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1,000 new PIP claims per day?

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flashbac · 30/06/2025 10:21

Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

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Fitasafiddle1 · 01/07/2025 17:30

its totally and utterly unsustainable. The whole system is going to collapse, and then those that really do need the help will be completely stuck.

ladyamy · 01/07/2025 17:33

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 17:18

Here we go. So, I’m autistic, and my brother is severely autistic with very high support needs. He doesn’t understand where it’s acceptable to go to the toilet, and doesn’t understand the value of money, often handing over £20 notes to shop keepers and leaving without change. To him, £2, £20, £50… it’s all the same. He’s very vulnerable. I am less so. It’s quite different for a lot of people. He will never be able to work, so PIP could be quite useful for him.

In terms of how PIP can help other people with these conditions:

Autistic individuals may struggle with social interactions and understanding social cues, making communication challenging. Difficulty in adapting to changes in routine can lead to anxiety and distress. Many may find everyday tasks like cooking, cleaning, and personal hygiene overwhelming.

Students with ADHD may struggle to concentrate, which affects their ability to complete tasks, follow instructions, or stay organised. Challenges in planning, organising, and regulating emotions can hinder their ability to manage daily responsibilities.

High levels of anxiety and depression are common, further complicating their ability to function daily. Many autistic individuals have heightened sensory sensitivities, making certain environments overwhelming.

They may require additional support and accommodations in educational settings, which can sometimes be inadequate.

I’m unlikely to convince those who simply just don’t understand how this can impact individuals, but it astounds me that we seem to consistently go 3 steps forward with these conditions, and then 5 back.

Financially, though? I can understand maybe for autism- taxis, particular clothes and particular foods, but ADHD? How on earth will money help a short attention span?

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 17:44

ladyamy · 01/07/2025 17:33

Financially, though? I can understand maybe for autism- taxis, particular clothes and particular foods, but ADHD? How on earth will money help a short attention span?

Because the short attention span can limit someone’s ability to work.

ADHD is also not simply just a case of having a short attention span. It can be a case of having 4 voices in your head, at all times, which is mentally draining and exhausting. It can be a case of overthinking every single thing you do, and feeling a little like OCD.

Some can flourish in the workplace. Some cannot.

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elliejjtiny · 01/07/2025 17:50

ladyamy · 01/07/2025 17:33

Financially, though? I can understand maybe for autism- taxis, particular clothes and particular foods, but ADHD? How on earth will money help a short attention span?

My son gets DLA for ADHD. He's 14 and has less freedom than I did aged 8. He barely remembers anything that he is supposed to like brushing his teeth and the shower is a daily battle. He needs constant supervision to make sure he doesn't do something monumentally stupid or hit his brother in frustration. He also doesn't sleep.

x2boys · 01/07/2025 17:51

Fsfaava · 01/07/2025 17:21

At some point with anxiety you just gotta tough it out and deal with it. Like yes seek support but at some point you just have to deal with the difficulties of life and tough it out.

I knew a lad at school who's anxiety was so bad at times. But thankfully he got the right support and the right medicine and he did so well at school and at university.

Well good for him
But for the umpteenth time it's not the condition, it's how it impacts you
So if your condition/ disability, means you can't care for your self ,cook ,clean or undertake a journey independently from A to B then you should be entitled
If it doesn't you wont be.

Mumble12 · 01/07/2025 17:54

ladyamy · 01/07/2025 17:33

Financially, though? I can understand maybe for autism- taxis, particular clothes and particular foods, but ADHD? How on earth will money help a short attention span?

For the millionth time, if someone has no additional needs, they won’t get help. It isn’t a one payment for all with a particular diagnosis.

BetterHairisOnlyFair · 01/07/2025 18:01

I agree with those who think ADHD is really badly named and should be renamed as Executive Function Disorder - it affects executive function broadly and causes difficulties in almost every area of life. It goes far beyond struggling to concentrate (which is debilitating in itself). Many with ADHD struggle to prepare food, remember to eat, take medications and take care of themselves and where these symptoms are extreme they should get as much help as someone who struggles with these things on account of a physical disability. Some people think ADHD is a minor inconvenience. It really isn't.

cornishcoasting · 01/07/2025 18:04

ARichtGoodDram · 01/07/2025 14:55

So are all health conditions that someone has included even if it doesn’t limit ability enough to get PIP? E.g. someone with M.E. may become depressed or grieve their previous life, but they wouldn’t be awarded PIP on the depression element, yet depression would still show in the stats?

All conditions are included in reports so I have always assumed they are included in stats as for some people they'll play a part in the totting up of points.

My DD is convinced she shows in stats for people receiving PIP for asthma and/or GERD as both as listed on her forms and it annoys her. Neither are remotely relevant to what she receives it for (Narcolepsy) and she wishes she could leave them off the form, but you have to include everything and they show on her prescription list

Thanks for explaining. That’s helpful for those of us who haven’t been through the process.

cornishcoasting · 01/07/2025 18:09

and thank you to @PhilippaGeorgioutoo.

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 18:10

Mumble12 · 01/07/2025 17:54

For the millionth time, if someone has no additional needs, they won’t get help. It isn’t a one payment for all with a particular diagnosis.

Exactly. Both my brother and I are autistic. Only one of us needs PIP, because he has many additional support needs that I do not.

MidnightMeltdown · 01/07/2025 18:11

Ohthatsabitshit · 30/06/2025 10:30

68million people in the uk if whom 3.7million received PIP

That’s more that 5% of the population! Shockingly high given that people claim it’s so hard to get. No wonder tax payers are getting hammered.

Leftrightmiddle · 01/07/2025 18:12

Fsfaava · 01/07/2025 17:21

At some point with anxiety you just gotta tough it out and deal with it. Like yes seek support but at some point you just have to deal with the difficulties of life and tough it out.

I knew a lad at school who's anxiety was so bad at times. But thankfully he got the right support and the right medicine and he did so well at school and at university.

That's contradictory.

The person you mention hardly had to tough it out. He got the right med and support.

Now very few get the right med or the right support which Leeds to burnout and trauma.

XenoBitch · 01/07/2025 18:13

MidnightMeltdown · 01/07/2025 18:11

That’s more that 5% of the population! Shockingly high given that people claim it’s so hard to get. No wonder tax payers are getting hammered.

If you think it is easy to claim, then do it.
More people are entitled to claim, but wont because they can't face it.

Leftrightmiddle · 01/07/2025 18:14

Fitasafiddle1 · 01/07/2025 17:30

its totally and utterly unsustainable. The whole system is going to collapse, and then those that really do need the help will be completely stuck.

Maybe society needs to change so that disabled people are valued and don't have to fit square pegs I yo round holes

K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 18:14

MidnightMeltdown · 01/07/2025 18:11

That’s more that 5% of the population! Shockingly high given that people claim it’s so hard to get. No wonder tax payers are getting hammered.

What's shocking is some of the shit spouted on this thread.

SerendipityJane · 01/07/2025 18:15

Leftrightmiddle · 01/07/2025 18:14

Maybe society needs to change so that disabled people are valued and don't have to fit square pegs I yo round holes

Don't be silly.

deadpantrashcan · 01/07/2025 18:19

Leftrightmiddle · 01/07/2025 18:12

That's contradictory.

The person you mention hardly had to tough it out. He got the right med and support.

Now very few get the right med or the right support which Leeds to burnout and trauma.

Or being consistently dismissed. Before diagnosis, I was prescribed sleeping pills and sent on my merry way. Couldn’t get more than 7 minutes with my GP, so never long enough to go into full detail regarding my symptoms. In my 7 minute consultation, it was decided that I was just chronically tired. Hence the sleeping pills. I had to fight very hard to be heard, and ended up writing a two page letter, to get round the 7 minute consultation time, and that was only because I had my partner to support me. I can only imagine how easy it would be to give up, or do worse to yourself, without having someone to back you.

Ohthatsabitshit · 01/07/2025 18:20

MidnightMeltdown · 01/07/2025 18:11

That’s more that 5% of the population! Shockingly high given that people claim it’s so hard to get. No wonder tax payers are getting hammered.

Well you must have been living a charmed life if you thought disabled people were rare. What do you suggest we do about it?

TigerRag · 01/07/2025 18:23

MidnightMeltdown · 01/07/2025 18:11

That’s more that 5% of the population! Shockingly high given that people claim it’s so hard to get. No wonder tax payers are getting hammered.

1 in 5 people are disabled so hardly a shock

Of course some of those 1 in 5 will be on DLA or attendance allowance

Fsfaava · 01/07/2025 18:25

Mumble12 · 01/07/2025 17:25

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say you’re not a registered medical professional 🫠

No. But I've had really bad anxiety at times. But what I do is that I think about all the good things in my life, think about happy memories and it goes away.

Sometimes I use YouTube, TV and watch some sport to take my mind off it

Viviennemary · 01/07/2025 18:26

TigerRag · 01/07/2025 18:23

1 in 5 people are disabled so hardly a shock

Of course some of those 1 in 5 will be on DLA or attendance allowance

Money should only be available for those with serious conditions. I hadn't a clue you could claim it for athritis. No wonder there is no money for the NHS.

K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 18:27

Fsfaava · 01/07/2025 18:25

No. But I've had really bad anxiety at times. But what I do is that I think about all the good things in my life, think about happy memories and it goes away.

Sometimes I use YouTube, TV and watch some sport to take my mind off it

Ah brilliant. You bloody solved it! Watch some YouTube and all your anxiety will just poof! Disappear

XenoBitch · 01/07/2025 18:28

Fsfaava · 01/07/2025 18:25

No. But I've had really bad anxiety at times. But what I do is that I think about all the good things in my life, think about happy memories and it goes away.

Sometimes I use YouTube, TV and watch some sport to take my mind off it

Everyone gets anxiety. It is normal.
An anxiety disorder is very different to "having bad anxiety at times".

XenoBitch · 01/07/2025 18:29

Viviennemary · 01/07/2025 18:26

Money should only be available for those with serious conditions. I hadn't a clue you could claim it for athritis. No wonder there is no money for the NHS.

Arthritis can be serious and very debilitating.
Again, it is not about the diagnosis, but how you are affected.

K0OLA1D · 01/07/2025 18:30

Viviennemary · 01/07/2025 18:26

Money should only be available for those with serious conditions. I hadn't a clue you could claim it for athritis. No wonder there is no money for the NHS.

Wow. I have been crippled with arthritis since my teens.

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about at all.

You have no idea what living with RA is like. For the people and their families. Its debilitating. Crippling. Life ruining.

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