1,000 new PIP claims per day?

[flashbac]

Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

The Telegraph article was clever with words. Said claimants "with conditions such as acne". Not "were given PIP for acne".~

Whatever source this is, has misrepresented the findings in their first line.

That could very well explain it then.
People have to put down everything but not everything is relevant.

Back to hype then it seems

I suspect that if people with acne and writers cramp are getting PIP it's because it's just listed amongst multiple conditions
My son has very complex needs and gets HRC,HRM,one of his conditions is constipation,I wouldn't dream of applying for DL A for constipation alone
But I had to list it on the application,form I can see how the media might spin it as a person with constipation getting the highest rates at DLA.

and this is how they whip up a frenzy.
Do they not think just occasionally we’d ( the public) like reporting without the hype.
Most of us can cope with processing the truth

Try again - UC is not a disability benefit. It has a premium for those people with long term health conditions and disability (those not being the same thing of course). Lots of people on UC do not get that premium and still qualified for the WFA. But UC is not a disability benefit. The only benefit for disability is PIP. PIP was not a qualifying benefit for WFA.

Intelligent people would like that. But some people just love to be angry I think.

I think the notion that the shortcomings of your own life are someone else's fault is very easily swallowed...and sells papers!

(a) The PM and his government have not suggested violence against the disabled or burning the disabled where they live.

(b) 72% of people arriving in small boats have accepted asylum claims, yet not only asylum seekers and refugees but also people who were born here are abused by the public as a result of the kind of racist rants seen posted on this thread and elsewhere - some of them by you. Is it right that they should be abused for the sake of "the occasional applicant who slips through", to use your own turn of phrase?

No you didn't.

The article quite cleverly implies that, but says that people with acne get it. It's outright shitstirring on behalf of the newspapers.

My DD gets PIP with asthma and GERD. However she gets it for narcolepsy. Her asthma and GERD will be listed in stats as she is obliged to mention every condition she has. At one point her heavy periods that she had meds for will have been included in a stats.

So someone with acne gets PIP. Even the Telegraph doesn't say for acne.

This kind of obvious shit stirring is something that intelligent people should be able to see and there should be outrage at the blatant shit stirring and bordering hate speech from some of the media

Tell me you know NOTHING about PIP without telling me.

Also you are exactly the outraged middle England type these papers rely on as you are incapable of reading between the lines and understanding things.

Must be frustrating being you.

They won't be back. They seem like they just drop shitty comments to get a reaction then bow out

I work as a PIP assessor. When I call clients, I am advised to ask them about their worst days.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

I bet you also have to explore how many days are worst days though so you can consider whether they meet the descriptor the majority of the time.

My assessors have all been absolutely lovely. Ive never had a bad experience during an assessment. They have always asked about my worst days. How often I have them, what im able to do on my best days etc.

The people I've spoken to are not robots and they're certainly not thick. I can imagine they can tell when they are speaking to people talking truth and lived experience and the ones trying to pull the wool over their eyes.

I agree that the government (and the media) are attempting to alienate the public against the disabled. It's a shame that so many people fall for it so easily.

This thread and others floating about at the moment, proves that point so easily

For crying out loud @Viviennemary. Why do you keep wasting your own time and that of others with this drivel?

Didn't quote for some reason
Red: Fightback

They really don't advise that at all, in fact they very much advise against doing that as it wouldn't be representative of an average time and would be fraud if not worst case scenario all the time.

Granted yes you do pay for their VIP services but that's a)no guarantee you'll be awarded and b)when it is difficult to claim it doesn't hurt to have welfare advisors and layers to advise you.

It’s not fraud if someone says “please describe your worst day” and the person literally describes their worst day!

Jesus Christ!!!!!

They AREN’T saying it is how they feel every day!!!

Oooh you’ve apparently committed fraud according to@KitTea3🙄🙄🙄🙄

Yes. And, with that, we are able to come to a holistically reasonable assumption based on the evidence provided by the applicant 👍

Well according to some I shouldn't even be getting it for RA, especially if I (gasps) work! So I may as well add fraud on my list of why I'm and awful human

Not half as frustrating as watching this disastrous government.

It gives them a good excuse for raising taxes in the autumn.

I can predict Ms Reeves - if she is still there - announcing that as she was stopped raising money from reducing benefits to the disabled, the only thing she can do is raise money in other ways, namely by taxation.

Anyone with a brain cell can write the script.

If you cannot see that, I am sorry for you and any explanation would be wasted.