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So has WW3 just started?

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Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 22:30

I can’t believe I’m not seeing more threads on this. Starmer back israel against Iran. Other Muslim countries are supporting Iran.

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JasmineAllen · 14/06/2025 23:25

justasking111 · 14/06/2025 23:19

Excuse me the revolution was in 1979 not so long ago.

My geography teacher had lived in Persia. We covered it in lessons complete with many slides she had taken while living there. The history is fascinating they were millenia ahead many races. Great builders, architects, artists, writers.

Here's a flavour of what it was like pre the revolution

"Iran before the revolution shows a stunning contrast | Daily Mail Online" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-4148684/Stunning-photos-reveal-life-Iran-revolution.html

Yes, I know the revolution was in 1979, I remember it happening and watching about on the news. I also know life in Iran was very different before the Shah took over.

That doesn't mean there hasn't been conflict in the middle east for donkeys years which was my point in answer to a previous poster.

Sodthesystem · 14/06/2025 23:26

I hope not...hoping to be in NYC in a few months for an event.

Morningsleepin · 14/06/2025 23:27

Gerbilboy · 14/06/2025 23:03

Errrr...Israel is bombing Palestine, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Iran... And it's the one trying to prevent war?!

Indeed. And for the record, Iran does not have a nuclear bomb. It enriches uranium for its power stations and has done for many years

MiloMinderbinder925 · 14/06/2025 23:27

We're entering a new world order where old alliances are breaking down and countries are acting with impunity.

Putin dipped his toe in the water with Crimea and when no one reacted invaded Ukraine. Israel has been acting with impunity in Palestine for decades and the world sits by while it commits genocide and invades sovereign nations.

It hasn't managed to show any evidence of Iran's imminent nuclear arsenal but who needs evidence when you're looking at international law in the rear view mirror?

China is sabre rattling over Taiwan, the US is threatening Greenland and Pakistan and India have just had a spat. It seems that we're entering a free for all where countries just invade other countries with no repercussions.

justasking111 · 14/06/2025 23:27

JasmineAllen · 14/06/2025 23:25

Yes, I know the revolution was in 1979, I remember it happening and watching about on the news. I also know life in Iran was very different before the Shah took over.

That doesn't mean there hasn't been conflict in the middle east for donkeys years which was my point in answer to a previous poster.

You know and I know but how many don't?

Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 23:27

justasking111 · 14/06/2025 22:54

It's so sad Persia was such a wonderful liberal wealthy country once upon a time.

I would be wonderful if it could be like this again.

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whitewineandsun · 14/06/2025 23:27

JustASmallBear · 14/06/2025 23:20

I can't get worked up about this.

First it was the US and USSR, now it's Israel and Iran, and in between it's been many other possibilities. And that's just in my lifetime.

Over half a century of WW3 might be starting and you begin to be somewhat cynical and jaded.

If it happens, it happens. But it probably won't.

Exactly this.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 23:27

AutumnArrow · 14/06/2025 22:39

If iran launched a nuclear weapon at Israel (or Russia at Ukraine) what would the outcome be? Presuming noone retaliated (I'm assuming they may well do, but if they didn't) would that destroy the surrounding area only, or the entire countries, or send radiation across the world?
I tried to Google this the other day and couldn't find clear answers.

The whole idea of nuclear weapons is for willy-waving and deterrence - not for actually using them.

X launches their nuclear weapons at Y, so Y launch theirs at X, and both of them - as well as most of the rest of the world - is destroyed for good.

Only one country has ever actually used nuclear weapons on innocent civilians - and it isn't any of the countries that are routinely cited as dangerous rogue states.

TriesNotToBeCynical · 14/06/2025 23:28

Hfox · 14/06/2025 23:22

Just because they have nuclear weapons doesn’t mean they will use it.. we have nuclear weapons.. are we using them?

Anyway Iran haven't got nuclear weapons. The story Israel tells is of preventing them getting nuclear weapons, not that they have them. And Iran agreed not to develop nuclear weapons and have detailed UN inspections of their nuclear power programme but Trump broke that agreement in 2018.

1dayatatime · 14/06/2025 23:28

@Hfox

"I’ve seen how unhinged nethanyu and Israel.. they are unhinged and I would support literally anyone against Israel"

Well that's good to know, so if Iran carries through with its threat to attack British military bases and British embassies at least we all know what side you are on.

Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 23:29

MiloMinderbinder925 · 14/06/2025 23:27

We're entering a new world order where old alliances are breaking down and countries are acting with impunity.

Putin dipped his toe in the water with Crimea and when no one reacted invaded Ukraine. Israel has been acting with impunity in Palestine for decades and the world sits by while it commits genocide and invades sovereign nations.

It hasn't managed to show any evidence of Iran's imminent nuclear arsenal but who needs evidence when you're looking at international law in the rear view mirror?

China is sabre rattling over Taiwan, the US is threatening Greenland and Pakistan and India have just had a spat. It seems that we're entering a free for all where countries just invade other countries with no repercussions.

And this is exactly why I’ve been concerned and dont understand the need for some of the sarcastic comments on this thread. So manh people think their own little world is too clever and too safe, but history perpetually repeats itself and we’re due another world war mix up.

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FiendsandFairies · 14/06/2025 23:29

justasking111 · 14/06/2025 22:54

It's so sad Persia was such a wonderful liberal wealthy country once upon a time.

What? Under the Shah of Iran the inequality was desperate!

justasking111 · 14/06/2025 23:30

1dayatatime · 14/06/2025 23:28

@Hfox

"I’ve seen how unhinged nethanyu and Israel.. they are unhinged and I would support literally anyone against Israel"

Well that's good to know, so if Iran carries through with its threat to attack British military bases and British embassies at least we all know what side you are on.

I suspect they abandoned those embassies before this latest squabble kicked off.

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 14/06/2025 23:30

Apart from anything else, any kind of physical warfare is becoming more and more obsolete in the modern world.

Whole states could be brought down and destroyed far more efficiently with computers than with boots on the ground or air attacks. Or, in the case of Russia, simply turning off the gas pipes.

OneFunBrickNewt · 14/06/2025 23:30

Can you want both countries to lose? And want one to more lose than the other, but whilst scoring enough direct hits on the other's mililtary equipment to slow down the Gaza situation?

justasking111 · 14/06/2025 23:32

FiendsandFairies · 14/06/2025 23:29

What? Under the Shah of Iran the inequality was desperate!

As it was throughout the middle east in the 70s. It would have changed immeasurably since then.

MidnightMusing5 · 14/06/2025 23:33

ShesTheAlbatross · 14/06/2025 22:41

A few weeks ago people were concerned about two different nuclear powers shooting at each other

The difference is uk wasn’t involved. Uk has sent fighter jets to get in situ and Iran has said anyone who gets in way will get it too. That’s the difference

IberianBlackout · 14/06/2025 23:34

Can’t lie, I have wondered if we should at least have those things recommended not long ago: a radio, powerbanks, torches… just in case.

Can’t wait until Netanyahu is out. I honestly think that as it stands, that man is the source of all evil and instability in the area. He won’t rest until there are no more Palestinians and will drag everyone down if need be.

JasmineAllen · 14/06/2025 23:36

justasking111 · 14/06/2025 23:27

You know and I know but how many don't?

I don't know how many don't. Lots, a few?

I was answering a previous poster who said they didn't understand the Israel/Palestinian conflict.

I'm not sure why you bought the Iranian 1979 revolution into it.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 14/06/2025 23:36

Newsenmum · 14/06/2025 23:29

And this is exactly why I’ve been concerned and dont understand the need for some of the sarcastic comments on this thread. So manh people think their own little world is too clever and too safe, but history perpetually repeats itself and we’re due another world war mix up.

I think you're right to be worried with the rise of the far right in Europe, Trump's authoritarianism in the States and a breakdown in international relations.

If no one is taking any notice of international law then it's the wild west.

Anothernamechange23gfdd · 14/06/2025 23:36

He did what!! Are you fucking kidding me. What is wrong with the man.

FunnysInLaJardin · 14/06/2025 23:40

no, hth

Rosedreaming · 14/06/2025 23:41

Gerbilboy · 14/06/2025 23:03

Errrr...Israel is bombing Palestine, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon and Iran... And it's the one trying to prevent war?!

Palestine - after a terror attack 13 x bigger than 9/11 in terms of population size (not that I'm a fan of the war but by contrast America killed 3 million after 9/11 and didn't even have any hostages to go after)

Yemen - specifically Houthi targets following attacks on shipping and a missile launched at Israel's airport. The U.K. and US also struck the Houthi.

Syria - very briefly after a civil uprising there to destroy Al-Assad's chemical weapons stockpile and certain other weapons before they could potentially fall into the hands of untrained civilians.

Lebanon - highly targeted strikes against Hezbollah targets, an Iran backed terror group who were firing missiles into Israel.

Iran - hitting military targets and nuclear research sites to prevent them reaching full nuclear capacity. The world agrees that this was in reach for them.

Im no fan of Netanyahu at all, and hope he's out asap but no, Israel doesn't want war but it is surrounded by a lot of countries that would like to 'wipe it off the map' and considering the people that live there had a third of their global population wiped off the map 80 years ago they're pretty proactive about prevention.

Limon87 · 14/06/2025 23:41

Hey, ignore the sarcasm on here. I suspect they do it to make themselves feel better because for many it’s easiest to ridicule these worries then actually worry.

I too am very anxious about it all. My husband however isn’t and he’s very good at just setting some of facts straight for me on things and helping me see what’s a scary headline vs what’s a realistic scenario.

That being said the reality is none of us truly know, not even the sarcastic commenters. So perhaps choose your news sources well (don’t read the Daily Mail) and educate yourself through conversations that neither scare nor ridicule you, but instead just discuss the facts you have with some rationale. Thats my approach.

Take care of yourself x

Humdingerydoo · 14/06/2025 23:42

Ahh, Iran. A country that helped send Iraqi Jews to Israel not too many decades ago. Now it seems to want them all out (/dead).

Hopefully this will end soon and the leaders of both countries can be replaced with better candidates. Their people all deserve a whole lot more than what they're currently getting.

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