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[Lucelady]

So as not to drip feed she's a Ftm trans person and a universty student.
I've just been called a TERF, JKR supporter and transphobic. We've had four years of peace and understanding with her not wanting any surgery or hormones. She listened to the ruling last week and we chatted it through. The last few days she's been glued to the Internet and her phone. Now it's all changed and her 'friends' have called for action. What that action is I've no idea.
She's stormed out.

It sounds like there is a lot of free thinking. Unless you think screeching MEN ARE MEN WOMEN ARE WOMEN is free thinking? It sounds like there's much more advanced and nuanced free thinking happening at universities than in your narrow minds.

I said it was part of a wider discussion. I've never said they contacted me specifically re names. Please quote this if that's what I posted not make this argument up with no basis.

Indeed. Parenting is about being the adult in the room when your child is unable to be one. It’s about helping them navigate the world with true knowledge and trying to ensure that they don’t harm themselves irrevocably or put their lives at risk. Humouring my child would have done this, they would not be in tact, whole and heading to university now when a friend’s child is back in a psychiatric unit after having had a mastectomy last year and taking x-sex hormones for 18m.

As a family we protected our child because that is what you do. I refused to be dictated in my own home what I could talk about, what my beliefs could be, which bloody photos I was allowed to hand on my walls, but I did tread carefully around my DD. I didn’t raise the topic unless she did, and I was respectful in how I referenced her position on it, I listened/read the sources she cited and explained why the sources I references were higher quality. And I kept reiterating that I loved her and, ultimately, would always be there for her if - as an adult - she did something I personally did not agree with.

So two of the last posts are name-calling and troll-hunting.
Excellent example of the free-thinking, honest, and rigorous debate we are told to have!

It's laughable, what people will latch on to in order to never examine their own views.

The number of teachers and professors who have questioned me over her status is testement to this.

’Questioned me over her status’ does not mean ‘contacted me specifically re names’. That’s not the gotcha you were aiming for.

No, you're not, I found their lack of any empathy for females chilling. As chilling as their need to throw in suicide as a weapon to get what they want (very common male trait) and then said they 'forgive' us! Who the heck do they think they are? Violating our spaces, then 'forgiving' us for understandably being upset! That is narcissistic male entitlement. There is no understanding from them that they are the one in the wrong here, not us. They are the invader and violator and trespasser. How dare they suggest we have done anything that needs 'forgiving'. Chilling narcissistic male entitlement. Their posts demonstrate the very reason these males are dangerous and need to be kept out of our spaces. Their posts only solidify my determination to fight harder to get every male out of ever female only space.

Well no actually

I have joined late to the party

im curious though…. How much involvement do you have with her uni professors op that they regular have asked about her status?!

because in 3 years i have had zero with my son’s. And too right…. It is university!

I have two adult children, you don’t stop being a parent once they reach adulthood. Your job is to prepare them for life from when they are small.

I have no interest in being in charge of my children’s lives, but they do not get to tell me what to think about anything, and they certainly don’t get to throw abuse at me because I think differently to them. Luckily that is not a situation I find myself in.

You don't get to tell them what to think either though if they are adults.

Free thinking must never override facts.

The Earth is round.
Water freezes at a specific temperature.
Humans are Binary - there are only 2 sees.
Humans cannot change their Sex.
Santa Clause isn't real.

Etc etc.

It takes a narrow mind to call someone a 'bigot' merely for stating basic biological facts and that women and girls deserve our hard won rights.

Why have you had such extensive dealings with your daughter’s professors Op?

And your use of the word "screeching" is interesting DeskJotter.

Classic male derision of females. You'll be asking us if we're having our "time of the month" next!
🙄

Your DS clearly doesn’t have disabilities or DSA allocation and support then - so you have no idea what student support students with those diagnoses require, do you? And yes, amongst the parents I know with students with health issues, dyslexia, MH, and NDs requiring support … yep, they liaise with the uni on a very regular basis. Just because you haven’t needed to doesn’t mean it isn’t pretty much the norm for many.

I’m not asking or indeed remotely interested in you and your situation

I asked the Op

I’m not sure why you don’t just nod and smile? She’s 21 not 12.
They still think they know everything and that will continue for years yet.
0 point in arguing. Just nod and smile and be non commital and talk about something else

Exactly

Agree and why is she expecting OP to pay for her surgery. She's a grown woman. I had left home and working full time four years by the time I was 21.

OP, look at her as a whole. Is she a bit infantile generally because if so, see this as a juvenile strop only and stop worrying so much.

And OP has stated twice now - her child has disabilities and this means they have arranged that OP has permission to speak to the uni. This is normal for parents like her and me. Read the f+cking thread rather than being obnoxious.

Thank you
so now I know re the op

no need to tell me your story!

If only there was some way of finding out what OP had said on a thread!

Whether or not it makes sense or not is another matter entirely

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