1,000 new PIP claims per day?

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Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

If that’s true, crikey. Why?

In Britain we call it maths.

The next thing to go will be the discount for single occupancy on Council Tax.

That will affect single parents, because minor children don't count, worth an average of £50/60 a month on a band D house.

We tend to say dental surgeries as well, rather than dental clinics...

That was a rumour that was doing the rounds last year, before the autumn budget.

I get PIP and work part time. I struggle to work full time due to impact of my health. If I could work full time, I would but currently this isn’t feasible due to my health.

i use my PIP towards cost of charging my equipment, buying/replacing equipment as needed and to help towards household costs. People don’t realise the cost of specialist equipment for the disabled compared to your every day equipment.

For example you can buy a bog standard fire alarm for under £20. For a specialist one for the deaf you are looking at £100 plus as need to buy the alarm and then the alerting system on top of that such as a pager that vibrates and flashing lights to wake you. People often say that your local authority will provide this, but it’s not the same across all areas as depend on their budgets and what they are willing to provide.

I am worried if changes are made to PIP I will lose it, if I don’t have the right paperwork or know the right jargon that tick the boxes.

I get why the government are looking to overhaul the benefits system due to how much it is costing us as a country. However targeting the most vulnerable is not going to solve the problem.

There also need to be a shift by employers in how they can best support those with disabilities in their jobs by ensuring the workspace is accessible for their needs, but also to be flexible in hours worked.

Was that reply meant for someone else?

No, I'm talking about illegal immigrants (who then will often claim asylum when they are discovered to be here illegally.) Completely different to someone arriving and seeking asylum straight away, it has the whole additional issue of decisions made or forced on them in order to survive without detection until discovered.

My foster son can't us public transport. He can't travel in a coach either. He has huge anxiety especially about germs. He doesn't like people near to him. He likes to be driven in car he cleans a lot but he sits in the back of the car alone.

Why don't they tell us how many people are thrown off PIP every day? And how many claims end when the recipient dies?

Also, why can't we just raise taxes? I genuinely don't understand that. We are a low tax country compared to many other European nations - we pay vastly less than places like France and Denmark. Their rich haven't left and their society hasn't collapsed.

ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/how-do-uk-tax-revenues-compare-internationally

The article you posted is re total tax revenue though as a % of GDP
its not / person for example.

our revenue is due to rise to 37.7% as a result of recent tax changes which will put us higher up the scale and above all G7 countries

Its also worth noting as a country we just aren’t that productive both in terms of business and individually.
We used to be, just not so much more recently. ( I’ve only posted two pages of the article but there’s more to explain why ….I can’t link )

Thanks - I'll have a read of this. It may take me a while to wade through all my brain fog but it looks depressing interesting.

So rude.

If you have a disability it costs more money. The funding is there to create a level playing field. It’s to acknowledge that disabled people have costs to meet that non disabled do not.

People like you need to spend time with a family who has disabled family members. Then you would think twice about comments like this.

I tell you what, I spent time looking after NT kids and I was amazed at what those kids could do for themselves that mine can’t.

You are just out of touch, clueless and lacking in empathy.

Do not assume that you yourself are immune to disability or illness.

I hadn’t even thought of that, thank you.

edit that sounded sarcastic. It isn’t!

Not everyone will be familiar with the different types of disability benefits, what they’re called, and who can claim them. The benefits system isn’t easy to understand, especially for those who have never claimed anything. I learnt, when working for a local authority, about disability benefits. That’s when I realised that DH should have been receiving them some years previously, when he was severely incapacitated by a heart attack, then bypass surgery.

The woman at the JobCentre where I enquired about any entitlements told me he wouldn’t get anything because I worked. We were unaware that disability benefits, unlike out of work benefits, were not means tested. I believed her because I didn’t know any better. He’d definitely have qualified as we found out too late.

Obviously it is impossible to refer you back to your now deleted racist rant, or to refer to what it quite erroneously asserted. It's also hysterical that you think I haven't studied monarchy and Parliament. But I will just point out yet again that not only are you wrong, but it appears you are incapable of reading your own reference to Wikipedia. In summary, and I quote, "Unlike in most countries, no official attempt has been made to codify such arrangements into a single document, thus it is known as an uncodified constitution. This enables the constitution to be easily changed as no provisions are formally entrenched". The Monarch does not swear loyalty or to uphold a constitution that does not exist, it is not a "Christian constitution" (because there is no constitution), and you have it the wrong way around because what comprises that which is called a constitution (basically a collection of things as they stand at that point in time) is based on current laws - they are not based on it because they cannot be. The "constitution", such as it is, is a moveable beast that changes pretty much daily.

I am somewhat bemused as to why you keep maintaining so many things trhat are proveably untrue.

You are not wrong. I see one post asking about DLA as they wanted to get a gaming console for their child. 😕
meantime joe bloggs over here having to buy CGM patches, hypo treatments, special foods due to type one diabetes (cant have certain carb food like normal rice), incontience pads, so many underwears dhe to contience, pecs, now & next cards, sensory equipment, ive brought 5 beds in the space of 10 years as theyve all been destoryed, sensory clothing etc, the list goes on. Some do take the piss with dla.

@llizzie The disabled did not get the winter fuel payment and were means tested for it just as the elderly were. I can vouch for that.

The disabled have never got winter fuel payment and I can vouch for that. Those of state pension age and those on certain means-tested benefits were given WFA, but disability has never been a qualifying factor. Those with disabilities received it because of their benefit, not because of their disability. I receive PIP and have never received it - this year will be the first year I get it because I only reached state retirement age last year and lost it when the rules were changed.

That’s great for your son. In Scotland, surgeries are telling patients that there is no option for shared care. There is also no right to choose. It’s private diagnosis and private medication or nothing.

Not everyone has the same experiences.

Has he ever had any treatment for this level of anxiety? Contamination fears can be treated effectively with CBT, exposure therapy, maybe an anti-depressant too.

very sad that a young person’s life is being limited in this way.

They absolutely do take the piss with DLA. My son receives high rate care (£110 a week). To qualify for high rate they have to have care needs through the night, so many are claiming their children wake through the night and therefore qualify, and send a “sleep diary” to the DWP as proof.
High rate care also means an extra £495 a month top up if they’re on universal credit. The wait times now for a decision are ridiculous due to the volume of people putting claims in, or a change of circumstances. There needs to be a better way of verifying claims but I don’t know how.

Some disabled people were able to claim the warm home discount. It was then decided that those of us who lived in small flats don't qualify. Thankfully this has changed

He has quite severe learning disability so cognitive based therapies won't work for him due to his low cognitive ability and levels of understanding.

Many people do put in very tenuous claims for DL A ,I see it daily on the Facebook group im.on it doesn't mean they are successful though does it?
As for CGM,s for type 1 diabetes,my son was prescribed a Dexcom within weeks of being diagnosed.

Not everyone will be familiar with the different types of disability benefits, what they’re called, and who can claim them. The benefits system isn’t easy to understand, especially for those who have never claimed anything. I learnt, when working for a local authority, about disability benefits. That’s when I realised that DH should have been receiving them some years previously, when he was severely incapacitated by a heart attack, then bypass surgery.

The woman at the JobCentre where I enquired about any entitlements told me he wouldn’t get anything because I worked. We were unaware that disability benefits, unlike out of work benefits, were not means tested. I believed her because I didn’t know any better. He’d definitely have qualified as we found out too late.

And it's entirely fair enough that people don't know all the ins and outs. It's a difficult system, and quite possibly made deliberately so.

However, people shouldn't then be demanding changes to PIP on the basis of their believed misuse of another benefit (with very different criteria) and claiming that it's not disinformation when their error is pointed out to them.

There are enough misconceptions about actual the actual PIP process without adding in issues with DLA or AA or ESA or any other benefits.