Why is everyone so angry at Labour?

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From what I understand they tried to cut (essential) benefits and put the money somewhere else. And what happened was labour MPs got angry, threat of resulting poverty in the population etc. So labour backtracked.

My questions are

1. they backtracked so doesnt that mean they get it?

B) weren't they trying to find money to fill a hole that must be filled?

C) How else could have they raised the money? High taxed- bad people get very annoyed NHS cant handle more cuts.

I'm guessing they thought that forcing people off benefits would stimulate the economy by forcing people 'back into work'.

Medication doesnt even exist for bpd you need dbt which my trust doesn't have and iv had periods where im ok with bipolar but even medicated I still have manic and depressive episodes it doesnt go away

I actually think the theory is that people aren’t working using pip to top their income up to ‘manageable not to work’ levels - so by making the criteria more strict, more people will be forced to look for work.

I have worked with people with these diagnoses. As long as they continue taking their medication and engaging with mental health services, there isn't a problem. The solution is supporting people to get into work and stay in it, not to hammer them with more cuts.

Of course that would mean the UK actually investing in its workforce, and it hasn't done that in decades.

The one benefit of watching my loved one suffer from anxiety was that I now have sympathy for others suffering from it.

I thought experiencing it would have a similar effect on anyone but I was wrong.

Antipsychotics and anti depressants are commonly used for BPD patients.

Agreed

That is exactly who Labour are. The proof is in what they do not what they say. The supposed black hole was discredited by many financial bodies. The BofE said the economy was going gangbusters before RR got to be chancellor. She is way out of her depth and she is a proven liar.

Absolutely. One of the best line managers I had was someone with BPD. It can be managed, although I agree that the provision of DBT needs to be the norm, not the exception in the NHS.

Bipolar and psychotic depression for example, there are others, postnatal depression

Its concerning you apparently work with these people and your not even aware their isnt medication for bpd youve also missed the fact all trusts are different we have an nhs postcode lottery so I cant get dbt on the nhs due to my postcode. Also in my nhs trust the cmht doesnt hold you, you come in and out so you will never get consistent nhs mental health services where i live.

They are used off label but their not medication to fix bpd which was originally stated

Yet RR did raise taxes NIC's on businesses which had catestrophic effects on the economy.

They are reflected a separate category in PIP claim data

I think it was more about how they were going to do it rather than reform in general.

The leapt into changing the criteria rather tan looking at things like maybe having more F2F assessments, or what was going wrong with the process

What did she lie about?

The answer then is to improve provision for people with BPD so that there is no postcode lottery.

I'm not clinical, but I work in a mental health Trust and my DS has BPD. So don't tell me I am not aware of what is and is not possible. I'm sorry you are so poorly provided for in your area, but it is not the same for everyone with your diagnosis. As I have said, one of my best line managers, senior in the NHS on a band 7 had BPD. She moved on to greater things. And one of the researchers I worked with, who worked herself up to a Ph.D, sustained a marriage and had a child, had paranoid psychosis. With good services, so much can be done. This is why the focus needs to be on improving the health services and investing in training and support, not on more cuts.

No, I have one as a diagnosis and it goes under the umbrella of 'depression and anxiety"

I suffered with acute anxiety various times throughout my life. Never claimed PIP for it, wasn't aware at the time that I could. Looking back I don't think money would have helped, it would have just made it easier to not have to face my fears which wouldn't have helped in the longterm.

I think the biggest cost is incompetent pip assessors which means a significant amount of people going to tribunal and 70% of cases being overturned that must cost an absolute fortune

What, in 3 months? I have no doubt there will be effects, but I would like to see some evidence of these catastrophic effects which have already happened and which could absolutely not have been triggered by the current and increasing global geopolitical instability.

You wouldn't be able to for acute anxiety as pip claims take months/years so you would be better by then. Also there is a significant difference between anxiety and anxiety disorder

On her CV claiming to have worked in a job for 10 years but actually only there for 6 years and in a different role.

Claiming to have published an article in a prestigious journal but only published in a minor journal.

These are pies she wrote in black and white. Who knows how many other lies she's told verbally she's clearly a proven liar.

Psychiatric Disorders
Condition
Number
Success
Mixed anxiety and depressive disorders
396,070
50.90%
Autistic spectrum disorders
212,847
68.05%
Learning disability global
171,971
89.91%
Mood disorders
144,304
54.40%
Psychotic disorders
128,545
69.69%
Hyperkinetic disorder
75,697
49.01%
Stress reactions
59,788
58.04%
Anxiety disorders
58,317
45.77%
Personality disorder
55,535
62.06%
Specific learning disorder
36,369
53.02%
Cognitive disorders
27,098
87.85%
Substance (mis) use disorders
17,127
62.52%
Obsessive compulsive disorder
10,787
54.01%
Eating disorders
7,677
68.42%
Somatoform and dissociative disorders
1,799
63.29%
Conduct disorder (including oppositional defiant disorder)
1,109
62.00%
Other psychiatric disorders of childhood
896
69.08%
Faecal soiling (encopresis)
54
26.80%
Enuresis
41
34.81%
Factitious disorder

Can I just ask geuinely what would everyones answer to the new cuts would be?
Instead of what the goverment have done (i.e mainly gone back on everything) what would you have done? Would you of kept the 4 point rule? Or have it so PIP couldnt be claimed for certain illnesses/disorders like depression or done something else entirely? for example.
I’m curious.

I agree with you. My DS gets higher rate PIP because he has serious physical disabilities (alongside the BPD, isn't he the lucky one). He was very lucky because he had an inch high stack of medical evidence, and he also have a very good assessor who had integrity. He got higher rate, a 10 year award, at the first time of asking. Everyone should have that quality of assessment.