BREAKING NEWS- India has launched strikes on Pakistan

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More war 😪

Berk

That's just football. It's about winding up the opposition. It's different. Still bloody stupid, but different.

No, it's not the original point, but presumably you believe there's no class oppression or sexism under socialism? Nor racism, disableism, etc?

No need to answer, I'm not engaging in a derailment here. Just suggesting a wider perspective for your consideration.

Well, there wouldn't be a class structure, so the mechanisms that enable/effect inequality would be different.

Every society has class structure in some description

And India has a very strong one in the caste system. And religion feature highly in social status in both countries

Indian Sikhs, Muslims and Christians don’t subscribe to the caste system. Ie millions of Indians. The caste system is of less relevance in urban areas.

Very one dimensional and simplistic view

I don't know what relevance the caste system has to the subject of this thread🙄 Complete derailment.

Indian Sikhs, Muslims and Christians don’t subscribe to the caste system

Untrue. Caste is an indian disease and indian muslims, christians and sikhs actually do observe caste although they are not supposed to. Caste is far more complex than most assume and India has been running the world's largest affirmative action programme since independence to ameliorate the pernicious effects of caste discrimination.

Yeah it is a derailment, sorry.

Well, there wouldn't be a class structure, so the mechanisms that enable/effect inequality would be different.

The naivete of some posters is hilarious. They sound like they believe that the working class were really the ruling class in communist paradises.

The caste system was set up by the British

Bullshite. Hindu scriptures (manusmiriti) refer to it and there is some genetic evidence for it. These are long term patterns.
https://bmcgenomdata.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2156-9-86#:~:text=Conclusion.%20Genetic%20data%20from%20Y%2Dchromosome%2C%20mtDNA%2C%20and,caste%20populations%20from%20two%20different%20geographic%20regions.

The caste system.was not set up by the British, but we dont have to combat Islamic terrorism by discussing everything BUT Islamic terrorism.

BBC breakfast were annoying me this morning with the excessive use of the phrase "nuclear nations*, it's not fair to terrify people like that and I have a mum who is a bit vulnerable and she really gets hung up on things about nuclear wars!
Nobody would win anything by dropping a nuke and I'm sure they know that! It wouldn't be like nuking a country thousands of miles away, dropping a nuke that close would effectively be like nuking themselves.

My DP and I are due to head to Sri Lanka next Jan and I'm starting to wonder if there'll be any safe airspace left open to get there as it's getting tricky heading east with so many places being in conflict!

Research shows that hard boundaries were set by British colonial rulers. The scriptures are just about division of labour.

Well we seem to have hit a new low of batshittery, simply wrong, self hate of the West conspiracy theories.

It's actually so factually deluded that it is not even worth critiquing.

I am on another thread where a poster is arguing that India and Pakistan are the same as each other. This after Pakistan has consistently been shown to harbour terrorists. The pp who made the point about the way the left now condones- nay welcomes!- Islamic terrorism is spot on. It's coming to the UK now.

Agree and with @Lentilweaver

Why are you making these statements! You don't speak for every British person or have right toske claims about what we all think or feel.

It's not a case of British people don't care about genocide, have you spoke to every citizen in the UK and asked?
Personally I've been genocide museums in places like Cape Town, Sarajevo, Auschwitz & Birkenhau - what genocide museums have you been to?
Personally I think British people are getting wary of getting involved in anything because as it is there too many people including some Brits even on this thread that think we should permanently beg forgiveness or constantly be dragged into war because of things that happened hundreds of years before we were born! We get sick of being told that we should feel guilty just for being born in this country! Well guess what, I'm from the same city as William Wilberforce!

People are rightfully wary of getting involved and being opinionated of things going on between other countries because we end up with reprisals! I don't ever want to see something like the Manchester Arena bombing happen again!

Avoid the distractions and derailments.
It"s pretty simple: Islamic terrorism is a menace. And the Manchester arena bombing will certainly happen again if we bothsides India and Pakistan.

Hindutva is also a menace but a far lesser one, especially for the UK. MI5 is not devoting 75% of its resources to Hindutva terrorism.

We should be able to speak against Islamic terrorism without being accused of being bigots. Because Muslims and Islamic terrorists are not the same. Juat like Sikhs and Khalistani terrorists are not the same.

What do you mean apparent!!!! How much proof do you need, thank God some of the rapists have been caught and jailed.

Please stop blaming an entire population for the evils of a few individuals. Unfortunately rape happens on a daily basis around the globe. As far as I’m concerted rapists should be castrated, but it’s never ok to kill innocent people which include children and women, over the actions of a few. They do not represent an entire country. I use the word ‘apparent’ because the poster was implying that the whole of Pakistan was involved in the raping of young white girls and thus the whole country should be ‘Palestined’.

I see Pakistan is moving (some) heavy armour into the region.

I’ve also been learning that the Pakistani Chief of Staff is an Islamic fanatic. Senior military figures are the real power in that country. It’s never really been a civil society.

My guess is that the posturing by Pakistan will go no further: they’re completely outgunned and they know it. But I think we can expect more mischief towards India, and probably other countries too.

Thanks for making that clear. Not all the rapists were Pakistani some whites were involved, agree castrate them.