Caught doing 87 on an A road - stupid - what will happen?

[Speeding87stupid]

We were on holiday, road was empty and we were rushing to get to a check in.

Just got home and received a scary letter in the post from the police.

I know it was monumentally stupid. Will write back immediately saying yes it was me.

I’ve never had a speeding fine - can’t believe I was so stupid, I never usually speed.

What will they do - will I lose my licence?

And again, hyperbole. No that doesn’t mean that.

I wonder how many of the people sneering about "pearl-clutchers" would say that in front of parents who've had their children killed by speeding drivers. I bet they wouldn't have the guts. They just say it behind their backs.

Ok dear. The point I was making is that the original thread has been hijacked and the point totally lost. Absolutely nowhere have I said speeding is ok, should be tolerated or the OP hasn’t done anything wrong. Nowhere. You’re so determined to be outraged you can’t see the wood for the trees at this point 😂

No, they’re not. People who habitually speed and drive in far more dangerous ways within the speed limits are the reason. OP doesn’t sound like one of them.

This is not the point of the thread. OP said from the beginning that she knew she was wrong, feels awful - first time she’s done it and will never do it again. People keep dragging children into it for dramatic effect. You have a responsibility as a driver to keep your passengers safe no matter who they are. Seems to me OP recognised that from the outset and is shocked at the speed she was clocked at. But still the ridiculous, self righteous pile on continues.

Not so. If the A road is a dual carriageway with a solid barrier between the lanes going in opposite directions the limit will be 70, unless specific signs say otherwise. OP has already said the limit was 70.

OP, you were probably over the margin which would allow you to be offered the option of a speed awareness course instead of points, that is why you were sent a prosecution letter. Don’t worry, this will all be dealt with by post if you admit the offence and should result in a small fine (used to be £60 not sure what it is now) and 3 points on your licence. You have to rack up 12 points before you lose your licence and the points expire, I think, in 5 years.

A driving conviction like this will not appear on a DBS and will not affect application for a US visa waiver. You need to inform your car insurers about the points but 3 points doesn’t generally put up your premium. 6 points or more will, though.

87mph in a 70 limit is either wilful speeding, or serious lack of attention. The A64 is not a motorway, you need your wits about you

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/25203360.a64-scarborough-near-musham-bank-closed-crash/

https://www.northyorkshire.police.uk/foi-ai/north-yorkshire-police/foi-disclosure-2021-22/july-2023/foi-top-10-roads-with-the-highest-number-of-collisions-0101201-31122022-0848-202223/

Again, sorry for your loss but this is absolutely not the point. It wasn’t a country road - it was an empty 70mph stretch of road with no pedestrians. She hasn’t killed anyone. Hasn’t speeded before, doesn’t intend to do it again, so clearly lesson learned. Your experience is sad, but entirely irrelevant to this situation.

Which OP clearly had as she arrived safely - albeit with a speeding fine.

And ?

Well thanks for the dismissal. It is relevant as the person who killed the person I know said the same thing - empty stretch of road, rushing to get home.

So what exactly do you want anyone to say and do? Do you want the original poster to be stoned?

Have you set up an action group for speeding drivers to be sent to prison?

But people are saying it's sanctimonious to point out how dangerous speeding is. This absolutely does need to be pointed out, because there are posters dismissing what the OP did as "no biggie" and saying it was "bad luck" that she was caught. No one is bringing children into it - adults have parents as well!

Again, how many of the people on this thread would tell a bereaved parent to "stop being such a sanctimonious pearl-clutcher" for being angry that their child was killed by a speeding driver? They wouldn't have the guts.

It’s relevant to you, but totally irrelevant in respect to this post.

If a bereaved parent started a thread about this, of course no one would say that! As Rosscameasadoody keeps pointing out, the OP was asking for advice regarding what would happen now that she’s been caught speeding. Can you really not see the difference here?

What do you want to happen to the OP?

People have quite literally brought children into it. I’m not going to go back and highlight the specific posts but they have. You yourself have by referring to a bereaved parent!

And of course nobody would say anything like that to a parent whose child had been killed 🙄 - nobody here (or very few) is condoning speeding and saying the OP has done nothing wrong. Crucially, not even the OP herself. It’s the sanctimonious ‘you should feel ASHAMED, lose your licence because I would NEVER do that’ posters that are being referred to here. That’s not helping anyone is it? It’s not offering advice nor a solution, it’s gloaty judgement. OP has already said they know it was wrong and isn’t attempting to say otherwise at any point in this thread.

Drawing a parallel to a driver being caught speeding and asking what will happen to them as a result of receiving a letter, and asking people if they would sneer at a bereaved parent whose child has been killed in an RTA is a pretty nasty stretch by anyone’s imagination.

How is it a "gloaty judgement" to say you hope the OP loses her licence? It would be a good deterrent.

Again, I didn't bring up children - I brought up bereaved parents. Adults have parents as well.

Read back through the thread - posters were actually warning the OP that her driving was child endangerment and to expect social services involvement. The judgement and snottiness isn’t being directed at other posters, it’s mostly at OP, despite her saying from the outset that this is the first and last time she’s done it and has learned her lesson. She posted for advice on the possible penalty but that was lost a while ago, with the focus now being almost entirely, and pointlessly on the ills of speeding.

But again, that’s not what happened here. And OP clearly realises the implications of what she did, so what on earth is the point of posters coming on and just repeating the same mindless judgement over and over again ?

OP hasn’t been back since yesterday evening. Yet another OP chased off their own thread. Congrats everyone, job well done.

All those people vehemently defending the OP because she says she is remorseful and she never usually speeds are being kind giving her the benefit of the doubt and trusting what she says, but they are being a little bit naive. Anyone who doesn't regularly speed would definitely feel the difference doing 87mph in a 70mph limit. It would feel fast, even in a modern car, on an unfamiliar empty road. And especially in daylight on the A64, there are bits that are quite sweeping for a dual carriageway. There is also NO WAY that the A64 was empty at 6.20pm on ANY day of the week. I've been on it many times at 7am, 10pm and just about every hour in between on every day of the week. There may, very occasionally, be a few seconds where there is no one in sight but literally seconds, maybe. Also, the police don't take their van out when there's going to be no one on the road. Whether you think the police vans are there to catch speeders or just to create a revenue stream, it doesn't make sense for them to be covering the road when no one is on it to catch.

And those bereaved parents have… children? Adults or not. If you are specifying bereaved parents, then those parents are mourning the loss of their child aren’t they? So by virtue of the fact that you are mentioning the parents then yes, you have brought up the subject of children.

You have chosen one of the many gloaty, judgy comments aimed at the OP here to make your point. There have been many more - telling her she should be ashamed, other posters have NEVER exceeded the speed limit (so convenient this can never be proved, hey). The OP was caught speeding, which is wrong and she shouldn’t have been doing it. She knows that - she has said it since her very first post. The pages and pages of judgement are so irrelevant to the question asked in the first post it’s actually a bit farcical now. She asked a question which required a factual answer and has been subjected to the modern day, internet version of stoning. Online mob culture at its finest.

I’ll say it again - we 👏🏻are👏🏻not👏🏻condoning 👏🏻speeding.

Speeding is wrong. It can have catastrophic consequences. In this instance, it didn’t and the OP just wants a simple question to be answered but has been flamed for doing something wrong that they have already acknowledged. Must be a slow news day on MN today to have necessitated this level of irrelevant responses on one thread.

Ok but in the OP, she doesn’t deny speeding. She doesn’t say she didn’t know she was doing it. She’s admitted it so there is no giving the benefit of the doubt - there is no doubt she was speeding here. It doesn’t mean she is a regular offender. No naivete here.

Also a previous post said there was a fixed speed camera on this road, not a police van didn’t they? I haven’t seen any mention of it being a police van. Happy to stand corrected on that one. It’s also not behind the realms of possibility that if it was a police van it had arrived early to get ahead of the rush hour traffic, is it?