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1,000 new PIP claims per day?

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flashbac · 30/06/2025 10:21

Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

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PhilippaGeorgiou · 09/07/2025 07:39

llizzie · 09/07/2025 02:17

They are mocking me too. I can't say right for doing wrong. I like to think I can take it, but why should I?

I was born a 2kg premature baby and started at a school for disabled children. It didn't stop me, but sometimes you have to admit defeat and make the most.

It isn't that it matters posting some info which has changed so rapidly or is wrong, but they won't let it rest if you do, and then when you do grovel, they don't like the way you grovel! Perhaps they just haven't had to fight enough in life?

I have had enough of this - everyone was asked nicely to stop the bunfight and you insist on going back to attacking others and suggesting that they have had an easier life of their disability which somehow makes your information right. Nobody asked you to grovel. And you didn't - you made personal attacks on people. You simply will not let the attacks go, so yes, I have reported you.

Ohthatsabitshit · 09/07/2025 07:48

My ds can’t drive so we have three family members on his policy but if we need carers to do it we can swap them in and out. We’ve never done it but the facility is there.

Crispynoodle · 09/07/2025 23:56

llizzie · 07/07/2025 17:39

What's the alternative to google, Ai and the rest? The local reference library? A subscription to Encyclopedia Britannica? How do you know they contain up to date facts?

Perhaps Hansard?

The fraudulent part of Ai is mainly the made up photos which discredit famous people. There is also fake news, but it has to be relevant to a subject in the news.

What would be the point in google Ai and others giving out wrong information to questions asked?

You need to become more educated in AI it can produce some very wrong stuff!

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Mumble12 · 10/07/2025 09:50

Crispynoodle · 09/07/2025 23:56

You need to become more educated in AI it can produce some very wrong stuff!

Exactly this, I was doing some stuff on Chat GPT the other day and it got the day of the week wrong. Something really simple but threw everything else out.

SerendipityJane · 10/07/2025 10:01

llizzie · 09/07/2025 00:07

The sad thing is that few employers want to be bothered with the disabled.

A real question for the government is how to persuade employers to employ disabled people?

Start with persuading society - employment is merely a crude prism of us all.

llizzie · 10/07/2025 16:16

SerendipityJane · 10/07/2025 10:01

Start with persuading society - employment is merely a crude prism of us all.

My mother never claimed benefit all her life for herself or me.

I didn't claim it either until I needed to employ help. Every penny is and has been spent in employing people and taking taxis.

It is all circulating in the community, providing employment for others. Those self employed pay taxes and it all goes round in the system.

llizzie · 10/07/2025 17:40

PandoraSocks · 30/06/2025 16:48

Yeah, I bet a lot of these twits posting shit about disabled people are the "does s/he take sugar" type. Happens to my DH even now.

I bet one of us gets deleted, yet MNHQ are happy to allow smearing of disabled people to stand, even suggestions that their cars should be marked out are OK for MNHQ.

So you make posts mocking the afflicted and accusing those who make errors to be ignorant, until they beg forgiveness, because you think more people will read the thread and mumsnet gets more advertising revenue out of the threads when they are 'spiced up a bit'?

Are you sure about that?

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 17:59

llizzie · 10/07/2025 17:40

So you make posts mocking the afflicted and accusing those who make errors to be ignorant, until they beg forgiveness, because you think more people will read the thread and mumsnet gets more advertising revenue out of the threads when they are 'spiced up a bit'?

Are you sure about that?

Have you quoted me in error? I haven't a clue what you are on about.

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 18:20

llizzie · 10/07/2025 17:40

So you make posts mocking the afflicted and accusing those who make errors to be ignorant, until they beg forgiveness, because you think more people will read the thread and mumsnet gets more advertising revenue out of the threads when they are 'spiced up a bit'?

Are you sure about that?

What on earth?

llizzie · 10/07/2025 19:19

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 18:20

What on earth?

What on earth indeed. It is posts about page 11

llizzie · 10/07/2025 19:19

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 17:59

Have you quoted me in error? I haven't a clue what you are on about.

Then you should look back at what you posted about page 11.

llizzie · 10/07/2025 19:22

llizzie · 10/07/2025 19:19

Then you should look back at what you posted about page 11.

Look at the quote history.

llizzie · 10/07/2025 19:41

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 17:59

Have you quoted me in error? I haven't a clue what you are on about.

OK put me right then. What did you mean? It was before I came on the thread. If I had seen your posts before I posted, I would have avoided the thread.

Kirbert2 · 10/07/2025 19:49

llizzie · 10/07/2025 19:41

OK put me right then. What did you mean? It was before I came on the thread. If I had seen your posts before I posted, I would have avoided the thread.

I was actively posting on that page at that time and I'm just as confused as @PandoraSocks

What did she mean by what? I don't see anything offensive from her, she was responding to someone who said PIP shouldn't exist at all.

llizzie · 10/07/2025 20:15

Kirbert2 · 10/07/2025 19:49

I was actively posting on that page at that time and I'm just as confused as @PandoraSocks

What did she mean by what? I don't see anything offensive from her, she was responding to someone who said PIP shouldn't exist at all.

Why would MNHQ be pleased?

Kirbert2 · 10/07/2025 20:38

llizzie · 10/07/2025 20:15

Why would MNHQ be pleased?

pp said it because there seems to be a lot of ableist comments allowed on mumsnet.

PhilippaGeorgiou · 10/07/2025 21:03

I have now reported one particular poster twice for continuing the goady posts after MNHQ specifically asked that the thread not be derailed. That poster has continued to derail the thread with ridiculous allegations against others that bear no resemblance to reality.

This is the reply I have been sent:
"Hello

The issue we're having is when reading the thread, every user is engaging with this poster. It makes it less of a derail and more of a two way discussion.
We'll keep an eye but on its own, this post doesn't overstep any of our guidelines.

Best wishes
Lily, MNHQ"

So basically if someone attacks other posters and makes spurious allegations that are patently untrue, everyone else is supposed to allow them to.

I think I will go back to the thread on The Salt Path. At least there I know who is lying.

perpetualplatespinning · 10/07/2025 21:09

And yet me calling another poster ‘immature’ in response to them repeatedly calling me ‘mummy’ was deleted because my post was said to ‘derail the discussion’.

K0OLA1D · 10/07/2025 21:10

They make some absurd decisions.

This thread is nearly done now anyway!

PandoraSocks · 10/07/2025 22:10

llizzie · 10/07/2025 19:41

OK put me right then. What did you mean? It was before I came on the thread. If I had seen your posts before I posted, I would have avoided the thread.

I have no idea what you are on about. What did I mean by what?

ARichtGoodDram · 10/07/2025 22:42

PhilippaGeorgiou · 10/07/2025 21:03

I have now reported one particular poster twice for continuing the goady posts after MNHQ specifically asked that the thread not be derailed. That poster has continued to derail the thread with ridiculous allegations against others that bear no resemblance to reality.

This is the reply I have been sent:
"Hello

The issue we're having is when reading the thread, every user is engaging with this poster. It makes it less of a derail and more of a two way discussion.
We'll keep an eye but on its own, this post doesn't overstep any of our guidelines.

Best wishes
Lily, MNHQ"

So basically if someone attacks other posters and makes spurious allegations that are patently untrue, everyone else is supposed to allow them to.

I think I will go back to the thread on The Salt Path. At least there I know who is lying.

It's ridiculous. The thread has been continually derailed, not to mention repeatedly peppered with incorrect "facts" about benefits.

It's a prime example of why there is so much misinformation about disability benefits out there - loud people are allowed to spout misinformation and be aggressive if corrected on many forums. Now MN as well.

llizzie · 10/07/2025 23:55

PhilippaGeorgiou · 30/06/2025 17:07

Yeah, I bet a lot of these twits posting shit about disabled people are the "does s/he take sugar" type. Happens to my DH even now.

Tell me about it. I have worked full-time (and paid taxes) for 46 years, never once been unemployed. Worked part-time from the age of 15. I hold two Masters degrees and a PhD. My best friend is a Director of People's Servies for an English local authority. And when we go out she gets very pissed off when I ask a question and people address her with the answer.

I bet one of us gets deleted, yet MNHQ are happy to allow smearing of disabled people to stand, even suggestions that their cars should be marked out are OK for MNHQ.

It's "educashunul" don't you know. Otherwise known as it's profitable for MN. Never mind the hatred, never mind the vitriol, never mind the offensive twats, feel the clicks and the money just keeps rolling in.

So it is all about being profitable, these elongated threads, boosted by bullying by groups of people who think they know it all and everyone else is ignorant and should be told so.

And how does it profit management? Do you mean that if enough people are preyed upon enough times and finally say ''enough'' it makes interesting reading to others and the thread gets a lot of 'hits'?

Presumably that means more ads appear and each time they do, MNHQ profits?

Do correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick.

K0OLA1D · 11/07/2025 00:40

llizzie · 10/07/2025 23:55

So it is all about being profitable, these elongated threads, boosted by bullying by groups of people who think they know it all and everyone else is ignorant and should be told so.

And how does it profit management? Do you mean that if enough people are preyed upon enough times and finally say ''enough'' it makes interesting reading to others and the thread gets a lot of 'hits'?

Presumably that means more ads appear and each time they do, MNHQ profits?

Do correct me if I have the wrong end of the stick.

So you DID quote the wrong poster

And what is so awful about what the poster you have quoted is beyond me

llizzie · 11/07/2025 01:26

K0OLA1D · 11/07/2025 00:40

So you DID quote the wrong poster

And what is so awful about what the poster you have quoted is beyond me

I didn't it was a conversation between you.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/07/2025 02:07
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This has been an interesting take on what a mumsnet thread could turn into. Well done to those who held out

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