Well I've just lost my daughter due to the Supreme Court ruling. s

[Lucelady]

So as not to drip feed she's a Ftm trans person and a universty student.
I've just been called a TERF, JKR supporter and transphobic. We've had four years of peace and understanding with her not wanting any surgery or hormones. She listened to the ruling last week and we chatted it through. The last few days she's been glued to the Internet and her phone. Now it's all changed and her 'friends' have called for action. What that action is I've no idea.
She's stormed out.

It's not the same. People would say you could become a doctor with training. Noone is going to say you weren't born as a doctor so never will be whatever you do.

“My truth” is that I was born to be a doctor. Unfortunately I was born in the wrong body, in the wrong family, and I just know how to do it so I should allowed or you’re discriminating against my true self. Surely I just need to live as a doctor for two years so I can get the certificate, because that will make me a real doctor. Now drop your kecks and let me do your internal, please.

My daughter is a scientist of sorts so that's why I don't get the buy in. However up to the ruling we had seen four years of calm and physical changes in dress and behaviour.

You could become a doctor after fours of training though depending on other qualifications. No surgery or hormones required either.

No my older DD managed to come through the uni system thinking the whole trans fandango was navel gazing, attention seeking entitlement. However she was apparently in the minority.

So not everyone at university is in the "cult" or sympathetic towards it but the majority are?

Regarding cults and cult-like belief systems, I think it has been well established that intelligent people are more likely to fall prey to them. Although it is hard when you’re trying to talk to someone about it and they cannot explain or give any evidence or logical argument for why they think it, and you’re thinking “but you’re so smart, why can’t you see this makes no sense?” But they don’t work that way.

Again, not the same. Noone is going to say you are not disabled if not born disabled. Most disabled adults are not born disabled.

The cult-like element is up to now nobody has been allowed to query the trans orthodoxy without the threat of cancellation. It’s what made For Women Scotland so brave to challenge it. The facts are chromosomes don’t change. However, you are not really allowed to say that in a so-called place of learning. Or even in a workplace. So many people have been afraid to say anything.

This was the case for my 2 DDs.
One came through uni with deep suspicion of the trans movement, the other bought into it completely. The one with the terfy views learned pretty quickly at uni to shut up about what she thought though, as the slightest questioning of trans ideology had someone branded as a transphobe, bigot and fascist. She was studying Psychology.

Younger DD who now identifies, as non binary ironically studied Biology/Zoology.

It's not the same thing as choosing your age at all. People might not have CP later in life but they can become disabled for other reasons later in life and while most people would never choose to be disabled they certainly could make themselves genuinely disabled if they really wanted to.

@Naepalz interestingly psychology now covers trans gender trends.
I bet that's a tough one to teach or participate in the module.

There are different Paralympic categories for different disabilities. If you identify as a category you don’t have that is cheating.

Can I suggest the condition being discussed could be triggering for some. We have disabled members of our family and I find it upsetting.
Thanks.

Apologies OP, that wasn’t my intention and I’ve asked for my posts to be deleted.

But I was born in the wrong body and I identify as a doctor. Please respect my truth and call me doctor in all further communication. No surgery or hormones required to become the opposite gender, either, just "feels".

If you had demanded Ozempic or you'd kill yourself, would you agree your family should have accepted your needs and supported you?

I think there was some of this on the curriculum but it was actually Forensic Psychology the DD studied.
She then worked for a couple of years within adolescent mental health where the mantra was never to question gender identity. It became too much for her and she's now become a civil servant.
Her observations were that the most severely mentally disturbed young girls become trans identifying as a result of ASDs and or sexual abuse, often within their family.
It's tragic.

Well established where, how and by whom

Your mum sounds like a very wise woman. I take it you're not ND? As I'm sure many parents of ND children will attest, ignoring or not responding is just not an option, because they don't move on.

@usernamealreadytaken that's a interesting fact.
My DD was tested for ASD twice as we have a high number of ND within her cousins and my older brother. She isn't and let's say she can test herself now due to her field of study. She is disabled and has a communication difficulty which she has asked me not to disclose on SM so I won't.