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1,000 new PIP claims per day?

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flashbac · 30/06/2025 10:21

Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

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K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 18:32

I am aghast at some of these comments. I really fucking am.

The complete lack of care or even want to understand someone else's circumstances is mind-blowing.

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 18:33

K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 18:30

Wow. I have been crippled with arthritis since my teens.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about at all.

You have no idea what living with RA is like. For the people and their families. Its debilitating. Crippling. Life ruining.

Replied to the wrong quote - but am in full support that your RA is serious, and debilitating.

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 18:35

K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 18:32

I am aghast at some of these comments. I really fucking am.

The complete lack of care or even want to understand someone else's circumstances is mind-blowing.

It’s mental, isn’t it. Truly disgusting.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

ladyamy42069 · 01/07/2025 18:35

elliejjtiny · 01/07/2025 17:50

My son gets DLA for ADHD. He's 14 and has less freedom than I did aged 8. He barely remembers anything that he is supposed to like brushing his teeth and the shower is a daily battle. He needs constant supervision to make sure he doesn't do something monumentally stupid or hit his brother in frustration. He also doesn't sleep.

How would money help with that though?

ladyamy42069 · 01/07/2025 18:36

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 17:44

Because the short attention span can limit someone’s ability to work.

ADHD is also not simply just a case of having a short attention span. It can be a case of having 4 voices in your head, at all times, which is mentally draining and exhausting. It can be a case of overthinking every single thing you do, and feeling a little like OCD.

Some can flourish in the workplace. Some cannot.

PIP isn’t designed to replace wages, though. It’s to help with the costs that your disability incurs.

K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 18:39

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 18:33

Replied to the wrong quote - but am in full support that your RA is serious, and debilitating.

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Its ok. I knew you were responding to the shitty comment of the pp.

People really dont understand arthritis. And the absolute hell it can be to live with

Mumble12 · 01/07/2025 18:40

Fsfaava · 01/07/2025 18:25

No. But I've had really bad anxiety at times. But what I do is that I think about all the good things in my life, think about happy memories and it goes away.

Sometimes I use YouTube, TV and watch some sport to take my mind off it

Oh this has to be a wind up.

XenoBitch · 01/07/2025 18:40

ladyamy42069 · 01/07/2025 18:35

How would money help with that though?

No one applying for PIP is asked that by the assessor. What gives you the right to ask?

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 18:40

Viviennemary · 01/07/2025 18:26

Money should only be available for those with serious conditions. I hadn't a clue you could claim it for athritis. No wonder there is no money for the NHS.

So what is your definition of serious? Do you realise that arthritis can be very different for different people? My aunt DIED aged 26. Arthritis. I don’t have a single memory of her without her two crutches.

From childhood until 26, she struggled immensely. Still found a way to be a wonderful, empathetic person in the time she was alive. I’d love to hear you tell my grandmother that the support she received before death was undeserved because she “only had arthritis.” Again, not everyone is the same and awards are based on HOW IT IMPACTS PEOPLE, NOT ONLY THE CONDITION ITSELF. For reasons just like this.

Mumble12 · 01/07/2025 18:42

ladyamy42069 · 01/07/2025 18:35

How would money help with that though?

If he needs constant supervision to do these tasks…someone has to do it. That costs money.

in the case of my daughter, her adhd prevents her accessing her education in the same way neurotypical children do, so support with tutoring to keep her on par with her peers would be useful and allow her the chance at a ‘good’ job when she leaves school. She is intelligent, just doesn’t learn well in the way that mainstream state school allows for.

callingtown · 01/07/2025 18:42

unpopular opinion here but I think a lot of young folk have zero resilience and are easily stressed and anxious. I have a bad skin condition ( I don’t claim pip or any benefits) I understand how anxiety can be crippling- I suffered it and I understand however, benefits wouldn’t cover my bill and suooort my children so I have to plod on regardless. I think you people get caught in a cycle they can’t don’t want to get out of. My opinion of course

x2boys · 01/07/2025 18:43

Viviennemary · 01/07/2025 18:26

Money should only be available for those with serious conditions. I hadn't a clue you could claim it for athritis. No wonder there is no money for the NHS.

What do you class aa a serious condition?
Agsin it will be how the condition impacts a person not the condition itself.

LadyKenya · 01/07/2025 18:44

XenoBitch · 01/07/2025 18:40

No one applying for PIP is asked that by the assessor. What gives you the right to ask?

This. I personally would not dignify her post by answering it. People demand to know how people utilise their PIP, and then go on to denigrate what they are told.

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 18:46

ladyamy42069 · 01/07/2025 18:36

PIP isn’t designed to replace wages, though. It’s to help with the costs that your disability incurs.

No, it isn’t enough to replace wages.

I am literally a PIP assessor, so you don’t have to tell me how it works.

Some people need to be able to reduce their hours, due to their disability. PIP can make up the shortfall.

For someone so interested in the topic, it’s surprising how little you seem to understand it?

Mumble12 · 01/07/2025 18:46

Unpopular opinion here. People who think PIP is being paid to people who don’t want to work despite having it explained that’s not its purpose on multiple occasions are really tiresome

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 18:48

callingtown · 01/07/2025 18:42

unpopular opinion here but I think a lot of young folk have zero resilience and are easily stressed and anxious. I have a bad skin condition ( I don’t claim pip or any benefits) I understand how anxiety can be crippling- I suffered it and I understand however, benefits wouldn’t cover my bill and suooort my children so I have to plod on regardless. I think you people get caught in a cycle they can’t don’t want to get out of. My opinion of course

This whole thing of “plodding along.”

Do you think people on PIP don’t work, or have no bills to pay? That it is some kind of lottery win?

Honestly, good for you that you were able to plod along. Your conditions can’t have been serious enough for you to need to claim PIP. Therefore you didn’t. The end.

Kirbert2 · 01/07/2025 18:52

Mumble12 · 01/07/2025 18:42

If he needs constant supervision to do these tasks…someone has to do it. That costs money.

in the case of my daughter, her adhd prevents her accessing her education in the same way neurotypical children do, so support with tutoring to keep her on par with her peers would be useful and allow her the chance at a ‘good’ job when she leaves school. She is intelligent, just doesn’t learn well in the way that mainstream state school allows for.

My son starts with a Maths tutor in September. He doesn't have ADHD but he has missed a lot of school due to his disability so needs something extra to help him catch up.

It's exactly what DLA/PIP is for.

Fsfaava · 01/07/2025 18:54

XenoBitch · 01/07/2025 18:28

Everyone gets anxiety. It is normal.
An anxiety disorder is very different to "having bad anxiety at times".

Fair enough.

callingtown · 01/07/2025 18:55

That’s half my point though @deadpantrashcan I’m of the persuasion that a lot of people could ‘plod on’ but don’t because it’s an easy option to claim. I hate using the whole “I know people that abuse it” but you know what… I do! People that really suffer and need help should get it by the bucket load but there are always those grey areas that people exploit. Did I hear on the news people can claim pip for acne? I mean come on!

K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 18:59

callingtown · 01/07/2025 18:55

That’s half my point though @deadpantrashcan I’m of the persuasion that a lot of people could ‘plod on’ but don’t because it’s an easy option to claim. I hate using the whole “I know people that abuse it” but you know what… I do! People that really suffer and need help should get it by the bucket load but there are always those grey areas that people exploit. Did I hear on the news people can claim pip for acne? I mean come on!

No you didnt.

XenoBitch · 01/07/2025 19:01

callingtown · 01/07/2025 18:55

That’s half my point though @deadpantrashcan I’m of the persuasion that a lot of people could ‘plod on’ but don’t because it’s an easy option to claim. I hate using the whole “I know people that abuse it” but you know what… I do! People that really suffer and need help should get it by the bucket load but there are always those grey areas that people exploit. Did I hear on the news people can claim pip for acne? I mean come on!

I heard that on the radio too (about claiming for acne), then callers went on to say that really bad acne could have the knock on effect of causing a great deal of anxiety about going out, and even depression.

No one is claiming just for acne.

x2boys · 01/07/2025 19:04

callingtown · 01/07/2025 18:42

unpopular opinion here but I think a lot of young folk have zero resilience and are easily stressed and anxious. I have a bad skin condition ( I don’t claim pip or any benefits) I understand how anxiety can be crippling- I suffered it and I understand however, benefits wouldn’t cover my bill and suooort my children so I have to plod on regardless. I think you people get caught in a cycle they can’t don’t want to get out of. My opinion of course

I assume your bad skin condition didn't stop you from caring for yourself cooking ,cleaning, traveling independently?
My son had acute necrotizing pancreititis a couple of years ago so bad it completely destroyed his pancreas and hes now an insulin dependent Diabetic
But he can't claim PIP because he ,doesn't meet the criteria, becsuse for the umpteenth time it's how the condition affects you not the condition itself

K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 19:05

XenoBitch · 01/07/2025 19:01

I heard that on the radio too (about claiming for acne), then callers went on to say that really bad acne could have the knock on effect of causing a great deal of anxiety about going out, and even depression.

No one is claiming just for acne.

Exactly. It would be how the acne impacted the rest of the person's life. It could cause terrible anxiety in a person. Some people can deal with some anxiety. Some people can be crippled with anxiety. Triggered by absolutely anything. Something so small and inconsequential to one person could be crippling to another.

elliejjtiny · 01/07/2025 19:05

Just as an example, when my dc were little we bought a climbing frame/swing/slide combo for the garden. Not sure how much we paid but it would cost around £300ish now. Last year we had to replace it with something similar but strong enough for a fully grown man to play on. It cost £3000. He enjoys soft play and one soft play near us kindly lets him come to the special needs sessions even though he is 3 years too old. Special needs sessions are only once a month so the rest of the time we have to go to a trampoline park which is 3 times the price.

vdbfamily · 01/07/2025 19:08

Fluffycloudsfloatinginthesky · 30/06/2025 10:38

My ex claims PIP. I am not denying that he has MH issues (ADHD undiagnosed until recently). However I do feel that the availability of PIP has meant that he’s not thinking about how he could get back to work, he’s quite content doing nothing. His PIP was downgraded and he’s just busy fighting to get it out back up so he has money. No thoughts on what support he could get to get back to work.

I have discouraged my DD with ADHD from claiming as she needs to earn money and that is the only thing that gets her out of bed. She feels exhausted all the time, it's awaiting an ADHD review, takes antidepressants and I can see how her life is more expensive as she is never organised enough to allow time for breakfast, pack a lunch etc and constantly buying meal deals and ready meals. She misses bus to work as cannot get up and then has to get taxi. All things that could be argued to qualify for PIP but if she was awarded it, she would not only never work again but probably not get out of bed, which is where she spends most of her time off not working a shift or attending Uni.
Her need for an income forces her to get up and go to work. Giving similar people PIP is very counter productive for them and completely unsustainable.
I think a system, like other countries have, where you scrap PIP but allow people with disabilities to claim back certain expenses, would save us millions

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