1,000 new PIP claims per day?

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Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

Unless the rules have changed it’s £200 if under 80. Only over 80s qualified for £300.

The payment is between £100 and £300 depending on the person’s circumstances and age. You can see details in the link in my post at 18:20 yesterday.

She’s very secure. She has a mortgage free home and quarter of a million pounds in the bank. £80 a week isn’t making her secure. She’s not in a position where power of attorney is at all relevant.

@llizzie could you let me know where I said asylum seekers were a nuisance? Thanks

I know, I am over SPA, but the assumption in the post I replied to was that pensioners get £300.

It’s £200 per pensioner household for under 80s. DH and I got £100 each before it was removed, and will get it again this year as our income is way below the cut off. In an under 80 single person household it would still be £200. When DH becomes 80, he’ll get £200 and I’ll get £100. When/if we both reach 80, it’s £150 each, or £300 for a single person who is over 80.

OK. Since you only mentioned £200 and £300 I thought you didn’t know some get £100 or £150 rather than £200 or £300.

I’m in an active group for older people, I keep up with pensions and benefits. But thank you for posting the link. So many people state things that are incorrect. I also know that the Winter Fuel Allowance is something entirely different from the Cold Weather Payment. 👍🏽

Yes, some disabled people are eligible for Winter Fuel Payments, but it depends on their specific circumstances and whether they also receive certain other benefits. Those receiving Income Support, income-based Jobseeker's Allowance, or income-related Employment and Support Allowance, as well as those getting Pension Credit, are generally eligible. Additionally, those with a disability premium or a disabled child may also qualify according to the GOV.UK website.

Your link is about an entirely different payment, not Winter Fuel Payment.

You reply doesn't make sense.

''Winter fuel payment'' is mentioned on the first line of my post.

Then why doesn't she spend it if she needs it?

You know nothing about me. You have continued to twist my words. If you don't like what I say, say so, and correct me if I am wrong.

So far you have made so many insults. I have not had a bang on the head, I am not in any frenzy, political or otherwise. Is the only thing you can do is insult me because you don't like what I say!

Every comment I have made on here - and on other threads, you have intercepted and put your own interpretation on it. I have done nothing to you. I have received insults if you don't believe me.

At least while you are picking on me you are leaving some other poor soul alone.

I have never actually discredited muslims either. I have commented on the numbers of men coming across the Channel in boats and their ages. Yet you have publicly posted against me, and that is tantamount to libel. As far as immigrants are concerned, they do come here illegally in boats. They have been told. They are all young men: perhaps looking for wives in UK? The only muslim women they allow to travel with them are there for the purpose of being safer in the boats because the boats are not challenged if there is a woman or two among them.

If you had experience of Islamic terrorists, you would be worried too. Last night Parliament made the Palestine Support group a terrorist group, up to 14 years in prison. They want us to take refugees from Gaza and I object to that, along with thousands of others.

You reply doesn't make sense.

Winter fuel payment'' is mentioned on the first line of my post.

Yes @llizzie you're talking about WFP and your link "proving" your statement is actually about Cold Weather Payment.

An entirely different thing.

The link to the cold weather payments was included, yes, but it was appended to my reply to a post which said that only pensioners receive winter fuel payments, which is not so.

If I include a link to other benefits for the interest of other posters, does it matter? If it matters, why does it?

Do you expect me to type out the whole thing on the Government site?

Having said that, disabled people do get the cold weather payment if they qualify.

Did I say otherwise? I said they have to account for themselves when they apply. They have to say when they came, where they have been staying and what work they have been doing, or how are they financed.

If that isn't what happens, it should be. The government should know where people 'hide' before they come forward to apply for asylum.

I have said several times that my carers are immigrants and very nice they are too, kind and considerate. I have had my carer for six years, all through covid. If I was as nasty as am painted on this thread, would they stay sox years. I will tell you something else: they fear the boat immigrants.

Thank goodness the government have been successful in branding the Palestine support group as terrorists. That removes some of the fear decent citizens have.

I didn’t need you to link to the cold weather payments page on the government's website, I provided it to you in the post you were replying to!

You are wrong. Only people who are state pension age can receive winter fuel payments. I refer you to the link I provided earlier to the government’s page on winter fuel payments. Right there under eligibility it states “You can get a Winter Fuel Payment if you were born before 22 September 1959 and live in England or Wales.”

Winter fuel payments and cold weather payments are not the same thing.

Head...wall...bang...

On every subject going.

Did you say otherwise? Well yes you did. You said ...
"You posts gives the impression that it is possible to already be in UK to claim asylum.
Wouldn't you have to tell them when you came, how you got here and where you were living while here?
Arriving in an airport or port and immediately claiming asylum is really the only way, because you can prove you just arrived."

You then went on to say the @Mumble12 was wrong, and I have shown they were not so you are now back tracking and making up stuff entirely, then saying that if the stuff you have made up "isn't what happens, it should be". And there is absolutely no evidence that these people were "hiding" as you claim - I have already explained how this happens, so I won't do so again.

I will tell you something else, my dad never met an immigrant he didn't like either - it was, just like you, all the others he despised and hated. If you spend too much time devouring racial hatred, that is what you turn out to spew. Your carers are paid to look after you, and as professionals they do their job - it is no indication at all that they like or agree with you.

Just because they claim doesn’t mean they get an award lots are jumping on the ADHD/ mild depression bandwagon
This will all change for new claimants and the most seriously disabled who’s conditions will never improve will be spared reassessment which will save money and time
i I can’t grow the motor neurone part of my brain or stabilise my mood
I have moderate Cerebral Palsy and rapid circling Bipolar disorder( which is more disabling than CP actually)

The link to the cold weather payments was included, yes, but it was appended to my reply to a post which said that only pensioners receive winter fuel payments, which is not so.

If I include a link to other benefits for the interest of other posters, does it matter? If it matters, why does it?

Do you expect me to type out the whole thing on the Government site?

It is so that only pensioners receive winter fuel payments.

Including a link suggesting it backs up your statement that disabled people receive WFP when it doesn't is, at best disingenuous, and at worst just outright trolling people

If you're adamantly making a statement about a benefit's qualifying criteria then it's expected that your link to back that up would be about said benefit... that's just basic logic

The issue here is that you cannot post a link backing up your statement about winter fuel payments because your statement is wrong

I think the thread is very obviously being trolled now

AI Overview

In 2024, Winter Fuel Payments in England and Wales were restricted to households receiving Pension Credit or certain other means-tested benefits. This means that not all disabled people would have received the payment. Previously, all pensioners were eligible, but the changes aimed to target the support towards those with lower incomes.

The changes for 2025 have just been announced. The above is still valid until winter this year.

Because AI is never wrong, eh?

And this is exactly why caution needs to be applied when using AI.

What you quote does not say working aged disabled people are entitled to winter fuel payments. Neither does it say working age disabled people were eligible this year. They aren’t and they weren’t.

You can see the eligibility criteria for the winter just gone (winter of 24/25) here. As you can see it says
”You may be eligible for the Winter Fuel Payment in the winter of 2024-2025 if you meet all of the following criteria:

• you were born on or before 22 September 1958
• you receive Pension Credit, Universal Credit, Income Support, income-based Jobseeker's Allowance or income-related Employment and Support Allowance, or an award of Child Tax Credit or Working Tax Credit of at least £26 for the tax year 2024-25
• you were living in England or Wales for the qualifying week.”

Again, winter fuel payments and cold weather payments are different things.