1,000 new PIP claims per day?

[flashbac]

Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

Report them?

We do understand, every third post is telling us.

No. That’s not me. I judge people by my standards and they surprise me or they don’t. I’m not going to snitch on people. Obviously if it was a safety or child issue, I wouldn’t hesitate.

Well, ain't that the case (eyes Jeff Bezos and his ilk)

(a) Just because you think someone has no difficulties doesn't mean they don't.
(b) So your standards are to support fraud?
(c) If you are quite certain they are lying and you won't report them then you are part of the problem.

I have to admit I think my view on PIP is softening a lot now.

Having one arm doesn’t automatically mean you’re eligible for pip. Many can manage very well and don’t meet the criteria.

Some people who look perfectly fine cannot function without a great deal of support.

You don’t have to see the disability for it to have a huge impact on someone.

I can't believe that this has to be explained to adults.

Being an adult is no guarantee of intelligence or compassion.

Regarding your point on there being a lot of info on what to say to get a positive decision. You can say whatever ever you want at the health assessment but if it's not backed up by strong evidence - such as hospital letters - The DWP decision makers won't believe anything you say. It is incredibly hard to get PIP.

Come on now, not all bigotry and stupidity is visible 🤭

True.

Rubbish. There's hundreds of people on this site who have never applied for PIP (yet) and they each know loads of people who got PIP without any medical evidence. All you do is write "I want PIP" at the top of the form (just after your name) and the DWP send you £hundreds and a Porsche by return. So it is clear that you are delusional.

Edit - you might be able to get PIP to help with your delusions. Have you thought of applying?

Thanks for mentioning long covid. It is astonishing how much this is (deliberately?) left out of the disability conversation by politicians and the media. Each wave disables more people, yet it’s rarely factored in! Do people really think that even tens of thousands of kids randomly decided to pretend to develop health issues after one of their covid infections?! There are millions affected by long covid to varying degrees in England right now - irrespective of age or previous health status. The silence is ridiculous.

I agree. I don’t understand why the focus is on PIP. Surely it would make more sense to try and get non working, non disabled people into jobs? I think the growth of single parent families has put more households in financial difficulties (it took two wages for us even back in the 80s to have a reasonable income) and young people need to be educated about realistic financial options before they have a child.

Volunteering in a charity shop for years since I retired, I’ve seen a succession of people who’ve come to get experience, to have something to put on their CV, or to just get their confidence back. Some have gone on to find work, both in and out of the charity. It’s been great to see them succeed. Others use it as a tick box exercise. Sadly, some of the young, who’ve never had a job, seem lack a work ethic, have little general awareness of working life, and are accepting of a life lived mainly on benefits, second, third generation.

😂😂

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As you rightly suspect, this post is not going down well, at least not with me.

I wouldn't describe the increase in autism and ADHD diagnoses a trend, any more than I would call the increase in diabetes diagnoses a fad or trend. The increase in neurodivergent diagnoses reflects an increase in understanding both among the medical profession and the general public . I would give social media a large part of the credit for the improved understanding among the public.

I have autism, ADHD and a chronic illness, all of which were diagnosed in my 50s. According to my ADHD doctor (a consultant psychiatrist) the undiagnosed and untreated ADHD and autism have probably in part caused the rather serious chronic illness.

So, I would say these diagnoses really matter.

I'm not sure I would qualify for PIP with just ADHD and autism. I did score significant points on the PIP question about socialising with friends. This was mainly due to my autism - I cannot understand body language, facial expressions and inferences, so I often end up being bullied. In fact I lived for 20 years with domestic abuse, thinking it was largely my fault. According to my ADHD doctor this is common with neurodivergence.

I have had some bad luck. I am "high functioning" and most people would never guess I am neurodivergent because I am incredibly good at hiding it.

Exactly this 🙌🏻

You know how I know you're lying just to stir up ableist hatred?

Because in order to qualify for PIP, you need a consultant psychiatrist, psychologist, GP and care team to confirm your ADHD is so severe you require help with your ADLs or Activities of Daily Living. Either because you cannot take adhd medication (like my brother who has Downs Syndrome, and so cannot take Vyvanse for his ADHD due to heart risks or tolerate the side effects from the non stimulants), or your adhd is treatment resistant.

Your aquaintances could write whatever they want on the forms... but without those medical reports from your psych/gp/care team, your claim will be rejected.

And no psychiatrist, GP or nurse is going to write a report filled with blant lie after blatant lie for their patient to submit to the DWP to hekp them 'cheat the system' and commit fraud. They would be struck off by the gmc/nursing council.

Stop talking shite.

I have applied for PIP twice. I am very unwell. I was refused the first time. The second time, I had much more evidence and got awarded.

The PIP form is about at thick as War and Peace. The first time I applied, I sent in about 20 hospital letter and a couple of lengthy reports. The second time, I got about 8 more pieces of evidence.

My husband has arthrogryposis, lets imagine we still live in the UK, under your system what does him being looked after look like?

It's similar with DLA.

I consider myself to be an educated person and I would've struggled to fill it in accurately without help from professionals, facebook group and an online guide.

You then need to collect mountains of evidence to back up what you have said on the form.

Well I am, mid staff Parkinson’s tremors, slow, awkward gait and lack of dexterity making life tough, disabled enough for you?

lots like me

Fewer people are dying from Covid but I’d be interested to know how many end up with Long Covid. I caught it last Summer and haven’t fully recovered yet and I’m not unusual (according to my GP). If there are dozens of people like me in every single GP practice, it would account for some of the increase in PIP claims.