What’s going on in my Neighbours house?

[Ricepuddins]

Before I’m told to mind my own business, these neighbours are making our life hell with the noise they generate so it’s hard to not notice the strange things going on there. I work from home and my desk overlooks the close.
its a couple aged around 40 living there, they had a baby around 2 months ago but it hasn’t been seen since they came
home from hospital. I saw the woman take a car seat out recently but it was empty, it was still empty when she returned. So if there is a baby she must have left it home alone. We heard a baby cry once but it sounded like a much older baby around a year old, definitely not a newborn.
There are people coming over at midnight every day, they are very loud and don’t leave until around 2am sometimes. There are often children with them and it’s a school night. Some of the people who enter the house I don’t see leave. I have a ring doorbell that unfortunately picks up everything as our front doors face each other. There was a woman who stood out as she didn’t look anything like the couple or their family who seem to be their only visitors, she went into their house around 11 and I never saw her leave. That was a week ago.
The woman rarely leaves the house herself and I can hear her vacuuming for hours at a time. I’ve never met her and they moved in a year ago.
They do their gardening in the dark, no lights what so ever.
The man used to say hello to my husband every morning when they left for work but now he looks at the floor and doesn’t acknowledge my husband since he asked him about the noise.
not only does their constant noise affect us it’s starting to make me nervous about what sort of people they are. Mentally unwell or criminals is my guess. My husband thinks they are swingers. Although this doesn’t explain the missing newborn that has never experienced daylight.
Does anyone have any idea? Lighthearted speculation welcome. But it’s a genuine post and I don’t know if I should do anything or forget it, it’s making me uncomfortable tbh.

Yep had this near me too. they actually lived on the next street but the noise they made with their singing and clapping all fkin night until dawn on a very regular basis drove all the estate crazy. it was horrendous. was so relieved when they moved.

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@Utterlyconfusednow Thanks!

The noise is annoying but not what I'd be worried about, it's the thought of children being taken to someone's house between midnight and 2am, then taken away again. Just can't think how that could be innocent except as a one off, eg if there was an emergency in a relative's house and the parents needed to go round urgently. But as a regular thing...?

I'm so sorry for your loss. That scenario had occurred to me as well.

You can submit a report to Police online via the 101 thing, it'll be answered by Police staff. Doing it that way ensures you can put anything you believe relevant to what is going on rather than forget if calling 101 and speaking to an operator. Might be flags on the address already, you'll be adding to intel.

Where there are children involved I'd be loathe to do nothing.

I would've contacted the police.

Sadly I think you need to report

Even though you say - They aren’t friendly people and as I said they are very noisy and rude, I don’t think they speak English very well so communicating makes no difference - I would love bomb them. Gifts for a baby, including secondhand / used, is normal in every culture. A female neighbour asking if they can have a peek at the baby is normal too, even if it's viewed as nosy. Be super-friendly, you might be surprised at the response. They may not have been friendly before because they feel that they are being watched and judged, especially if they feel like the foreigners in the street.
I speak as someone who didn't get involved in the past and now my ex-neighbour is in prison for child neglect and her youngest daughter didn't make her second birthday. Emotionally, I feel a lot of guilt but, rationally, I had nothing concrete to report and social services were already involved. I still wish I had engaged and I suspect if you dothen it will put your mind at rest (mine was a very different situation to the one you describe).

You need to Google your local children’s services and put in your concerns. They will screen it and ask health for information. I’m sure there is a reasonable explanation but safeguarding is everyone’s business and if you suspect children being left home alone or neglected you must say something.

Nothing good. That’s for sure

What sort of constant noise is making your life hell other than hoovering and people coming and going. You say they are noisy but do you mean partying and playing loud music or happy screaming and shouting or arguing and rowing ?
Is it a big house? How many rooms?

Lots of non English speaking people coming and going at all times of the day and night and being in the garden at night with no lights makes me think of criminal illegal immigrants on the run… or maybe wider family members.

Thanks all, lots to consider and think about. I don’t want to be wrong and make accusations for nothing, but at the same time of course I don’t want children at harm. It’s actually the woman I’m most concerned about.
here we go with race assumptions 🙄 they don’t speak English well so this is why I can’t speak to them about their noise etc as they don’t understand. It’s nothing to do with them being ‘foreign’ in fact I’m one of the only white people on the close! They’re Asian possibly Thai? I don’t know much about their culture.
im not recording them 🙄 they have a ring door bell too. I get a lot of parcels for work so I check the camera often. I don’t see or record their garden either.
It’s a shame when you show concern for people that silly things are picked at.
appreciate the helpful responses, I’ll update when I’ve decided what to do.

What sort of noises, you mention vacuuming? Is it the normal day to day noises you'd expect a family to make, but just in the night time rather than the day? They need to be mindful of noise laws, but if it's not excessive noise, maybe they've changed jobs and now work nights or something?

I would guess maybe they are subletting if it's a rented house and there's different faces showing up (probably a more common occurrence than human trafficking in the UK). The lack of a baby made me think sadly it passed away or there's some sort of health implications and possibly in hospital, or the lady was a surrogate maybe? In some cultures, extended family and friends take a very hands on approach to raising children, so could possibly be she has someone watching the baby whilst she leaves the house?

If they've always been amicable with you in the past, I think it's fine to to speak with them to ask if everything is ok as you're hearing more noise from them at night than previously. Hopefully that will prompt them to keep the noise down at the very least and possibly put your mind at rest. Could it be that you're not at the desk and just not noticing when they leave the house. I had my neighbour start a pointless argument with me earlier where she told me I don't work full time, because she doesn't see me leave the house every day! Not something to say to someone who runs their own business, doesn't get annual leave and worked a 50 hour week last week. In reality, I work irregular hours; some days I'm out of the house for 12 hours and she's probably tucked up in bed when I'm getting in from work at almost midnight, then getting up at 7am the next day to go to work!

Ultimately, if your gut is genuinely telling you some thing is wrong and kids are involved, the right course of action to speak to 101 or social services for a second opinion.

Didn’t you say your husband had spoken to the man about the noise and now the man looks at the floor rather than at your husband?

I would think some sort of religious cult. I was watching a video last night of a similar story. They had a child who was diabetic they stopped her meds and thought they could cure her. She sadly passed away.

This. So much more helpful than “lighthearted theories”. Sorry to be a bore but if children are involved, it’s better to be safe than sorry and ask SS to check on them

You can report it anomalously x

Report them for the noise. Do it repeatedly until someone visits. They normally bring the police with them. You'll find out soon enough...

Any chance she was babysitting the baby for someone else? Did you ever see her pregnant?

I don’t know if anyone has mentioned this already but ring cameras don’t pick up everything even if it seems they do. They miss loads of episodes.

but apart from that I would also be intrigued/ worried even. I’d be monitoring and maybe reporting to authorities. It’s more than just nosiness when babies and children are involved

Are your houses joined? You say you can hear a lot of noise which suggests they're joined but that your front doors face each other. I'm trying to picture the layout but I'm probably being thick.

I honestly think this is ridiculous but I also think that as it is now in your head you need to take some kind of action to put your mind at rest. You fear something is amiss and yet report it on here like some kind of Netflix true crime mystery. Do something.

I had one where the living room and kitchen walls were adjoining the neighbour. In the hallway, the front door was facing my neighbours door - directly past each of our living room windows. Does that explain how it can be? Not sure if this is the OPs case though.