Well I've just lost my daughter due to the Supreme Court ruling. s

[Lucelady]

So as not to drip feed she's a Ftm trans person and a universty student.
I've just been called a TERF, JKR supporter and transphobic. We've had four years of peace and understanding with her not wanting any surgery or hormones. She listened to the ruling last week and we chatted it through. The last few days she's been glued to the Internet and her phone. Now it's all changed and her 'friends' have called for action. What that action is I've no idea.
She's stormed out.

I share a hell of a lot of DNA with a bonobo but like to think I am significantly differentiated as a human not to be mistaken for one…

So you don't share any instincts with them? Food drive, sex drive, etc

I am sorry but you have a transgender son yet you still refer to them as she & your daughter? Or you have a transgender daughter?.

Yes this is an example of how it isn't possible to have clear language when someone says they are something they're not. It's not OPs fault as she knows her daughter is her daughter.
Look at Eddy Izard for another case where language doesn't make sense - he has 'girl' days!
The OP is talking about her daughter and her daughter says she identifies as trans (so believes in the theory of gender).

This poster has a child with ADHD. She is entitled to say she feels blessed to not have to deal with childhood gender issues the same way as a parent with a child with gender issues feels blessed not having to deal with ADHD.

There are replies which often say more about the poster & their interpretation of well meaning posts. Perhaps they should think about why they are so quick to react in a way which often comes across as bitter rather than helpful or productive.

So is your daughter a biological woman who dresses as a man and has a boyfriend? I am
lost with all this, and at a loss to know how the country has got into this state.

The SC hasn’t taken away trans rights and stressed that everyone’s lifestyle should be respected. It’s simply clarified that sex means biological sex and biological men can’t go in biological women’s spaces. It’s common sense.
I fail to understand what all the fuss is about and why everyone is protesting. 30,000,000 women whose rights have been violated these last few years didn’t resort to violence and threats, they went through the courts and common sense triumphed.

Sounds like your daughter’s both got real problems and been indoctrinated to boot. Awful situation. Good luck for the future.

Why should OP lie about her own reality? She had a female child, a daughter, that's her truth, based on the actual reality and facts, and it doesn't change whatever her DD may say or believe. Humans can't change sex. Transgender people (if that's what her DD is) may wish they were the opposite sex, or find some (sexist IMO) way to "live as" the opposite sex via gender stereotypes, or even genuinely believe they have changed sex, but that's their business. There is no reason why anyone else should be expected or made to lie.

If and when someone will explain exactly, clearly and rationally how anyone "really is" the opposite sex from what they are, we're listening. But no one ever does, because this whole concept is not based in reality, evidence or logic. As such, it's a faith-based, supernatural belief system, which is fine, there are many of those - but other people don't have to join in.

The OP said at the start her DD has said she is a woman, has a boyfriend and wants children. She uses a male name with friends and wears some male clothes. As most student clothing is jeans and tops it’s hard to know how anyone could tell it was more male than any other clothing! In the old days she would just be a bit of a Tom boy. She was born female and so that’s what she is. Why so keen to attack a mum who’s trying her best to support her child?

This is rubbish and it’s transphobic as well.

On a basic human level, I would expect someone that has aggressively and offensively name called me (or indeed anyone) shouted and screamed and flounced to have the decency to apologise.

i would expect it from a 7 year old (or rather I’d probably be explaining the need for her to do so), a 17 year old and a 47 year old!

You learn to pick your battles when the world is telling you that they may commit suicide or go no contact …

Not quite the same thing as getting your 7 year old to apologise for having a tantrum over CBeebies, is it?

I do expect her to apologise at some point.
Her brother is a bit fiery too but I think both being at home has had its challenges.
She's calm and eating so we've turned over the TV if it's just labouring the same points. We'll let the politicians be the baddies.

Does her father not tell her how unacceptable it is to speak to her mother, his wife, like this?

This has been a pattern for ten years op

she will think that it’s ok to operate like this in relationships

and maybe even with her own children

it is her behaviour of be most concerned about and approach to disagreements

No I am talking about the person who has aggressively screamed and shouted offensively to another human being would actually want to apologise because they feel sorry

@Curioushoney her father does tell her off.

at the time or when she returns? And she still doesn’t apologise?

op the issue itself goes whoosh over my head

all I’m concerned about is her actual behaviour. Screaming aggressive names at her mother? What kind of person will this be as a lover, a partner, a mother? Unless you and your husband guide her. This has been a pattern for 10 years, it will be practically embedded in her make up

Both my DC have had a difficult start to the year. I became very ill and was given a serious diagnosis and urgent surgery. Luckily the diagnosis was wrong and I appear to be recovering. We've all been super stressed.
My DDs brother is a much stronger character than her and they don't always get on. She's been fighting back over the last year and a half (he moved back home for a bit). As both her father and brother have never been included in any trans discussions I get the brunt of it.
Shes very clever so I have never understood how she got dragged into this movement.

Hopefully a peaceful day.

Oh I thought it had been a pattern for ten years hence raising it

Why would being clever mean she isn't trans. Given people on this thread seem to think people are becoming trans at universities it seems the other way around.

"My truth" is that I'm a doctor. I've spent many years watching Casualty and ER, and often reach a diagnosis before the doctor does. Can I please practise on you because I really truly believe that I can be a doctor. If you don't let me, I'll unalive myself because you're selfish and won't call me doctor and let me be a doctor.

I think OP means she thought her daughter wouldn't fall prey to a cult.

Which was optimistic given all this has been going on for the last ten years

So everyone at university is either in a "cult" or sympathetic towards those who are?