Why are there so many men on this site?

[19ptrialprice]

There seems to be an increasing number of men on this website. These men appear to present themselves as straight cisgender men. This isn’t a trans issue. I don’t understand why a website that was created specifically for mums have a large number of men on it.

I understand why childfree women join as there are a lot of threads that are not about parenting. Childfree women will also use the site to get advice on TTC or miscarriage which are women exclusive, in the sense that women are the ones that give birth and also have to go through miscarriage. Men of course will experience child birth and grief but it’s the women, whose bodies have to experience this. Women have a shared experience of being a woman for example starting your period, growing breasts, TTC, miscarriage and menopause. Something that men’s body will never experience. Of course men are entitled to use this site but why should women have to put up with the men that are making sexist goady comments, which they are a lot of.

Should say this post is influenced by a man who told me to fuck off on this site after I called him out on his sexist behaviour.

most people understand it’s not a site exclusively for women, but convention over the decades is - whether you like it or not - that this is a predominantly female site. The fact that “dadsnet” was conceived evidences this.

Where do you get the impression that the majority want men here? Even on this thread the majority seem to be saying that they prefer this being a female space and I can think of multiple examples of the “I am but a mere naive man who’s wife doesn’t understand me” genre of post where MNers select out of engaging.

It’s exactly the opposite.

i adore the men in my life. But the vast majority who post on here (with a few notable exceptions who tend to be long standing interesting and engaging contributors) are absolute dicks.

and it is absolutely the fact that I have surrounded myself with interesting, erudite, witty men in RL that I refuse to engage with twattery on here.

Well put @DancingNotDrowning .

I think the majority of women on this site are happy to have men here. Just because a majority on these moany threads don't doesn't mean that the opinion is site wide. It's like the twitter effect: people assume that most people think like them because those people are very vocal. We've seen it from everything to Remain to the TRA movement.

Jobs being dominated by males is not the same as a website specifically set up for woman, there's a world of difference. On what planet is it normal to have to have a dick to be able to fix a tap, or put up shelves , or attach wires. By the same premise should men be discouraged from being cooks , teaching or nursing? Why would you presume I'd support anyone who thinks that way.

The mansplaining and derision on any thread involving politics is unreal.

"Moany". That's when you lost me.

Such dismissing of women's views.

If you're a man, meh.

If you're woman, Shame on you.

I'm a woman and 'moany' is a gender neutral term.

Very well said, and I agree entirely 👌

Like I said on another thread - they already think they own everywhere and everything. I also love a certain few men in my life, but honestly couldn't give a shiny shite about the rest, and certainly not here. I'm bored of them swinging their dicks around in so many other areas, watching them do it here as well angers me.

Agree @OPand I am unimpressed too.
they are clearly on lots of finance and money topics, and quite frankly I don’t give an X . They speak down to lots of women asking questions about savings and finance and call it child’s play. Obnoxious ogres

If only they would go away.

I never said it wasn't. Stop making shit up.

Wow, you're somewhat aggressive. How about you chill out and recognize the fact that other people are entitled to have a different opinion from you.

I was pointing out a fact, not an opinion.

You thinking something doesn't make it true.

That could be said to the people who assume that most people don't want men on here. Nobody really knows, and anyway it's moot because the site rules do not say it's a women only site.

Mumsnet has said they delete posts that has the word 'cis' in it if the post is reported.

Really?? Every post? Or only if it’s being used in a provocative or derogatory way?

One of the reasons I'm here is because a brilliant forum I was on, aimed at men, folded. It was called something like "Married Man Sex Life", obviously centred around sex within relationships, and was based in the US. A feature that made it so good was that it was heavily moderated: despite it being used mainly by men who were unhappy with their sex lives within an established relationship, there were very strict rules: no whingeing, no disrespect towards women, no promotion of infidelity, etc etc. These rules were strongly enforced. Unfortunately, the guy running it became ill and decided he couldn't maintain it. There were women on that site, and their comments and perspective were always valued. I came to MN to discuss what I'd been discussing on that site and have found MN to be pretty good, on the whole. If the rules changed and men were no longer allowed here, I'd leave without complaint. I appreciate all the feedback I've had from people (mainly women) here but I understand the annoyance some feel about the presence of men.

And another thing....

Sorry, I fell to ponderin'. One of the threads I've contributed to here is the Sexless Marriage Support Thread. If there were a similar thread on Dadsnet (which I didn't actually know existed) I don't think I'd learn anything from it. A load of blokes, moaning. However, listening to women's stories actually teaches me something - mainly that a woman in a sexless relationship feels just as bereft as a man. So, whaddya know! We've got something in common!

More generally, for every contribution I make, I read ten or more posts from women, and that can only be a good thing.

They fill the sex threads and sexless marriage threads, shocker.

I haven't seen you on the Sexless Marriage thread, so - congratulations! Men contribute to that thread; they certainly don't fill it.

Oh forgot to add, also the ones saying a woman is worse for snooping than the actual evidence found of husband cheating/being sleazy.

I've been castigated for saying that, in certain circumstances, snooping is justified. Definitely not worse than cheating.

This thread is not about the sex topics. It's about why men colonize this mainly woman space. See above.