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1,000 new PIP claims per day?

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flashbac · 30/06/2025 10:21

Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

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justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 08:55

@x2boys good for you, we had a 12 month waiting list for the dexcom. We also have to buy patches or the sensors dont stay on his arm and dexcom have stopped replacing so many sensors, the patches arent cheap as he cant use the cheaper verisons as they cause a rash.
no it doesnt mean theyll get the dla - but we all know some do slip through the net who dont really need dla.

x2boys · 02/07/2025 08:56

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 08:55

@x2boys good for you, we had a 12 month waiting list for the dexcom. We also have to buy patches or the sensors dont stay on his arm and dexcom have stopped replacing so many sensors, the patches arent cheap as he cant use the cheaper verisons as they cause a rash.
no it doesnt mean theyll get the dla - but we all know some do slip through the net who dont really need dla.

Did they not suggest the Libre free style instead ,I thinking cheaper than the Dexcom?

PlipPlapPlop · 02/07/2025 08:57

@x2boys you’re probably on the same Facebook group I’m on. The advice on there for how to qualify for high rate is always “do a sleep diary”, and yes, many are successful doing it this way. It’s ridiculous.

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x2boys · 02/07/2025 09:07

PlipPlapPlop · 02/07/2025 08:57

@x2boys you’re probably on the same Facebook group I’m on. The advice on there for how to qualify for high rate is always “do a sleep diary”, and yes, many are successful doing it this way. It’s ridiculous.

I guess ,but they would also have to have evidence that child is disabled in the first place
I have seen some people putting in claims for the most ridiculous things ,one poster was asking about her toddler ,who was " hard work" another was asking about her child who.had been placed on the SEN register at school ,no other needs just a bit behind, another person was asking if a diagnosis of dyspraxia proved severe mental impairment for HRM
I don't think any of them have been awarded. and they just waste every ones time.

CandidLurker · 02/07/2025 09:13

caringcarer · 02/07/2025 08:50

He has quite severe learning disability so cognitive based therapies won't work for him due to his low cognitive ability and levels of understanding.

Oh ok. Yes that sort of therapy is a non-starter for him then. That’s a shame. Exposure therapy really works but he wouldn’t be able to cope with it or anything based on a staged plan.

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 09:23

@x2boysno, the libre isnt as good as dexcom the numbers when we tested it were always out of whack. Id be getting 3.8 and hed actually be 14.2 for example with all the libres we tried. We even tried the dexcom patches that come with the sensors they lasted a day before peeling off its just one of those expenses that needs must unfortunately.

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 09:24

Oh gosh dont get me started on those who try for HRM for dla. So many wasting time going through expensive tribunals to be told no dont meet any of the citrea! Those dla groups are poison most of the time.

x2boys · 02/07/2025 09:26

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 09:24

Oh gosh dont get me started on those who try for HRM for dla. So many wasting time going through expensive tribunals to be told no dont meet any of the citrea! Those dla groups are poison most of the time.

Agreed .

PlipPlapPlop · 02/07/2025 09:27

Yeah the HRM (my son does qualify through SMI). They don’t listen though when you try to explain their children don’t fit the criteria (which is obviously very tough).

x2boys · 02/07/2025 09:30

PlipPlapPlop · 02/07/2025 09:27

Yeah the HRM (my son does qualify through SMI). They don’t listen though when you try to explain their children don’t fit the criteria (which is obviously very tough).

My son gets it too ,but as you say the criteria is very strict for a good reason
Every time I Read post where the poster claims they know there child meets the criteria ,and it's abundantly obvious they don't I inwardly eye roll.

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 09:40

😂 yes! My son meets the citerea for smi and was awarded from 3 years old, its like if your child would meet it they would just award you wouldnt have to go trolling through facebook to get wrong answers off strangers who dont know your child! Its very cringe especially when most of these people dont even know what SMI means!
maybe the goverment ought to look at people like that wasting money through pointless tribunals, they would save so much. Instead now our kids are the ones who will miss out on LWRCA payments thanks to the new money bill. Honestly its disgraceful.

my t1d/incontient child is entilted to HRC as im up through the night doing corrections & hypos nearly every single night he was awarded Mrc i just accepted it (as im up with my severely autistic who has a sleep disorder teen anyway) rather than fight for it. Honestly they are letting so many people get away with murder and thats what they should of be targetting not geuinely disabled children/adults.

x2boys · 02/07/2025 09:48

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 09:40

😂 yes! My son meets the citerea for smi and was awarded from 3 years old, its like if your child would meet it they would just award you wouldnt have to go trolling through facebook to get wrong answers off strangers who dont know your child! Its very cringe especially when most of these people dont even know what SMI means!
maybe the goverment ought to look at people like that wasting money through pointless tribunals, they would save so much. Instead now our kids are the ones who will miss out on LWRCA payments thanks to the new money bill. Honestly its disgraceful.

my t1d/incontient child is entilted to HRC as im up through the night doing corrections & hypos nearly every single night he was awarded Mrc i just accepted it (as im up with my severely autistic who has a sleep disorder teen anyway) rather than fight for it. Honestly they are letting so many people get away with murder and thats what they should of be targetting not geuinely disabled children/adults.

I have Diabetic older son ,and my youngest son has severe autism and learning disabilities,and gets HRM under SMI too!.
It annoys me when they say they don't know how to get evidence to prove their child is SMI, if your scrabbling around for evidence than your child doesn't meet the criteria .

TigerRag · 02/07/2025 09:50

It's similar in the pip groups. You can tell that some people are trying too hard to get enhanced mobility

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 09:59

TigerRag · 02/07/2025 09:50

It's similar in the pip groups. You can tell that some people are trying too hard to get enhanced mobility

Yes. Once again if your entitled to high mobility youd get it. To many people asking how to word things on the forms. It is seriously alarming.
also i see a lot of “use the worse day as your every day” for the forms, which is fraud. 🙈 dwp would save so much money if they just looked through those groups.

Fsfaava · 02/07/2025 10:03

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 07:49

You are not wrong. I see one post asking about DLA as they wanted to get a gaming console for their child. 😕
meantime joe bloggs over here having to buy CGM patches, hypo treatments, special foods due to type one diabetes (cant have certain carb food like normal rice), incontience pads, so many underwears dhe to contience, pecs, now & next cards, sensory equipment, ive brought 5 beds in the space of 10 years as theyve all been destoryed, sensory clothing etc, the list goes on. Some do take the piss with dla.

I feel on reflection the people using disability money for a console would be a very small %

Mumble12 · 02/07/2025 10:12

llizzie · 01/07/2025 23:34

So I presume you think £218 a week enough to live on?

The disabled did not get the winter fuel payment and were means tested for it just as the elderly were. I can vouch for that.

Neither is the money spent on accommodating fit young men of military age who pay people smugglers to get to Britain, for whatever purpose they have in mind, sustainable.

It is more out of hand than PIP claimants..

Can I ask (although its not at all relevant to this thread), why the "fighting age" trope is always dragged out? Do you not think men over the age of 18 deserve protection? Or do you think they're coming here to build an army and 'take over' which is what I hear endlessly from people that use this line?

Boat crossings have been an issue for years, what are all these secretly trained army waiting for?

Kirbert2 · 02/07/2025 11:07

Seymour5 · 02/07/2025 07:06

Not everyone will be familiar with the different types of disability benefits, what they’re called, and who can claim them. The benefits system isn’t easy to understand, especially for those who have never claimed anything. I learnt, when working for a local authority, about disability benefits. That’s when I realised that DH should have been receiving them some years previously, when he was severely incapacitated by a heart attack, then bypass surgery.

The woman at the JobCentre where I enquired about any entitlements told me he wouldn’t get anything because I worked. We were unaware that disability benefits, unlike out of work benefits, were not means tested. I believed her because I didn’t know any better. He’d definitely have qualified as we found out too late.

Yet are amazingly able to decide who should or shouldn't qualify for PIP/DLA.

Kirbert2 · 02/07/2025 11:15

x2boys · 02/07/2025 09:07

I guess ,but they would also have to have evidence that child is disabled in the first place
I have seen some people putting in claims for the most ridiculous things ,one poster was asking about her toddler ,who was " hard work" another was asking about her child who.had been placed on the SEN register at school ,no other needs just a bit behind, another person was asking if a diagnosis of dyspraxia proved severe mental impairment for HRM
I don't think any of them have been awarded. and they just waste every ones time.

I was going to say, I'd assume that more evidence than just a sleep diary for HRC would be necessary, especially as MRC covers some night care as well if I remember rightly.

I've also seen people say on the DLA FB group that sleep diaries alone usually aren't good enough.

I didn't do any sleep diary and my son gets HRC (and HRM but that was the ''easy'' one because he is 9 and can't walk).

PhilippaGeorgiou · 02/07/2025 11:16

TigerRag · 02/07/2025 08:44

Some disabled people were able to claim the warm home discount. It was then decided that those of us who lived in small flats don't qualify. Thankfully this has changed

Yes, but again that was based on means testing and not on disability. I am not amongst the poorest of pensioners, but I have to admit to being glad of the U-turn on WFA. It isn't much but it helps. Given my disability is affected by cold, I can't reduce the fuel usage as much as someone able-bodied and younger - even multiples layers and fleeces don't cut it. So every little helps. I couldn't claim the Warm Home Discount as I wasn't poor enough.

PlipPlapPlop · 02/07/2025 11:20

Have a look how many say “I didn’t send any evidence for night time needs, I just sent in a sleep diary”.
I didn’t send any evidence of night time needs, it does say in his EHCP that he is sometimes dysregulated because they think he is tired (he’s entirely non verbal so he can’t say he is).
I also told them (truthfully) that he gets 4-5 hours sleep on average a night.
The sleep diary is absolutely a thing.

Fsfaava · 02/07/2025 11:33

I think I need to change my view on PIP. I think my original views were way way too harsh and now I can understand the plight of the disabled. I was thinking to myself if I got hit by a car or got diagnosed with some degenerative disorder by view would be very different.

I've read that sometimes you can just get a degeneration disorder out of nowhere.

deadpantrashcan · 02/07/2025 11:34

justkeepswimingswiming · 02/07/2025 09:59

Yes. Once again if your entitled to high mobility youd get it. To many people asking how to word things on the forms. It is seriously alarming.
also i see a lot of “use the worse day as your every day” for the forms, which is fraud. 🙈 dwp would save so much money if they just looked through those groups.

Claimants are actively encouraged, by those who work in the industry, to describe your worst day, to highlight the extent your disability can impact you.

The advice is NOT to say that this is how you feel “every day.” The advice is to not shy away from telling us about your worst days, because we are actually quite understanding when it comes to flare ups.

But sure, continue to post emojis to reinforce your joke of a contribution to this thread.

Viviennemary · 02/07/2025 11:35

Just read article in Telegraph people are getting disability payments for acne and writers cramp. I despair. Is this April fools day. Beyond madness.

Kirbert2 · 02/07/2025 11:35

PlipPlapPlop · 02/07/2025 11:20

Have a look how many say “I didn’t send any evidence for night time needs, I just sent in a sleep diary”.
I didn’t send any evidence of night time needs, it does say in his EHCP that he is sometimes dysregulated because they think he is tired (he’s entirely non verbal so he can’t say he is).
I also told them (truthfully) that he gets 4-5 hours sleep on average a night.
The sleep diary is absolutely a thing.

I know it's a thing but just as many warn against it as well without any additional evidence in my experience.

Mine is on TPN at night which can (and does) sometimes occlude because picc lines are a pain in the arse so it has to be sorted. He also has to be changed a few times during the night and needs meds at 6am so I had plenty of night time needs evidence.

TigerRag · 02/07/2025 11:36

Viviennemary · 02/07/2025 11:35

Just read article in Telegraph people are getting disability payments for acne and writers cramp. I despair. Is this April fools day. Beyond madness.

And you believe everything you read in the paper?

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