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Caught doing 87 on an A road - stupid - what will happen?

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Speeding87stupid · 31/05/2025 20:40

We were on holiday, road was empty and we were rushing to get to a check in.

Just got home and received a scary letter in the post from the police.

I know it was monumentally stupid. Will write back immediately saying yes it was me.

I’ve never had a speeding fine - can’t believe I was so stupid, I never usually speed.

What will they do - will I lose my licence?

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Negroany · 31/05/2025 23:12

socasuallycruelinthenameofbeinghonest · 31/05/2025 21:47

@BadgersSuitcaseI've been over the limit for speed awareness twice and never been to court. So not always the case.

Agreed.

87 in a 70 isn't that unusual. And it's not "nearly thirty over the limit". I've definitely been caught at around that before and done the course. But even if not, it's three points and an auto fine (unless you opt for court, but why would you?).

The first letter is always the "notice of intended prosecution", asking who was driving. The next is the actual prosecution which will be the fine or course. The letter itself doesn't mean court because speeding is generally not dealt with at an in person hearing.

IHaveAlwaysLivedintheCastle · 31/05/2025 23:13

elozabet · 31/05/2025 22:57

Some nasty posters on this thread. Obviously these are posters who’ve never made a mistake in their life.

I got caught by a camera doing 36 in a 30 at 7.20am Sunday morning a few months back. My first time I’ve been caught and was lucky enough to be offered the speed awareness course. But it is a wake up call and I’ve been really careful since, but I’ve had so many cars overtake me. Makes me realise how many speed and take no notice of speed limits

I've actually never driven over the speed limit.

Clafoutie · 31/05/2025 23:17

Shitmonger · 31/05/2025 22:05

So much melodrama here.

@Speeding87stupid Don't beat yourself up too much. I’ve gotten this exact ticket (87 in a 70) though I was abroad so I’m no help on penalties. Actually I was barreling to the airport early in the morning to drop off my rental car and hop on a flight back to the UK. The roads were gorgeous and empty and the rental car was zippy so I was having a grand old time. At least until a rather terrifying-looking officer with the most impressive, jangly belt of tools pulled me over. We were both very confused as he clearly wasn’t expecting a random British woman at 4am and I wasn’t sure how to give him the paperwork he wanted for a rental car. It ended up just being £100 that I paid online.

🙄What larks.

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Nominative · 31/05/2025 23:17

CaptainFuture · 31/05/2025 20:46

A roads in UK are 60. You were clearly not being an observant but a dangerous driver.
Is this where you live?

Clearly you aren't observant when you're driving, otherwise you would be aware that some A roads are indeed 70.

Nominative · 31/05/2025 23:19

InTheWindow · 31/05/2025 20:48

You’ve gone from never usually speeding to nearly 30mph over the limit to make a check in? Did you not think to just contact the owner/manager and explain you were running late? I live rurally and sometimes have to cross A roads on foot, and cycle/walk along them to join off road paths, my daughter is getting to an age that she’ll be doing so on her own too. My friend and her children live at a junction with one. Thank god we’ve never come across a driver as selfish as you. I hope you do lose your license.

Can we take it you have never ever made a mistake in your life? Unless that is the case, you should think about whether you are entitled to be so judgmental.

Loloj · 31/05/2025 23:20

Speeding87stupid · 31/05/2025 21:05

It’s a notice of prosecution not a fine so assume it’s being taken to court.

Yes it’s absolutely a wake up call and I never plan to speed again no matter the circumstances.

We live very rurally at home so I’m terrified I’ll lose my licence - won’t be able to take my kids to school

I’m pretty sure when I received a speeding fine the first letter I received said “notice of prosecution”. Once I’d confirmed it was me driving the vehicle they sent me a second letter with an option to do a speed awareness course or take 3 points plus fine. For what it’s worth North Yorkshire police are more lenient with the speeds they allow you to go “over”. I remember this as I was doing 79 in a 70 (also on the A64). They had a table within the letter that said any speed up to 78 mph and they wouldn’t have prosecuted. So I would predict that you will be given points and a fine (probably not the option for a speed awareness given how fast you were going).

Slatterndisgrace · 31/05/2025 23:21

There’s a few posters claiming ‘nearly 30 over the limit’. It isn’t.

JaffavsCookie · 31/05/2025 23:22

For those who don’t know the road it is a terrible one for crashes, nearly all due to speeding or overtaking. The road is mostly single carriageway with stretches of dual so I wouldn’t expect a lot of leniency in the court OP. I don’t think you have to attend in person though.

ProfessionalWhimsicalSkidaddler · 31/05/2025 23:23

CaptainFuture · 31/05/2025 20:46

A roads in UK are 60. You were clearly not being an observant but a dangerous driver.
Is this where you live?

The irony that you say OP is not being observant but you failed to observe the high way code. Give over.

Perhapsanothertime · 31/05/2025 23:24

Speeding87stupid · 31/05/2025 21:05

It’s a notice of prosecution not a fine so assume it’s being taken to court.

Yes it’s absolutely a wake up call and I never plan to speed again no matter the circumstances.

We live very rurally at home so I’m terrified I’ll lose my licence - won’t be able to take my kids to school

People have no doubt pointed this out, but speeding tickets are called “Notice of Intended Prosecution”. All of them. Often known for many years as “NIPs”

It doesn’t mean you’re being taken to court. They don’t have the time or resources to take every speeding driver to court. You’ll send your details back to confirm you were driving and they’ll send you a response with penalty points and a fine, or maybe an option of speed awareness course.

If you’d been going over 100 then usually insta-ban.

Babyghirl · 31/05/2025 23:25

Speeding87stupid · 31/05/2025 20:44

70

I was caught doing 85 in a 70 just recieved letter they have offered me the speeding course, hoping it's the same outcome for you.

RampantIvy · 31/05/2025 23:26

Grammarnut · 31/05/2025 23:00

A roads are usually 70 mph. 60 is B and unclassified roads (where doing sixty is usually nuts). OP was not observant of the speed limit, presumably or thought no-one would see her. 87 mph is dangerous. I wouldn't dream of doing that on a Motorway let alone an A road where anything can appear.

Wrong.
The national speed limit on a single carriageway road is 60 mph. Many of these roads have lower speed limits and there will be a sign to state what it is. The B road through my village is 60 mph either side of the village (It is 30 mph through the village)

The national speed limit on a dual carriageway or motorway is 70 mph unless there are speed limit signs to state otherwise. The M621 in Leeds has a 50 mph limit that many drivers ignore at their peril.

I don't believe any driver who says that they have never gone over the speed limit by even 1 mph.

ProfessionalWhimsicalSkidaddler · 31/05/2025 23:27

It’s over the threshold for a speed awareness but it’s a fixed fine of £100 and 3 points. You will be fine. We all make mistakes and as someine who drives a a lot, that would be the least dangerous mistake I’d see on any day. Just learn from it.

Caught doing 87 on an A road - stupid - what will happen?
ClairDeLaLune · 31/05/2025 23:28

Clearly some people on this thread are shit at maths as well as being nasty individuals. 87 in a 70 is 17 over. 24%. Like 37 in a 30. Arguably less dangerous if the road was empty, and there wouldn’t be any pedestrians on it. There by the grace of God go very many people. Reckon you’ll get 6 points tops and a fine OP. Stop beating yourself up now!

ZoeCM · 31/05/2025 23:31

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 31/05/2025 20:57

I don't think you need to be this nasty.
A747 could have landed on the roof of her car, it didn't.
She could have won the lottery tonight, she didn't.
She'll pay the fine and get the point or do a course.

This is such an odd thing to say. If a 747 had landed on the roof of the OP's car, it wouldn't have been her fault. The OP actively chose to try to kill people.

If someone survives a stabbing, their attacker won't get away with telling the police, "Well, she survived, didn't she? You can't blame me for what COULD have happened! I could have won the lottery, but I didn't!"

moto748e · 31/05/2025 23:33

Only on page 7 of this thread, but it's worth remembering that cars can, and do, kill people at 30 mph, and dual carriageways are far and and away the safest roads to travel on. The OP will have to take her punishment, but I don't believe travelling at that speed on a dual-carriageway is more dangerous than someone doing 40 in a 30.

cakeorwine · 31/05/2025 23:34

ClairDeLaLune · 31/05/2025 23:28

Clearly some people on this thread are shit at maths as well as being nasty individuals. 87 in a 70 is 17 over. 24%. Like 37 in a 30. Arguably less dangerous if the road was empty, and there wouldn’t be any pedestrians on it. There by the grace of God go very many people. Reckon you’ll get 6 points tops and a fine OP. Stop beating yourself up now!

There is a difference though with 37 at 30 compared to 87 in a 70.

You can travel much further at 87 compared to doing 70 when you have to react, compared to 37 vs 30.

A car has more than 24% kinetic energy when doing 87 vs 70 compared to 37 vs 30

So even though people are talking about 24% difference, the physics of a potential crash is more than 24%.

Moveoverdarlin · 31/05/2025 23:34

InTheWindow · 31/05/2025 20:48

You’ve gone from never usually speeding to nearly 30mph over the limit to make a check in? Did you not think to just contact the owner/manager and explain you were running late? I live rurally and sometimes have to cross A roads on foot, and cycle/walk along them to join off road paths, my daughter is getting to an age that she’ll be doing so on her own too. My friend and her children live at a junction with one. Thank god we’ve never come across a driver as selfish as you. I hope you do lose your license.

17mph over the limit isn’t it? They allow 10 percent over (is that still the case?) So she’s going to get clobbered for that extra 10 mph.

ProfessionalWhimsicalSkidaddler · 31/05/2025 23:34

SRF2 · 31/05/2025 22:59

Interesting thread. You're 24% over the limit. That counts as a band B offence. It's also disheartening to see how many people on here struggle with basic maths and can't think clearly. Band B: Fine + 4–6 points or possible disqualification (7–28 days). 24% of all fatal collisions and 12% of all serious injury collisions are associated with excessive speed. It'll affect your insurance. But it won't stop you driving.

It only counts as a banded offence if it goes to court. To go to court, it would need to be more than 87. it’s at the forces discretion but the limits are fairly typical for all. I’ve posted a picture of these limits in an earlier comment. This will be a fine and points.

tripleginandtonic · 31/05/2025 23:34

It'll be 3 points and £100 fine

EconomyClassRockstar · 31/05/2025 23:39

Blimey, I haven't lived in the UK for almost 20 years so it's a bit worrying I understand UK traffic laws better than some of the posters on this thread. And can count better too. 😂

LoveItaly · 31/05/2025 23:43

TheNightingalesStarling · 31/05/2025 20:54

Its scary how many people (not just the OP) who don't know the NSL for different types of roads. Doesn't matter if its A or B or motorway... all dual carriageways are 70 unless a lower limit is posted...

OP... probably points and a fine. Its likely to fast for a speed awareness course.

The easy way to tell is if there is a central reservation. If there is it’s 70, if not maximum speed is 60.

Timetochillnow · 31/05/2025 23:43

CaptainFuture · 31/05/2025 20:53

Horrible? For not being aw bless poor you, for going 27 miles over the limit?!

No excuse but it was 17 over

Timetochillnow · 31/05/2025 23:44

Moveoverdarlin · 31/05/2025 23:34

17mph over the limit isn’t it? They allow 10 percent over (is that still the case?) So she’s going to get clobbered for that extra 10 mph.

All forces can vary as they fix their own tolerance

GuiltyPleasure · 01/06/2025 00:01

I drive that road every day and as you stated, you were on the 70mph dual carriageway section, so I know exactly where the fixed speed camera is located. Not excusing the speeding, but I can absolutely believe it would have been clear at that time of day, an hour later and it becomes a car park. Regardless of what posters think about it, factually you’re only 1mph over what NYP would offer a speed awareness course for, so just respond to the NIP and you’ll get 3 points and £100 fine and of course it will likely impact your future insurance premium as you have to declare it until it’s spent on your licence. They’ll only take you to court if you don’t respond or dispute it. Suggestions that you need a solicitor are ridiculous.

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