Caught doing 87 on an A road - stupid - what will happen?

[Speeding87stupid]

We were on holiday, road was empty and we were rushing to get to a check in.

Just got home and received a scary letter in the post from the police.

I know it was monumentally stupid. Will write back immediately saying yes it was me.

I’ve never had a speeding fine - can’t believe I was so stupid, I never usually speed.

What will they do - will I lose my licence?

I acknowledge that she admitted speeding, that wasn't what I was saying, I was pointing out to people that were defending her saying she doesn't usually speed. I was pointing out this is a naive, trusting thing to believe. She's hardly like to say, "I didn't realise I was doing 87mph in a 70mph limit as that's the speed I normally do and I'm just gutted I finally got caught!" is she?

As I said, only a regular speeder would not realising they were doing 87mph. 5mph, easy mistake, but not 17 that takes you up to 87mph, that feels fast if you aren't used to it!

6.20pm on the A64 is smack bang in the middle of rush hour. It's also a busy time at the weekends because of everyone returning home from both directions. Obviously I wasn't there, but I've been driving it at all times of the day and late into the evening for the last five years and I can't say I've ever been alone.

Doesn't really matter if it's static cameras or a van, I was just explaining that if it WAS a van, why they would be there.

You might find this useful. Apologies if it's already been post up-thread as I haven't read it all.
https://www.speedingcalculator.co.uk/

Bloody hell op, I bet you wish you never asked.

@CoughCoughLaugh

As I said, only a regular speeder would not realising they were doing 87mph. 5mph, easy mistake, but not 17 that takes you up to 87mph, that feels fast if you aren't used to it!

Am I right in thinking you’re saying she didn’t realise she was speeding? As far as I can see, nowhere has she said she didn’t know she was speeding. I think she did know as she said she was in a hurry to get somewhere. This doesn’t mean it’s a regular thing? If anything I think it backs up the fact that she doesn’t usually do it as she was aware of it.

I agree with you, if you don’t realise you’re doing 87mph then you likely do exceed the speed limit fairly often. But she has nowhere said that she didn’t know she was speeding, so in this instance I don’t believe it’s naive of me and yes, I am giving her the benefit of the doubt.

The original point of the whole thread has still been lost, in any effect.

Roads can stop being 'empty' at the drop of a hat. Thank your lucky stars no one was seriously injured or killed doing this speed. I would learn from this and move on.

I wondered if this awful thread was still going and the awful sanctimony continuing. I see it is

I thought of it today when I was speeding a few times. The first on a hill at 70 in a 70 zone, just over the top of the hill it drops quite suddenly to 50. Gentle easing off the accelerator means that you dont slow down instantly to 50 meaning for a few hundred yards of course I was going at higher than 50 until I had slowed enough. I suppose I could have just slammed on my brakes, quite abruptly. I wonder what is safer.....

Later, I 'enjoyed' the M25, 50mph restrictions today for many a mile. But of course the vast majority of us were not going at 50, it was more like 52, 55, sometimes a bit under 60. The outside lane was full, heavy, with traffic doing 65/70. This was for long long stretches of that 50 section.

OP shouldnt have been driving that fast, ideally none of us would go over the limit but sometimes we do. I think the hyperbole of her causing an accident and killing someone is missing the point. The stretch she got caught on is 70, if a car came out suddenly, if a pedestrian came out suddenly, if she lost control of her car, it would be the same level of disaster. Its not 'safer'.

Attitudes to speed and using the roads - always interesting - about 26,000 are killed and seriously injured each year on the roads. The estimated annual economic cost of road traffic collisions in the UK is approximately £36 billion. This figure encompasses both reported and unreported incidents, including various factors such as medical expenses, lost productivity, emergency services, and property damage. This estimate has been cited in multiple official reports and documents, including those from the Department for Transport and other governmental bodies. Since 95% or thereabouts of road traffic collisions are down to human error, you can say nearly all of these are avoidable. People blame various factors, but the primary issue is not driving to the conditions. People who are in the habit of speeding.... will speed.

Do you think that even though you react in the same time, you travel much further at 87mph compared to 70mph?

So yes, a pedestrian might step out on the road (which people can do on the A64) but at 70 mph, you stand more chance of braking when you see them and slowing to a stop than at 87mph, purely because of the speed difference?

Anyone who is minimising this probably doesn't know the road and doesn't realise how dangerous this was. That part of the A1 has people slowing to turn off, cars turning across it and even roundabouts.
Its not a clear straight road with nothing around it

20 pages of people saying.how.danherous and awful speeding is when the op had already stated this.

What boring lives people must live

There's a thinking and stopping distance calculator here

https://www.random-science-tools.com/physics/stopping-distance.htm

70mph

Thinking: 21m
Stopping: 75m
Total: 96m

87mph

Thinking:26m
Stopping: 115m
Total: 141m

Clearly, although it's "just" 17mph above the speed limit, there is a much bigger difference on both thinking distance and stopping distance.

Which means that you stand much greater chance of slowing down if you see a hazard at 70mph compared to at 87mph

Yes of course the stopping distance is reduced, but the reality is, driving at 70 is not going to give you much opportunity to stop safely in an emergency. It not 'safe', its just less 'unsafe' than a higher speed.

Remind me - which part of the A1 was she caught speeding on again ?

The A64 with dual carriageway has roundabouts, people crossing it, cars going across it, junctions.

At least they have got rid of most of the sections where you could cross from one side of the A64 to the other side by waiting in the middle. Which did make a trip to the Agrah longer as we had to go to Tadcaster and cross there. But that's not a problem since the Agrah has gone now.

I think the Castle Howard exit and road crossing there is really dangerous. People come over a hill just as the dual carriageway starts and then go down the hill when there is junction where cars have to cross if they want to go from Castle Howard to York

Ignore anyone saying that you’ll be going to court etc. It’s 1mph too fast for a course unfortunately so unless you’re already on 9 points it’ll be 3 points/£100 fine. Don’t sweat it, just be mindful of your speed in future and maybe use Waze to keep abreast of cameras.

Sorry typo, I meant A64
Thats the one with Roundabouts, turn offs, people joining slowly etc

So now we've had likening the situation to that of a sex offender.

You can't wonder why people take the piss out of MNers can you.

Plainly not

Can’t you read? Or did you think the OP deserved more of a kicking ?

You don't say. We all know this!!

It's completely moot to the op's question

Later, I 'enjoyed' the M25, 50mph restrictions today for many a mile. But of course the vast majority of us were not going at 50, it was more like 52, 55, sometimes a bit under 60. The outside lane was full, heavy, with traffic doing 65/70. This was for long long stretches of that 50 section.

It's probably quite profitable for them. I went on a motorway awareness course last year, and a good percentage of us were there because of the M27. I was going at 50mph where I knew it was 50, but the signposting is not very clear at times, particularly if you've got a big lorry to your left, obscuring the signs, and I hadn't realised it had gone back to 50 after being national speed limit for a mile or so. (Mind you, there have been many times where going as fast as 50 was an impossible dream...) So I imagine they pick up quite a few on the M25 50mph bits as well.

Not if it is a dual carriageway.

You might get lucky OP and get a speed awareness course but in reality probably points and a fine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cje7nx5l832o

Single car crashes do happen.

Its a really good point about lorries obstructing signs if you just happen to be going past at a time when you cant see/dont even know there is a sign its obstructing.

Not necessarily about speeding per se but in general how difficult it is to see signs sometimes.

It's more to those people who say that it's just 17mph over the speed limit

That 17mph makes a massive difference - and I don't think that all people do know that 17mph makes a 50m difference to the stopping distance.

Did you know that? 87mph is not on the Highway Code stopping distance chart

@Speeding87stupid Speeding fine calculator says likely £100 and 3 points but be careful in future OP as you were nearly going fast enough for a bigger fine and more points.

If you have cruise control and you still got done speeding you deserve the fine and points.