1,000 new PIP claims per day?

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Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

But £1,000 per month isn't enough. It would have to be at least double that. My son's tiny one bedroom flat costs more than that, and that's before utilities, etc.

It would end up £1,000 PLUS housing allowances, PLUS diability benefit enhancements, PLUS extra for children, PLUS, PLUS, PLUS etc.

Then taxes would have to rise just to pay for it. It would also be inflationary for those currently with smaller incomes as they'd have money to spend.

So it would achieve nothing. Just re-arranging the deckchairs on the Titannic.

But you fail to think that most disabilities cost disabled people more money. A basic standard rate for everyone would be great - but not for disabled people for need more money to buy items for their disabilities.
example my child is a type one diabetic hes medications & CGMs are covered on the NHS but his hypo treatments, CGM patches, batteries for his monitors (we go through so many), his phone & data (that his cgm bounces back too) isnt covered.

In the 90s I remember a lot of people retiring in their early 50s. Retirement age for women was 60 if they didn't early retire. I'd expect there to be more PIP claims now people can't retire til they are older, as the older you get the more likely you are to develop a disability. We are an ageing population

It’s really not as hard to claim these days as people make it out to be.

I work full time in the nhs and have just been awarded PIP to help me pay for medical expenses during my joint replacements and periods of immobility during which I've been working online at home. I needed it to pay for carers, physio, a cleaner because I live alone and was bedbound for months.
But I can tell you the second I am up and running again I'll be coming off it.
Unfortunately some people seem to think benefits are a career path. They should only ever be given until the person concerned doesn't need them any more and I've met plenty that don't at work.
The ones who claim and don't really need to are making it tough for everyone else.

How do we afford to pay £1000 to every adult? And if whatever the amount is is enough to live on, how many will work?

Why are so many people turned down then? 70% go to tribunal and win, do clearly it's not as easy as you claim

If your answering to get enough points to get pip on just autism alone, the diagnosis report unless it has significant back history and if it did have significant that would show their struggles have been a long time, just a report alone with someone with “mild autism” is unlikely to be enough to satisfy.

It certainly isn't. I got it straight away. I am genuine though and its only a short term claim.

Money advisor here. I totally believe the statistic.

If it is 3.7m and has grown by over a million over the last five years, then 1,000 per day seems credible.

I would suggest that the government needs to look at supporting employers to make work more accessible first, rather than making changes to PIP.
I lost my job when I became disabled as my employers were unable or unwilling to make adaptations that would have allowed me to carry on working.
Since then (in the last 2 years) I have applied for over 500 jobs- of those I have had one interview. I was working for a large company, doing a stressful full time role before I became ill. I have an excellent reference from them and from companies I worked with in that role. No one wants to know now. I have skills that aren’t being used, and I am bored out of my fucking brain being stuck with nothing to do all day.
I don’t qualify for any other government help- all I have is PIP, without this I would be totally housebound as I wouldn’t be able to afford taxis. I am no longer allowed to drive and am not able to walk far. If I could secure a mythical work from home job (which I realise everyone on here hates, but realistically for me it’s the only option) I would gladly take it.
Its really not as simple as people don’t want to work ( and has been pointed out and ignored a million times YOU CAN GET PIP AND BE IN WORK)

Is there any evidence for it being young people?

Thats unsurprising though especially since covid which had a massive effect on everybody and isolated children/teens which will have had some effect. Yes its unsustainable but after managing a work force of 80 staff and the average age being under 24 - these young adults are illequipped for the world as we know it. Many lack no social skills, many have anxiety and cant seem to cope with basic things. We need to pull away from excessive smartphone use, tiktok, YouTube, social media influences which stops children gaining social skills and seeing the real world as opposed to everybody driving lamborghinis in florida

The rise in illness and disability is directly connected to poverty, to austerity - that undid support systems that helped people prevent illness, (like Sure Start), stay well (like effective meaningful social care and mental health support), and get better after illness and to Covid, which exacerbated and entrenched inequality. If we stop QT at the rate we are we could support people better, but Labour are tied to outmoded financial models that don’t bloody work. www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jun/29/britain-in-2025-sick-man-of-europe-battling-untreated-illness-crisis?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Unless youve made a claim for PIP you cant say that. 70 percent of people who apply get turned down.

Always always you get the comments on all platforms about 'getting people back to work', ignoring the fact that it can be given to people that DO work

Public transport can require a lot of executive functioning skills to successfully navigate.
Then there's the unpredictable nature of it, routine getting thrown off can cause dysregulation. And it is a sensory nightmare for some people! Personally i do struggle a bit with public transport myself I often just fully forget to get off the train at my stop despite thinking about almost nothing else the entire time... I use noise cancelling headphones for public transport too. Others will have more difficulty to the point where it wouldn't be feasible for them to use public transport.
work.. yeah balancing studying and work could be too much for some autistic people, after uni they'd only be doing one or the other so may be able to manage working or they may need to work part time. Also harder to find an accessible job around studying- most jobs like that are pretty social e.g bar work and retail

I'm audhd and ds2 is autistic and waiting for a bpd assessment. Our mental health is shocking at times (depression) and we're both on meds. Daily life is a struggle. He's at uni and I work three part time jobs. We don't claim anything. I don't see how it would help and I couldn't face the forms and process anyway. I can understand how physical disabilities cost the individual more money, but, tbh, the mental health problems not so much. I think these young people are using the pip money to avoid going to work. Work is difficult, I understand. I have to drag myself there quite often.

I think social media has also created a lifestyle alternative to working via benefits. There are benefit influencer coaches on Instagram for example. Lots of young women talking endlessly about their mental health struggles whilst looking happy and perfectly made up. Neurodiversity doesn't stop people from working in many cases. It's shit and life is a miserable struggle, but take meds and they help. The country is going to collapse if we're not careful.

People might think I'm knocking disabled people, but I'm not, I live it first hand and care for ds2. I see it from the inside and pip isn't the answer. It's becoming a bad temptation.

Actually, plenty of economic studies suggest than a living allowance to every adult would work and improve the economy and finances for everyone. I haven’t read any for a while but years ago, and they all pointed to this sort of thing working.

Liz Kendall can stop this national sickness www.thetimes.com/article/2d1c435d-5e46-466b-a728-d9b456efda39?shareToken=bc6f0fabffbaebea90b729a693691037 Worth reading by Fraser Nelson who’s also done a Dispatches on the benefits system.

My autistic daughter struggles with public transport because of her sensory needs. Smells, closeness to people, noise.

How much do you think people earn?

£2k a month after tax is about a £30k salary. That would be a startlingly high place to put the base income for UBI.

But again... you can work AND get PIP

It certainly isn't. I got it straight away. I am genuine though and it's only a short term claim.

A genuine claimant getting it straight away doesn't remotely show it's not difficult to get - that simply shows a working system.

Unless your suggesting your genuine claim had no evidence with it for them then to go on

Genuine claimants should get it straight away. Many don't. Hence the crazy amounts spent on appeals