, Unmanned Systems Forces commander Robert “Madyar” Brovdi said Russia’s refining capacity had decreased by 21% in just two weeks.

Zelensky believes that Ukraine could follow a South Korea–style scenario, where no true peace treaty was signed after the Korean War, yet the country achieved prosperity.
According to the president, as long as the current leadership of North Korea remains, South Korea will never be fully secure. At the same time, the country has many air defense systems that guarantee its safety.

First photo — Oleksandr Strafun right after russian captivity
Second photo — now, after 2.5 months at home with proper medical care and, most importantly, the unwavering support of his wife Olena.

That photo 🥰

notimagain · 04/09/2025 10:38

The warnings about the hybrid threat and grey zone activities have been around for some time now certainly in the specialist press and as court cases in the UK have shown it looks like the warnings are valid.

Having said that there's all sorts of speculation doing the rounds about the firebombing of Starmer's property, and I think it has to be said some theories don't assume Russian involvement...

It'll be interesting to see what comes out in court.

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 04/09/2025 11:02

It's well established that in fact some Ukrainians are being targeted and accepting Russian encouragement to acts of terrorism within Ukraine. Even better for Russia if Ukrainians outside Russia also do it.

There's also reward/blackmailing; the guy who shot the old Head of Parliament in Ukraine hopes to be exchanged for Ukrainian prisoners so he can look for the body of his dead son, and it's been known that Ukrainian wives have been promised their captive loved ones will receive better treatment if they will spy on military installations. Plus of course Russian agents pretending to be Ukrainian so that they point out an 'enemy of Ukraine' as a target ... who actually is loyal. Murky.

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