Well I've just lost my daughter due to the Supreme Court ruling. s

[Lucelady]

So as not to drip feed she's a Ftm trans person and a universty student.
I've just been called a TERF, JKR supporter and transphobic. We've had four years of peace and understanding with her not wanting any surgery or hormones. She listened to the ruling last week and we chatted it through. The last few days she's been glued to the Internet and her phone. Now it's all changed and her 'friends' have called for action. What that action is I've no idea.
She's stormed out.

No it hasn’t - the ruling has given women the confidence to assert their existing rights to single sex spaces and sports free of the male sex. Transgender people have the same legal rights as they’ve always had - they still cannot be discriminated against in the work place, in the courts, when applying for loans or buying a property, when buying goods and services. Ie they observe the same rights as every other person in the UK. They just cannot use the ladies bathrooms/changing rooms, or women's rape and DV facilities, or enter female sex categories in sports.

And no, they are not more likely to be murdered (350 are killed GLOBALLY every year, compared to @ 55k women who are murdered by their partners alone. Jeez more people are trampled by rhinos than are killed for being trans); nor are they more likely to be physically or sexually attacked. The ONS figures for the UK show this is a total fallacy.

So pack it in. They’ll be fine.

They just need to campaign for 3rd spaces, which most of us here will whole-heartedly support.

You’d never ever enquired about whether he was interested in anyone? He’d never expressed attraction for anyone?

Did she just walk in and not mention another word about it and instead started talking dough balls?

was there any reference at all to her storming out and I got hit with a torrent of abuse and half truths about things she believes I've done or said.?

If it’s anything like the incidents with my DD, there will have been no reference whatsoever. Just a little lack of eye contact, a slight awkwardness for a few minutes until she is sure you aren’t going to ask her about it… then it drops away as though it never happened.

Rinse and repeat

This is about MALE vs FEMALE. It never had anything to do with 'trans'. That's what you don't get. Womens rights is no more 'anti trans' than it is anti male. Unless you are admitting to us that you know that to be pro trans = anti women then, that's what you're saying.

You would have been one of the women during the suffragette era hatefully admonishing and scolding the suffragettes for being 'anti men' and mean to men.

The you.gov link below doesn't suggest that the overwhelming majority of people are GC. e.g e.g. only 34% of those surveyed said people should not be able to identify as being of a different gender to the one they had recorded at birth.

This is all about common sense vs social media addiction more than anything else

Not a word.
My husband turned the news off today as he felt it would upset her.

She's eating jam sandwiches.

@pookie999 All the hate is coming from trans activists who this past shameful week of trans behaviour, showed exactly what violent and malignant thugs they are. Saying bring back witchburning, the only good 'terf' (feminist) is a dead one, urinating on monuments of past feminists from over a hundred years ago that had absolutely nothing to do with this 'terf' thing today, and writing 'fag' on the monument. It's strange then that feminists have NEVER staged rallies with violent, vicious hateful signs calling for violence. Only one group does that. Which group is that? Go on? Admit it. The trans activists. This court decision brought out the real misogyny that lay underneath the skin. They showed how violent, dangerous, and hateful and malignant they are. And you still think the women are to blame? The trans activists SHOWED us who they were, and what truly lay beneath their skin and agenda last weekend.

Do me a favour. Go look for rallies or signs that had any signs like these. THEN come back and tell me it's us 'terfs' that are the hateful ones. Go find me one (1) example of a feminist/terf waving placards like these. You won't. Then you can apologise to us.

If you had been shouted at and were crying you might have been a bit emotional too.
Any reason for the accusation of lying?

Sounds like ye are trying not to tread on eggshells around her and she rules the house with her moods when she is there

hence this going on for a decade

@Littlebrick you seem to be challenging on every thread you've been on today.
Are you new to mumsnet or hiding a long standing post history that is unacceptable to most people?

Littlebrick has no history other than today!

My original post was to ask for help not ask whether AIBU.

That’s kids for you, whatever the age. One day something is a big issue, next it’s all forgotten. She feels safe at home with you.

@FlakyCritic well said - but also in addition to the misogyny is the homophobia expressed in the ‘FAG’ graffiti.

One of the things I became attuned to once my child started her journey and it became clear she was same-sex attracted but emotionally and socially too immature to know what to do with her feelings after a brutal lockdown, was the vile level of lesbophobia that is around. Women’s sexuality where it expresses itself as lesbian attraction has been absorbed into hetero male fantasy and appropriated by the sex/porn industry for the titillation of men and boys. Lesbian women are entitled to no respect or privacy. Is it any wonder that lesbian and bi women and girls - especially the intelligent, sensitive and often ND ones - try to excuse themselves from the male gaze, from male control, by rejecting their womanhood and declaring themselves non-binary or even male-gendered?

Because of animals like those out protesting this weekend. Hardly LBG Allies are they?

You havent lost her due to the Supreme Court ruling but your attitude towards yourchild needs work

How so?
The OP has been bending over backwards to facilitate to give her DD comfort.
It must be an awful position and hopefully will pass soon, but the OP has done her best to put her DD feelings first (even above reality) so her DD has time to mature and learn to appreciate who she is.

@THEDEACON ive always put my children first.

I defended my dd and her friends to the hilt often at great personal cost.

I don't have an 'attitude' towards her just love.

Yes this is par for the course. Not surprised at all

Yet we still share a hell of a lot of DNA with them. I am no genetic scientist but for anyone to deny the possibility of an instinct is very crass.