1,000 new PIP claims per day?

[flashbac]

Is this true? (From someone who is naturally cynical of government info.)

If it is, is there something else behind the statistic? Is it because people have to reapply or something like that?

This is from the government website:

"Monthly PIP awards have more than doubled since the pandemic, rising from 13,000 to 34,000 - a rate of around 1,000 new claims per day, or the population of Leicester every year."

I find the statistic unbelievable.

Im sorry but this is absolute rubbish! You absolutely don’t need all of those doctors on your forms! My ds most certainly didn’t have them!

Im sorry but this is absolute rubbish! You absolutely don’t need all of those doctors on your forms! My ds most certainly didn’t have them!

You need a shit tonne of evidence to get PIP.

You applying for your son (despite apparently no attorney assessment being done to allow you to do so) giving no medical evidence whatsoever is not remotely standard.

How old is your DS? Was he previously on DLA?

I work in this area and am constantly baffled as to how some people are awarded it. We've had one woman on it for years on end for alleged physical ailments yet works full time cleaning and rides a big motorbike.
I've had two nonsense claims recently that i knew would be not awarded but we still have to help with the forms and it must cost a fortune to be assessed. People just put in claims again and again.
The benefit needs to be for seriously disabled people. It is madness how ridiculous this system has become.

My ds is 20 and yes he was on DLA which stopped at 16 so i had to apply for PIP for him. I have never ever provided lots of evidence for either DLA or PIP, infact for pip it was just the forms and his GP and consultants names! I don’t know what you are talking about an attorney assessment ive never heard of it! I had a phone call with a nurse who asked me lots of questions about his disabilities etc and that was literally it! Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative but its absolutely what happened.

Agree. The whole process costs a fortune. 2 layers of appeal the second one involving an actual Judge I believe. I wonder what a Judge’s daily rate is.

I don’t know what you are talking about an attorney assessment ive never heard of it! I had a phone call with a nurse who asked me lots of questions about his disabilities etc and that was literally it! Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative but it's absolutely what happened.

If you are applying on behalf of an adult then at some point you've applied to be their attorney. Otherwise your DS would have to deal with the process himself.
That's not my narrative, that's how it works.

And transferring from DLA to PIP makes sense as there is likely evidence (not necessarily from you) from previous claims to look at.

It's not standard at all to get it with no evidence as you are claiming it is.

“Fewer people are dying from Covid but I’d be interested to know how many end up with Long Covid. I caught it last Summer and haven’t fully recovered yet and I’m not unusual (according to my GP). If there are dozens of people like me in every single GP practice, it would account for some of the increase in PIP claims.”
@Smokesandeatssorry to hear that.
ONS used to do a survey, last reported in 2024. It was over 2m in England and Scotland. Not directly comparable to the one from the year before as 2024 only took account of England and Scotland and relied more on RATs, but for example there were still 1,000 new cases on average per week of long covid in children aged 3-17 between 2023-2024. There was a GP survey done last summer which put it at over 3m for England.

A proportion of these people will have had to close their businesses or stop work as a result. A proportion of those may apply for PIP (although access/ability to apply may prevent some, also assumption/hope that may get better/receive medical help may make others postpone, struggling to accept disabilities may be long term. I’ve also seen posts from people saying as a family they couldn’t afford the PIP process or had delayed it - both to avoid further lowering health baseline and because financially cost of additional help/partner taking more time off to care for them as a result made it prohibitive). A proportion who apply will receive PIP. A proportion may receive it after successfully challenging PIP refusal. A proportion will be in dire need and receive nothing I assume - like many other conditions. Whatever the numbers are, its astonishing that long covid is rarely mentioned - especially when the time period talked about is between the start of the pandemic and now!

Ok 👌

😂🤷‍♀️ it’s great that you believe the system is so coherent, valid and reliable. It really is. I admire your Uhm naivety. It’s cute.

Quite.

No she hasn't. No one needs power of attorney to apply for pip when a child moves from dla.

Yup

How is a person who has actually applied for PIP and has personal experience with it more naive than someone who just apparently knows several people with ADHD who shouldn't get it because they can walk and use their hands because all disabilities are physical disabilities of course?

And thats why theres such a backlash against proposed cuts. Obviously people are very happy riding this particular gravy train, and don't want to get off it. I hope the government doesnt let party members derail completely the proposed changes, or we should all be afraid as the money they were hoping to claw back from that will probably be clawed back from higher taxes for all of us.

I don’t know what you are talking about an attorney assessment ive never heard of it! I had a phone call with a nurse who asked me lots of questions about his disabilities etc and that was literally it! Sorry if that doesn’t fit your narrative but it's absolutely what happened.

Coreected my error - at some point you've applied to be his appointee. Muddled the words.

If you are applying on behalf of an adult then at some point you've applied to be their appointee . Otherwise your DS would have to deal with the process himself.
That's not my narrative, that's how it works.

And transferring from DLA to PIP makes sense as there is likely evidence (not necessarily from you) from previous claims to look at.

It's not standard at all to get it with no evidence as you are claiming it is.

Or the system breaks down completely and there is no more money in the pot for welfare or anything else.

No she hasn't. No one needs power of attorney to apply for pip when a child moves from dla.

I meant appointee assessment, not attorney.

I've corrected my post

Well thank goodness for that!

This is so true. I would like to see the numbers on how many people are in receipt of PIP and working.

I agree with this. But I would add that there is (understandably) attitudes of hopelessness and helplessness in some people, and disability as a whole identity in some others. I recruit for jobs in my organisation and I have read personal statements which have been all about a person’s “neurospiciness” and what they can’t do as a result, and very little about what they can’t do.

The last estimate was about 20% I believe. It is difficult to be certain because whether you can work or not, and whether you are in work, isn't one of the questions - for obvious reasons!

How very professional of you.

Definitely

So why don't you report your son for claiming if he shouldn't be getting it